Hamas attacks Israel

Ron in Regina

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Where is your bomb shelter?
The Canadian gov’t isn’t invading the USA (the ONLY country we’re physically connected to) to slaughter many on a holiday and then abducting hundreds of Americans back into Canada to hold as hostages (sorry, Americaustages) forcing them to invade Canada to try to retrieve their people scattered under urban populations in an asymmetric warfare situation, etc…or hadn’t the last I heard?

Should I be building a bomb shelter? It’s been a pretty busy weekend so I’m kind of out of the loop. Do you have your bomb shelter started to get ahead of the curve? Got any tips or guidance on constructing one?
Mine's next door.

A neighbour I don't really like much and I were talking about "preparedness." He asked me how I was "prepared." I said "I've got guns." He said "That's a good start, but ya need an underground hardened shelter and water and dried food and blah blah blah blah."
We have a family acreage 10 miles south and 3 miles east of our city, & a brother who had being collecting eclectic firearms and ammunition for a couple of decades.
I asked "Do you have all those things?" He said "Sure do." I said "Great! Three minutes after the balloon goes up, I'll have all those things."
We been told that if shit hits the fan, load up your pantries into your vehicles & and get out there.
Our relationship got a good bit more distant after that.
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The Canadian gov’t isn’t invading the USA (the ONLY country we’re physically connected to) to slaughter many on a holiday and then abducting hundreds of Americans back into Canada to hold as hostages (sorry, Americaustages) forcing them to invade Canada to try to retrieve their people scattered under urban populations in an asymmetric warfare situation, etc…or hadn’t the last I heard?

Should I be building a bomb shelter? It’s been a pretty busy weekend so I’m kind of out of the loop. Do you have your bomb shelter started to get ahead of the curve? Got any tips or guidance on constructing one?

We have a family acreage 10 miles south and 3 miles east of our city, & a brother who had being collecting eclectic firearms and ammunition for a couple of decades.

We been told that if shit hits the fan, load up your pantries into your vehicles & and get out there.

🤔
That's no excuse. Where is your bomb shelter?
 

Ron in Regina

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That's no excuse. Where is your bomb shelter?
Et tu Brute? After you Alphonse.
Should I be building a bomb shelter? It’s been a pretty busy weekend so I’m kind of out of the loop. Do you have your bomb shelter started to get ahead of the curve? Got any tips or guidance on constructing one?
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But…but UNRWA funding?
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Ron in Regina

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Hamas and other Gazan militants took around 250 people hostage in their Oct. 7, 2023, attacks on Israel that left 1,200 people dead and sparked the current war in Gaza. Both David and Braslavski were taken captive from the Nova music festival, where hundreds were killed by Palestinian militants in one of the deadliest scenes of the attacks. Israeli officials believe that about 20 male hostages are still alive and that an additional 30 bodies are being held by militant groups…
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Following a meeting between Netanyahu and U.S. Middle East envoy Steve Witkoff on Thursday, Israeli officials said they are now considering negotiating a single comprehensive deal to end the war in Gaza, disarm Hamas, demilitarize Gaza and free all hostages, according to an Israeli official. This would represent a turnaround from Israel’s previous negotiating stance that insisted on only temporary deals because it wasn’t ready to end the war.
Hamas on Saturday said that it would reject Israel’s demand to disarm until the establishment of a Palestinian state.

“We will never relinquish this right until all our national rights are restored, foremost among them the establishment of an independent, fully sovereign Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital,” the group said…’cuz…???
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…& how does HAMAS define “Israeli Occupation”??? From the River Jordan to the Mediterranean Sea??? Are Hamas & Friends (& Palestinians?) in favour of a Two State Solution? This time for sure? Pinky swear

1919: Arabs of Palestine refused nominate representatives to the Paris Peace Conference.
1920: San Remo conference decisions, rejected.
1922: League of Nations decisions, rejected.
1937: Peel Commission partition proposal, rejected.
1938: Woodhead partition proposal, rejected
1947: UN General Assembly partition proposal (UNGAR 181), rejected.
1949: Israel’s outstretched hand for peace (UNGAR 194), rejected.
1967: Israel’s outstretched hand for peace (UNSCR 242), rejected.
1978: Begin/Sa’adat peace proposal, rejected (except for Egypt).
1994: Rabin/Hussein peace agreement, rejected by the rest of the Arab League (except for Egypt).
1995: Rabin’s Contour-for-Peace, rejected.
2000: Barak/Clinton peace offer, rejected. 2001: Barak’s offer at Taba, rejected.
2005: Sharon’s peace gesture, withdrawal from Gaza, rejected.
2008: Olmert/Bush peace offer, rejected. 2009 to 2021: Netanyahu’s repeated invitations to peace talks, rejected.
2014: Kerry’s Contour-for-Peace, rejected.
2025:? For sure this time! Honest!
 

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Hamas and other Gazan militants took around 250 people hostage in their Oct. 7, 2023, attacks on Israel that left 1,200 people dead and sparked the current war in Gaza. Both David and Braslavski were taken captive from the Nova music festival, where hundreds were killed by Palestinian militants in one of the deadliest scenes of the attacks. Israeli officials believe that about 20 male hostages are still alive and that an additional 30 bodies are being held by militant groups…
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Following a meeting between Netanyahu and U.S. Middle East envoy Steve Witkoff on Thursday, Israeli officials said they are now considering negotiating a single comprehensive deal to end the war in Gaza, disarm Hamas, demilitarize Gaza and free all hostages, according to an Israeli official. This would represent a turnaround from Israel’s previous negotiating stance that insisted on only temporary deals because it wasn’t ready to end the war.
Hamas on Saturday said that it would reject Israel’s demand to disarm until the establishment of a Palestinian state.

“We will never relinquish this right until all our national rights are restored, foremost among them the establishment of an independent, fully sovereign Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital,” the group said…’cuz…???
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…& how does HAMAS define “Israeli Occupation”??? From the River Jordan to the Mediterranean Sea??? Are Hamas & Friends (& Palestinians?) in favour of a Two State Solution? This time for sure? Pinky swear

1919: Arabs of Palestine refused nominate representatives to the Paris Peace Conference.
1920: San Remo conference decisions, rejected.
1922: League of Nations decisions, rejected.
1937: Peel Commission partition proposal, rejected.
1938: Woodhead partition proposal, rejected
1947: UN General Assembly partition proposal (UNGAR 181), rejected.
1949: Israel’s outstretched hand for peace (UNGAR 194), rejected.
1967: Israel’s outstretched hand for peace (UNSCR 242), rejected.
1978: Begin/Sa’adat peace proposal, rejected (except for Egypt).
1994: Rabin/Hussein peace agreement, rejected by the rest of the Arab League (except for Egypt).
1995: Rabin’s Contour-for-Peace, rejected.
2000: Barak/Clinton peace offer, rejected. 2001: Barak’s offer at Taba, rejected.
2005: Sharon’s peace gesture, withdrawal from Gaza, rejected.
2008: Olmert/Bush peace offer, rejected. 2009 to 2021: Netanyahu’s repeated invitations to peace talks, rejected.
2014: Kerry’s Contour-for-Peace, rejected.
2025:? For sure this time! Honest!
My bomb shelter is where yours is. In the wide open to be human shields.

Since 1967 ALL refusals lead straight to Israel refusing to end the occupation. Prior to 1967 was trying to deal with Jewish terrorists who eventually formed the Knesset. That's fact. A list is cute but without details you're chunking shit at the wall to see sticks.
 

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Since 1967 ALL refusals lead straight to Israel refusing to end the occupation.
What about before 1967? At least previous to the first 1/2 of 1967 anyway? Was it all sunshine & roses at that point (?) or that excuse wasn’t plausible yet, and that’s why the PLO was formed…in 1964?
Prior to 1967 was trying to deal with Jewish terrorists who eventually formed the Knesset. That's fact.
All & always Jewish (not Zionist?) terrorists all the time? Not two sides in that goat rodeo yet until 1967? Or into the second 1/2 of 1967 anyway?

What’s significant about 1967 there anyway? Want me to speculate by throwing some faecal matter at the wall to see what sticks? Does it have something to do with the Armistice (=Green) line of 1949?
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The "Green Line" of 1949 refers to the armistice demarcation lines established after the 1948 Arab-Israeli War. These lines, drawn in green ink on maps, separated Israeli-controlled territory from neighboring Arab nations (Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria, but not Palestine?). The Green Line served as the de facto border until the Six-Day War in 1967 so I mean before Jordan annexed that area that they then renamed the West Bank from Judea & Samaria, and Egypt hadn’t rolled across Gaza & then just sorta “camped out” there for the next two decades or so.

So…how did that Palestinian state work out since those Green lines where drawn in 1949? I mean before Israel disrupted the Jordanian annexing of Judea & Samaria the West Bank, etc…? Or Egypt with Gaza, etc…?
A list is cute but without details you're chunking shit at the wall to see stick
Well, both of our Googles aren’t broken. Pick a line…copy&paste like so:
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Click a link…or not. Your call.
 

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What about before 1967? At least previous to the first 1/2 of 1967 anyway? Was it all sunshine & roses at that point (?) or that excuse wasn’t plausible yet, and that’s why the PLO was formed…in 1964?

All & always Jewish (not Zionist?) terrorists all the time? Not two sides in that goat rodeo yet until 1967? Or into the second 1/2 of 1967 anyway?

What’s significant about 1967 there anyway? Want me to speculate by throwing some faecal matter at the wall to see what sticks? Does it have something to do with the Armistice (=Green) line of 1949?
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The "Green Line" of 1949 refers to the armistice demarcation lines established after the 1948 Arab-Israeli War. These lines, drawn in green ink on maps, separated Israeli-controlled territory from neighboring Arab nations (Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria, but not Palestine?). The Green Line served as the de facto border until the Six-Day War in 1967 so I mean before Jordan annexed that area that they then renamed the West Bank from Judea & Samaria, and Egypt hadn’t rolled across Gaza & then just sorta “camped out” there for the next two decades or so.

So…how did that Palestinian state work out since those Green lines where drawn in 1949? I mean before Israel disrupted the Jordanian annexing of Judea & Samaria the West Bank, etc…? Or Egypt with Gaza, etc…?

Well, both of our Googles aren’t broken. Pick a line…copy&paste like so:
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Click a link…or not. Your call.
Yes, terrorists. There is plenty of books about it.

So, when is the illegal occupation going to end?
 

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Yes, terrorists. There is plenty of books about it.

So, when is the illegal occupation going to end?
At the tactical level, Jewish terrorists were able to erode the ability of British security forces to control Palestine. Strategically, that persuaded Britain to withdraw from Palestine, which, in turn, created the conditions that facilitated both the founding of Israel and the creation of an Arab-Palestinian diaspora.
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Articles Jewish Terrorism and the Modern Middle East



 

petros

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Yeah, nobody could’ve seen that coming way back on Oct 6th, 2023.
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All hostages could have been released Oct 8 but.....opportunity.

Who was ultimately responsible in the Israeli govt for the intelligence failure and non-reaction to stopping it?

Convicted terrorist Shitmar Ben-Givr the Security/Intelligence Minister.


Who has the ability to yank Netanyahu from power and toss him in prison for grifting?

Shitmar Gen-Givr and Baelzebub Smotrich.

What do they have in their pocket that controls Trump who BTW openly states the starvation is real stuff.
 

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All hostages could have been released Oct 8 but.....opportunity.
All holocaustages could’ve not been taken as hostages Oct 7th, but then Israel might not have had to follow Hamas and Friends back into Gaza. A little from column A, a little from column B, two sides & narratives at least, etc…

Hamas had to do something so heinous as to get the reaction they were looking for, & the holocaustages where the cherry on top for insurance to get that reaction. Thankfully in that plan, for Hamas, Palestinians are not only disposable, but the more that could be put between themselves and Israel’s reaction, the better it was for the Hamas propaganda, to this day. Does that stick to the wall or just slide to the floor?

Dare I ask why Hamas (& Friends) didn’t release those hostages on October 8th, after making the effort to abduct them all on the 7th?
 

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All holocaustages could’ve not been taken as hostages Oct 7th, but then Israel might not have had to follow Hamas and Friends back into Gaza. A little from column A, a little from column B, two sides & narratives at least, etc…

Hamas had to do something so heinous as to get the reaction they were looking for, & the holocaustages where the cherry on top for insurance to get that reaction. Thankfully in that plan, for Hamas, Palestinians are not only disposable, but the more that could be put between themselves and Israel’s reaction, the better it was for the Hamas propaganda, to this day. Does that stick to the wall or just slide to the floor?

Dare I ask why Hamas (& Friends) didn’t release those hostages on October 8th, after making the effort to abduct them all on the 7th?
The terrorist Security Minister Itmar Ben-Givr let it happen.

Hamas was ready to let everyone go if Israel didn't invade.


What a golden opportunity for terrorists Ben-Gvir and Smotrich who put Netanyahu in power.

Israel was on the brink of Civil War...don't forget that.

Oopsies still is.

 
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Hamas was ready to let everyone go if Israel didn't invade.
Really? Did Israel invade/retaliate on Oct 8th like Hamas (& Friends) invaded Oct 7th?
Hamas was ready to let everyone go if Israel didn't invade.
All hostages could have been released Oct 8 but.....opportunity.
…if Israel didn't invade.
(On the evening of 27 October 2023, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) launched a large-scale invasion inside the Gaza Strip, as part of the Gaza war, with the stated goal of destroying Hamas and overthrowing the organization's governance of the Gaza Strip)

Anyway…
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(YouTube & A reward for terror as Starker u-turns)
 

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Really? Did Israel invade/retaliate on Oct 8th like Hamas (& Friends) invaded Oct 7th?



(On the evening of 27 October 2023, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) launched a large-scale invasion inside the Gaza Strip, as part of the Gaza war, with the stated goal of destroying Hamas and overthrowing the organization's governance of the Gaza Strip)

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(YouTube & A reward for terror as Starker u-turns)
So the truth then? They didn't invade to rescue hostages. So they had 20 days to save the hostages, avoid billions on war, keep their reputation.

It's true what Ben-Givr said about the hostages then? They are his convenient pawns.



Israel was formed out of terrorism and occupation. Why reward them with a genocide and someone else's land.

How many little girls are in Hamas?

What would Hamas do if Israel had/has a civil war?