That sounds like a bastardized line from “Cotton-Eye’d Joe”….
Being a dog ain’t that bad, depending on the circumstances…
Hamas attacks Israel
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I've heard people say "It's so easy to make a dog happy." Yep. And that's a good thing.
For the dog.
They are all dreaming of having thumbs.
Will have to come back to vids later. Curious about the Rogan vid.
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Canada’s decision to recognize Palestinian statehood rewards terrorism. Regardless of how evil someone thinks da’Jews are, or that Zionists are bad but Palestinian nationalists are good, or whatever…Bibi is wrong about many things, but he is right about that.
October 7th, 2023 is real, as is the reaction to it and the holocaustages (some potentially even still alive) that haven’t been released are also real.
Palestinian advocates have argued for years that the major Western powers should grant recognition to a sovereign Palestine, as many other countries already have. The Western powers have always balked, arguing that formal recognition should come only after a final peace settlement. Now France, Britain and Canada have agreed. They are the first members of the G7 club of rich, democratic nations to take this momentous step.
Hamas can now argue that its Oct. 7 attack on Israel won Palestinians the prize that has eluded them for so long. It drew the Israelis into a devastating counterattack that blackened their reputation. Gaza may be in ruins, its people in misery, but some of Israel’s most powerful friends have turned against the Jewish state. Murder works. Yahya Sinwar, the Oct. 7 mastermind later killed in Gaza, would be pleased.
Second, it chokes off the opportunity for a negotiated agreement. The template for that has always been land for peace. Israel ends its occupation, the Palestinians acknowledge Israel’s right to live in peace, the world gives its blessing to the new state of Palestine. Though the prospect of such a deal seems remote now, it is still the best route to a lasting solution.
This pre-empts it. What leverage do Canada and its partners possess now, having granted the Palestinians their long-sought reward in advance?
Third, it recognizes something that does not exist, at least not yet. Recognition usually comes when a new country has a functioning government that exercises effective control over a coherent territory. The state that Canada is about to recognize is divided into separate pieces: the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, one torn by war, the other in turmoil. Two mutually hostile groups are vying to rule that notional state. One, Hamas, is a violent Islamist movement whose leadership has been decimated; the other, the Palestinian Authority, is stagnant, unpopular and corrupt.
(Predicated…? By next year, if the PA stays true to form, it’s already too late to take back the PR Horseshit that Carney has dragged Canada into)
Neither has faced the voters in years. Both lack all democratic legitimacy. Mahmoud Abbas, the weak and discredited PA leader, has held power since 2005. He will soon turn 90.
Prime Minister Mark Carney says he has the “personal assurance” of Mr. Abbas that the leader will hold proper elections next year. Canada’s decision to recognize a Palestinian state at the United Nations General Assembly in September is “predicated” on that pledge. Predicated on, but not conditional on. Canada won’t wait to see whether Mr. Abbas actually holds a free vote, as he has often promised to do in the past. Mr. Carney will just take his word.
Apart from all that, it will almost certainly fail to achieve its immediate goal. The three allies seem to think that recognizing Palestinian statehood will jolt Israel into seeing just how disgusted and furious the international community is with its conduct of the war in Gaza. The hope is that Israel’s leaders will come to their senses, declare an immediate ceasefire and stop blocking the road to the creation of a free Palestine.
More likely, the gesture will push Israel’s right-wing government into a corner, making it even less willing to listen. It is determined to thwart the emergence of a Palestinian state, which it is convinced would become another Gaza: an extremist-run terror state on Israel’s doorstep. All the finger wagging from Paris, London and Ottawa is not going to change its mind.
Nor will the move have much effect on Hamas, which continues to insist on keeping its arms, its hostages and its political control of Gaza despite all the suffering the recent conflict has brought – suffering it caused by attacking Israel and prolongs to this day by refusing to give ground at the bargaining table. If anything, this will embolden its hard-liners. Oh well.
Canada, like most of the world, would like to end Gaza’s agony and bring the war to a quick conclusion. Unfortunately, Ottawa’s empty gesture might have exactly the opposite effect.
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Opinion: Why it is a mistake to recognize a Palestinian state — The Globe and Mail
Canada’s empty gesture may delay true statehood
October 7th, 2023 is real, as is the reaction to it and the holocaustages (some potentially even still alive) that haven’t been released are also real.
Palestinian advocates have argued for years that the major Western powers should grant recognition to a sovereign Palestine, as many other countries already have. The Western powers have always balked, arguing that formal recognition should come only after a final peace settlement. Now France, Britain and Canada have agreed. They are the first members of the G7 club of rich, democratic nations to take this momentous step.
Hamas can now argue that its Oct. 7 attack on Israel won Palestinians the prize that has eluded them for so long. It drew the Israelis into a devastating counterattack that blackened their reputation. Gaza may be in ruins, its people in misery, but some of Israel’s most powerful friends have turned against the Jewish state. Murder works. Yahya Sinwar, the Oct. 7 mastermind later killed in Gaza, would be pleased.
Second, it chokes off the opportunity for a negotiated agreement. The template for that has always been land for peace. Israel ends its occupation, the Palestinians acknowledge Israel’s right to live in peace, the world gives its blessing to the new state of Palestine. Though the prospect of such a deal seems remote now, it is still the best route to a lasting solution.
This pre-empts it. What leverage do Canada and its partners possess now, having granted the Palestinians their long-sought reward in advance?
Third, it recognizes something that does not exist, at least not yet. Recognition usually comes when a new country has a functioning government that exercises effective control over a coherent territory. The state that Canada is about to recognize is divided into separate pieces: the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, one torn by war, the other in turmoil. Two mutually hostile groups are vying to rule that notional state. One, Hamas, is a violent Islamist movement whose leadership has been decimated; the other, the Palestinian Authority, is stagnant, unpopular and corrupt.
(Predicated…? By next year, if the PA stays true to form, it’s already too late to take back the PR Horseshit that Carney has dragged Canada into)
Neither has faced the voters in years. Both lack all democratic legitimacy. Mahmoud Abbas, the weak and discredited PA leader, has held power since 2005. He will soon turn 90.
Prime Minister Mark Carney says he has the “personal assurance” of Mr. Abbas that the leader will hold proper elections next year. Canada’s decision to recognize a Palestinian state at the United Nations General Assembly in September is “predicated” on that pledge. Predicated on, but not conditional on. Canada won’t wait to see whether Mr. Abbas actually holds a free vote, as he has often promised to do in the past. Mr. Carney will just take his word.
Yep, & at least three sides to most stories. So anyway, Canada’s decision rewards terrorism, reduces the chances of a negotiated settlement and recognizes a state that does not exist, so we got that going for us.
Apart from all that, it will almost certainly fail to achieve its immediate goal. The three allies seem to think that recognizing Palestinian statehood will jolt Israel into seeing just how disgusted and furious the international community is with its conduct of the war in Gaza. The hope is that Israel’s leaders will come to their senses, declare an immediate ceasefire and stop blocking the road to the creation of a free Palestine.
More likely, the gesture will push Israel’s right-wing government into a corner, making it even less willing to listen. It is determined to thwart the emergence of a Palestinian state, which it is convinced would become another Gaza: an extremist-run terror state on Israel’s doorstep. All the finger wagging from Paris, London and Ottawa is not going to change its mind.
Nor will the move have much effect on Hamas, which continues to insist on keeping its arms, its hostages and its political control of Gaza despite all the suffering the recent conflict has brought – suffering it caused by attacking Israel and prolongs to this day by refusing to give ground at the bargaining table. If anything, this will embolden its hard-liners. Oh well.
Canada, like most of the world, would like to end Gaza’s agony and bring the war to a quick conclusion. Unfortunately, Ottawa’s empty gesture might have exactly the opposite effect.
Opinion: Why it is a mistake to recognize a Palestinian state — The Globe and Mail
Canada’s empty gesture may delay true statehood
It's a Young Turks thing and worth watching the whole way through.
Zionist Terrorism carved Israel out of Palestine.
History on that is solid.
True, but. . . Palestine was not really a nation-state. It was a region with a bunch of petty satrapies in it. Kinda like Italy in the 1600s, only the food sucked (and does to this day).
The Jewish Terrorists in Haganah, Irgun, Lehi and Stern were all Palestinians carrying Palestinian ID and Passports because Palestine was to stay Palestine.
Horse shit. Palestine and especially Gaza are like Alsace-Lorraine. First thing every morning you look at the flagstaff over City Hall to find out what country you're in today.
Its was a lawless wasteland without Govt? It's been Palestine since 73 AD.
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Did I say it was a lawless wateland [sic]? I said it was like Alsace-Lorraine. Hardly a lawless wasteland.
And I've already said what it was for most of its history. Four whole posts back. Hard to blame you for forgetting.
The same people who ran it under the Ottomans ran it under the British, Palestinians.
It's called continuity.
Business continuity after an invasion focuses on maintaining essential government and business operations despite the disruption caused by the invasion. This involves establishing plans for the continuity of government (COG), continuity of operations (COOP), and business continuity (BC), with each addressing different aspects of maintaining functionality during and after a crisis.
Continuity of Government (COG): COG plans are designed to ensure the survival and continued functioning of the government during and after a catastrophic event, such as an invasion. These plans often involve identifying successors to key government officials, relocating essential personnel, and establishing alternative communication systems.
Continuity of Operations (COOP): COOP is a related concept, focusing on the ability of government agencies and departments to continue their essential functions under various circumstances, including emergencies and threats. COOP plans address a wider range of disruptions than COG, including natural disasters, cyberattacks, and other emergencies, ensuring that critical government services can be maintained.
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Yeah, but the “Palestinians” where Arabs of various nationalities (not Palestinians) until the ‘60’s when the Russians started pushing that narrative, and why on Earth would the Russians have an interest in that neighbourhood and specifically in creating more unrest there? Hmmmm…..
Why did the Romans name that region of Judea (or whatever tickles your fancy) Palestine? ‘Cuz….’cuz after not befriending the locals (let’s call them Jews for lack of a better term), they tried to name the region after the Jews enemies (that where already gone) and got the name close anyway.
What relation do the Philistine’s have to the Palestinians? Does it matter in the end?
Where they the “Palestinians” or something else? Keep in mind I know nothing of this conflict or region or ongoing goat-rodeo, but my Google is as good as anyone else’s.
Anyway, gonna try to squeeze in that Rogan video.
You know where there are more "Palestinians" than the West Bank or Gaza?Yeah, but the “Palestinians” where Arabs of various nationalities (not Palestinians) until the ‘60’s when the Russians started pushing that narrative, and why on Earth would the Russians have an interest in that neighbourhood and specifically in creating more unrest there? Hmmmm…..
Why did the Romans name that region of Judea (or whatever tickles your fancy) Palestine? ‘Cuz….’cuz after not befriending the locals (let’s call them Jews for lack of a better term), they tried to name the region after the Jews enemies (that where already gone) and got the name close anyway.
What relation do the Philistine’s have to the Palestinians? Does it matter in the end?
Where they the “Palestinians” or something else? Keep in mind I know nothing of this conflict or region or ongoing goat-rodeo, but my Google is as good as anyone else’s.
Anyway, gonna try to squeeze in that Rogan video.
Jordan.
There are about 2 million in Israel, about 2 million in Gaza, about 3 million in the West Bank, about 3 million in Jordan, a quarter-million in Lebanon, and about 100K in Egypt.
But they've been one people with perfect continuity of government since Jesus was in short pants, up until the eee-vil JOOZ! got a state in Israel. Just ask petros. He's having sex with Rosidae.
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The didnt become Palestinians until the 60s? They've been Palestinians for 2052 years.Yeah, but the “Palestinians” where Arabs of various nationalities (not Palestinians) until the ‘60’s when the Russians started pushing that narrative, and why on Earth would the Russians have an interest in that neighbourhood and specifically in creating more unrest there? Hmmmm…..
Why did the Romans name that region of Judea (or whatever tickles your fancy) Palestine? ‘Cuz….’cuz after not befriending the locals (let’s call them Jews for lack of a better term), they tried to name the region after the Jews enemies (that where already gone) and got the name close anyway.
What relation do the Philistine’s have to the Palestinians? Does it matter in the end?
Where they the “Palestinians” or something else? Keep in mind I know nothing of this conflict or region or ongoing goat-rodeo, but my Google is as good as anyone else’s.
Anyway, gonna try to squeeze in that Rogan video.
It wasn't a bright idea for the Pharasees and Sadducess to start a war with each other then Rome only for the temple to get trashed a second time and Judeans sent packing back to Babylon and Persia where they went on to codify what they had left of their religion and became the people known as Jews.
The Mosaic Israelites and Christians stuck around in Palestine.