The Tarriff Hype.

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Just got a deal done with the EU. Art of the deal.
LONDON, July 27 (Reuters) - In the end, Europe found it lacked the leverage to pull Donald Trump's America into a trade pact on its terms and so has signed up to a deal it can just about stomach - albeit one that is clearly skewed in the U.S.'s favour.
As such, Sunday's agreement on a blanket 15% tariff after a months-long stand-off is a reality check on the aspirations of the 27-country European Union to become an economic power able to stand up to the likes of the United States or China.
Both central banks (The Bank of Canada and the U.S. Federal Reserve) will deliver interest-rate decisions on Wednesday the 30th, only two days before the Aug. 1 deadline that Mr. Trump set to strike some sort of U.S.-Canada trade deal.

U.S. inflation has begun to tick higher, rising to an annual rate of 2.7 per cent in June from 2.4 per cent in May. And economists think more inflation is likely in the pipeline for the second half of the year as U.S. importers run down inventory they built up before the tariffs came into force, and the U.S. labour market remains tight.

Royal Bank of Canada economists Mike Reid and Carrie Freestone said in a note to clients that the Fed may need to remain on hold through the fall, with a risk that it “will need to continue to wait to start a cutting cycle, until such time that the tariff impacts subside, likely not until 2026.”

After cutting its policy rate eight consecutive times in 2024 and early 2025, the Bank of Canada has been on hold since April. There’s little chance that’s going to change this week, with financial markets pricing in less than 10-per-cent odds that the bank will cut on Wednesday, according to LSEG data.
“If you haven’t won the last battle [over inflation], and you don’t know what to expect going forward, you probably just sit on your hands,” said Mr. Holt.

With a hold fully priced-in, the main question is what signal BoC Governor Tiff Macklem will send in his press conference on Wednesday.


think the bank will likely need to resume cutting in the fall, as the negative impact of Mr. Trump’s trade war on the Canadian economy becomes more clear.

So far, the tariffs have been masked by a spike in Canadian exports to the U.S. in the first quarter as companies rushed goods across the border to beat the levies, said Darcy Briggs, senior vice-president and portfolio manager for Franklin Templeton, who oversees Canadian fixed-income strategy.

But that dynamic will likely go into reverse in the second quarter, Mr. Briggs said in an interview, weighing on Canadian GDP. Moreover, trade uncertainty has frozen business investment, and Canada could face additional trade shocks if Mr. Trump proceeds with sectoral tariffs on copper, lumber and pharmaceuticals, among other industries he’s threatened.

“The ultimate magnitude and duration of these tariffs are completely unknown because you could come to an agreement and that could be in place for a month and then, [Mr. Trump could say], ‘You did something we don’t like, so we’re going to reopen that up.’ So it just freezes everything, because a handshake doesn’t mean it’s a final deal,” Mr. Briggs said.
Any agreement that preserves Trump’s illegal tariffs would lock Canada into a subservient role for many years to come. And there’s no assurance that Trump would even live up to his end (given his regular violations of more comprehensive binding deals, like the Canada-U.S.-Mexico Agreement).
The negotiations between Washington and Ottawa have also included non-trade-related national security matters, including the border, defence spending, immigration, fentanyl, indigestion, shits & giggles, the 51st state sovereignty trolling, and Mr. Trump’s proposed Golden-ish Dome missile defence system among other come and go issues day to day as needed to distract from the Epstein issue among other US domestic distractions when needed.
 

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Why shouldn't he? In what way has he failed to make it clear that he does not care about you, the people of North America, or the economy?
Really , that is your take on Trump ? Hatred is a funny emotion isn’t it ? Have a blast from the past and remember , sing along .
Every one is beautiful in their own waaay .


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Really , that is your take on Trump ? Hatred is a funny emotion isn’t it ? Have a blast from the past and remember , sing along .
Every one is beautiful in their own waaay .


Have a coke on me .
I'm feeling 7UP I'm feeling 7UP

Record stockmarket, abundant jobs, average income 116K, housing way cheaper than here.
 

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Prime Minister Mark Carney said deals U.S. President Donald Trump has reached with other trade partners aren’t “necessarily” templates for Canada’s negotiations with the United States, given the differences in the trading relationships.

Politicians, companies and investors in Canada have been watching the progress of the EU deal closely as a bellwether for a possible U.S. agreement with Canada. Like Japan – which agreed to a 15-per-cent baseline U.S. tariff last week – the EU is a major U.S. ally and significant trading partner. Sounds familiar.

But he said that Canada is in a different position than other U.S. trading partners as it enters an “intense phase” of negotiations. “There are similarities. There are differences. One is geographic proximity,” Mr. Carney told reporters at a press conference in Prince Edward Island.

He also noted Europe’s need to find alternative energy sources after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, which appears to have shaped the deal.
“Europe needs to fully get itself off Russian energy, so they’re going to buy American energy to help them do that,” Mr. Carney told reporters. “America needs Canadian energy.”
The deal with the EU is the sixth/100 trade agreement Mr. Trump has reached in recent months as he has sought to remake the global trading system with the highest tariffs since the 1930s. He has also made deals with Britain, Japan, Indonesia, Vietnam and the Philippines.
(Some details remain unclear as these are not formal trade agreements, but rather handshake deals)

The EU deal – which was negotiated by the European Commission on behalf of member states – met with mixed reviews on Monday. The political response in Europe ranged from lukewarm to downright hostile. German Chancellor Friedrich Merz said the deal would hurt both the U.S. and Europe and cause “significant” damage to Germany, but added that “more simply wasn’t achievable.”

French Prime Minister François Bayrou said on social media that the EU had resigned “itself to submission,” while Michel Barnier, France’s former prime minister and the EU’s former chief negotiator for Brexit, called it an admission of weakness: “Weakness in negotiating posture, weakness in the desire for reindustrialization, weakness in the ambition to compete in new technologies,” he wrote on X.

Jacob Funk Kirkegaard, a senior fellow at the Brussels think tank Bruegel, said that the agreement was worse than expected, when looked at purely in terms of trade.

“It basically gives Donald Trump more or less whatever he wants,” Mr. Kirkegaard said in an interview. But seen in a broader context, where the EU is trying to keep the U.S. on board with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization military alliance and supportive of Ukraine in its war with Russia, the deal had a “certain” logic, he said.

“This isn’t really a trade deal. It’s kind of a deal that tries to manage or steer, if you like, the broader transatlantic relationship,” Mr. Kirkegaard said. “If you view the deal through those lenses, then it is less of a disappointment, it is less of a lopsided deal. But it does reflect the basic fact that there is a major war in Europe at the moment and the United States remains the military hegemon in the West.”
 

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Prime Minister Mark Carney said deals U.S. President Donald Trump has reached with other trade partners aren’t “necessarily” templates for Canada’s negotiations with the United States, given the differences in the trading relationships.

Politicians, companies and investors in Canada have been watching the progress of the EU deal closely as a bellwether for a possible U.S. agreement with Canada. Like Japan – which agreed to a 15-per-cent baseline U.S. tariff last week – the EU is a major U.S. ally and significant trading partner. Sounds familiar.

But he said that Canada is in a different position than other U.S. trading partners as it enters an “intense phase” of negotiations. “There are similarities. There are differences. One is geographic proximity,” Mr. Carney told reporters at a press conference in Prince Edward Island.

He also noted Europe’s need to find alternative energy sources after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, which appears to have shaped the deal.
“Europe needs to fully get itself off Russian energy, so they’re going to buy American energy to help them do that,” Mr. Carney told reporters. “America needs Canadian energy.”
The deal with the EU is the sixth/100 trade agreement Mr. Trump has reached in recent months as he has sought to remake the global trading system with the highest tariffs since the 1930s. He has also made deals with Britain, Japan, Indonesia, Vietnam and the Philippines.
(Some details remain unclear as these are not formal trade agreements, but rather handshake deals)

The EU deal – which was negotiated by the European Commission on behalf of member states – met with mixed reviews on Monday. The political response in Europe ranged from lukewarm to downright hostile. German Chancellor Friedrich Merz said the deal would hurt both the U.S. and Europe and cause “significant” damage to Germany, but added that “more simply wasn’t achievable.”

French Prime Minister François Bayrou said on social media that the EU had resigned “itself to submission,” while Michel Barnier, France’s former prime minister and the EU’s former chief negotiator for Brexit, called it an admission of weakness: “Weakness in negotiating posture, weakness in the desire for reindustrialization, weakness in the ambition to compete in new technologies,” he wrote on X.

Jacob Funk Kirkegaard, a senior fellow at the Brussels think tank Bruegel, said that the agreement was worse than expected, when looked at purely in terms of trade.

“It basically gives Donald Trump more or less whatever he wants,” Mr. Kirkegaard said in an interview. But seen in a broader context, where the EU is trying to keep the U.S. on board with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization military alliance and supportive of Ukraine in its war with Russia, the deal had a “certain” logic, he said.

“This isn’t really a trade deal. It’s kind of a deal that tries to manage or steer, if you like, the broader transatlantic relationship,” Mr. Kirkegaard said. “If you view the deal through those lenses, then it is less of a disappointment, it is less of a lopsided deal. But it does reflect the basic fact that there is a major war in Europe at the moment and the United States remains the military hegemon in the West.”
My wager the sticking issue is over the NWP and a Navy/AFB base at Greys Bay as well as US pipelines crossing Canada.

The US has a thing about dominating strategic shipping routes. NWP is co-owned.
 

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My wager the sticking issue is over the NWP and a Navy/AFB base at Greys Bay as well as US pipelines crossing Canada.

The US has a thing about dominating strategic shipping routes. NWP is co-owned.
You would think, diplomatically, threats & stupidity about the “51st State” would then be something that wouldn’t exist if this was actually part of a negotiation…& the whole fentanyl/immigration/whatever type excuses would never have happened if this was “really” what the negotiations where over… instead of the cluster fuck that we’ve witnessed for the last six months.
 

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You would think, diplomatically, threats & stupidity about the “51st State” would then be something that wouldn’t exist if this was actually part of a negotiation…& the whole fentanyl/immigration/whatever type excuses would never have happened if this was “really” what the negotiations where over… instead of the cluster fuck that we’ve witnessed for the last six months.
Never show your hand is his style of negotiation. Canadians should be told what is being negotiated. We know the whole golden shower dome thing is coming so what involved in that and Greys Bay/NWP.
 
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He also noted Europe’s need to find alternative energy sources after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, which appears to have shaped the deal.
Funny how the liberals couldn't find a business case to export Canadian energy to Europe, despite European leaders practically begging for our products, the US all of a sudden becomes a major supplier. Almost like it was paid for.
 
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Never show your hand is his style of negotiation. Canadians should be told what is being negotiated. We know the whole golden shower dome thing is coming so what involved in that and Greys Bay/NWP.
Trump is Always showing his hand, all eleventeen of them, from every angle, and then he takes them back and then he throws them out and then he flips them over, and then it’s his feet, as he throws shit at the wall to see what sticks, and how gullible and stupid people really are.

That could just be my impression from the outside looking in though.
 
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Trump is Always showing his hand, all eleventeen of them, from every angle, and then he takes them back and then he throws them out and then he flips them over, and then it’s his feet, as he throws shit at the wall to see what sticks, and how gullible and stupid people really are.

That could just be my impression from the outside looking in though.
We don't know what Mark of the beast Carney is doing for stupid shit. He's a weasel. Weasels do weasley things.
 

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U.S. President Donald Trump will accept nothing short of "completely open markets" to American goods in other countries, his commerce secretary said Tuesday, as uncertainty continues over whether Canada and a host of nations can reach agreements with the United States before Trump's latest threatened tariffs are supposed to kick in Friday, etc…
We don't know what Mark of the beast Carney is doing for stupid shit. He's a weasel. Weasels do weasley things.
(The statement comes as Canada's cabinet point-person on U.S. trade talks, Dominic LeBlanc, travels to Washington for the second time in recent days for what Prime Minister Mark Carney described Monday as an "intense" phase of negotiations before this week's deadline)
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Speaking Tuesday on U.S. television network CNBC, Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick said Trump is ready to impose his threatened tariffs and "move on" unless deals are reached by Friday. Lutnick also said the U.S. has rejected offers from several countries, which he didn't name (?), that fall short of the access Trump wants for American exports.

"Many, many countries had made us OK offers to open their markets — you know, 50 per cent, 30 per cent … The president said, 'No, no. I want them open,'" said Lutnick.

"So now the price of a deal with the United States of America is black and white: completely open markets."
Trump is Always showing his hand, all eleventeen of them, from every angle, and then he takes them back and then he throws them out and then he flips them over, and then it’s his feet, as he throws shit at the wall to see what sticks, and how gullible and stupid people really are.
Hmmm….If that’s the case, you’d think they would’ve mentioned this six months ago without turning complete populations hostile towards the US over this Orange Arsehole & his posturing?
Trump has argued that the U.S. needs tariffs to wrest manufacturing and investment from other countries, and to correct unfair balances where the U.S. buys more from other countries than it sells to them, but that’s so…earlier this morning?

Will Trump completely open the American market to everybody else and their dog? I’m kind of doubting that….
 
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Never show your hand is his style of negotiation. Canadians should be told what is being negotiated. We know the whole golden shower dome thing is coming so what involved in that and Greys Bay/NWP.
Trump is Always showing his hand, all eleventeen of them, from every angle, and then he takes them back and then he throws them out and then he flips them over, and then it’s his feet, as he throws shit at the wall to see what sticks, and how gullible and stupid people really are.
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In Canada's case, Trump has complained about limits to dairy imports, a digital services tax that Carney has since cancelled, and concerns about fentanyl, border security and the number of U.S. banks operating in Canada.
Last week, Trump described the talks with Canada as "not really a negotiation" and suggested Canada could simply face tariffs set unilaterally in Washington. Carney later told reporters in Prince Edward Island that talks with the U.S. have been "difficult" because Ottawa's negotiators are "fighting for Canada."

On Tuesday, sources who spoke to the Star on the condition that they were not identified because they are not authorized to speak about the negotiations said the talks are challenging because any progress that is made vanishes the next day when the Americans appear to change their minds.

There is sense from those at the table that the U.S. isn’t able to convey its specific objectives to the Canadians on a consistent basis, said one frustrated insider.

But the Canadian team is holding out hope that direct dialogue between Trump and Carney will break the impasse?
We don't know what Mark of the beast Carney is doing for stupid shit. He's a weasel. Weasels do weasley things.
Trump's latest tariff threat against Canada, detailed in an open letter to Carney earlier this month, is to impose a 35 per cent import duty on Canadian goods starting Aug. 1.

The U.S. president sent similar letters to dozens of other world leaders, threatening to finally impose the "reciprocal" tariffs first detailed in his "Liberation Day" announcement in April. At that time, Trump held a large placard for the cameras and announced a bevy of tariff rates the U.S. would impose on much of the world to overcome alleged trade unfairness.

Trump has also threatened to impose a 50 per cent tariff on copper imports. According to the federal government, more than half of Canada’s copper and copper-based product exports — worth more than $4.8 billion — went to the U.S. in 2023.

Canada, however, is among countries facing a host of additional U.S. tariffs. These now included 50 per cent duties on steel and aluminum and a 25 per cent tariff on automobiles.
You would think, diplomatically, threats & stupidity about the “51st State” would then be something that wouldn’t exist if this was actually part of a negotiation…& the whole fentanyl/immigration/whatever type excuses would never have happened if this was “really” what the negotiations where over… instead of the cluster fuck that we’ve witnessed for the last six months.
Trump also imposed 25 per cent tariffs on Canadian products and 10 per cent tariffs on energy and critical minerals, which the U.S. linked to concerns about the deadly drug fentanyl and illegal immigration. However, on March 7, goods that comply with the Canada-United States Mexico Agreement (CUSMA) were exempt from those import duties.

David Paterson, Ontario’s envoy to Washington, said Tuesday he could not predict whether Canada is getting closer to a deal this week. He stressed that a top priority is preserving the exemption from Trump’s tariffs that cover a large portion of Canadian exports to the U.S., since they comply with CUSMA. Crediting Premier Doug Ford with helping to ensure a broad layer of Trump’s tariffs didn’t apply to CUSMA-compliant trade, Paterson said the government is likely striving to preserve that exemption ahead of Friday’s deadline.
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U.S. President Donald Trump will accept nothing short of "completely open markets" to American goods in other countries, his commerce secretary said Tuesday, as uncertainty continues over whether Canada and a host of nations can reach agreements with the United States before Trump's latest threatened tariffs are supposed to kick in Friday, etc…

(The statement comes as Canada's cabinet point-person on U.S. trade talks, Dominic LeBlanc, travels to Washington for the second time in recent days for what Prime Minister Mark Carney described Monday as an "intense" phase of negotiations before this week's deadline)
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Speaking Tuesday on U.S. television network CNBC, Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick said Trump is ready to impose his threatened tariffs and "move on" unless deals are reached by Friday. Lutnick also said the U.S. has rejected offers from several countries, which he didn't name (?), that fall short of the access Trump wants for American exports.

"Many, many countries had made us OK offers to open their markets — you know, 50 per cent, 30 per cent … The president said, 'No, no. I want them open,'" said Lutnick.

"So now the price of a deal with the United States of America is black and white: completely open markets."

Hmmm….If that’s the case, you’d think they would’ve mentioned this six months ago without turning complete populations hostile towards the US over this Orange Arsehole & his posturing?
Trump has argued that the U.S. needs tariffs to wrest manufacturing and investment from other countries, and to correct unfair balances where the U.S. buys more from other countries than it sells to them, but that’s so…earlier this morning?

Will Trump completely open the American market to everybody else and their dog? I’m kind of doubting that….
So no more tariffs on lumber if we let US shit in tariff free? Or is it a one way street?