One of the infrastructure issues is they don't have any concrete plants. The person that steps up and learns the business tied into all the future economic development will be a millionaire in 10 years. Caveat being they will have to be an early riser.
Alberta GTFO?
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Year round roads, RO water, off diesel electricity, access to groceries, houses would be a good start.
Back to Alberta & the GTFO endearment. Alberta Premier Danielle Smith threw down the gauntlet to newly elected Prime Minister Mark Carney in a livestreamed address Monday, calling on him to negotiate a new deal between Ottawa and Alberta guaranteeing more pipelines and changes to equalization.
“We hope this will result in a binding agreement that Albertans can have confidence in. Call it an ‘Alberta accord’,” said Smith, seated in front of a backdrop of Albertan and Canadian flags.
Smith said she would soon appoint a special team to represent Alberta in these negotiations.
She set down multiple demands the province intends to make, including guaranteed access to tidewater for its energy exports on all three coasts, the elimination of federal net-zero policies, and the same per-capita federal transfers and equalization payments as Ontario, Quebec and British Columbia receive.
“If these points can be agreed to by the federal government, I’m convinced it will not only make Alberta and Canada an infinitely stronger and more prosperous country, but will eliminate the doubts of a growing number of Albertans.”
“We have no issue with Alberta continuing to subsidize smaller provinces … but there is no excuse for such large and powerful economies … to be subsidizing one another,” said Smith.
No issue continuing to subsidize smaller provinces? I feel like I’m doing the Steve Boots Ecco. That Smith, damn her, and her acknowledging there’s a problem, & stating she’s not for separation.
Carney insists he’s not Trudeau, so let’s see him walk the walk. In a separate announcement last week from the one about referendum rules, Smith pledged to launch a legal challenge against the Liberals’ clean electricity regulations.
The premier has repeatedly called on Carney to scrap those federal regulations and other Trudeau-era climate policies, such as the national cap on oil and gas emissions.
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Let’s give it a year and see where it goes.
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If you really feel strongly about this, move to Alberta, soon enough to qualify as an Albertian, & cast your vote as you see fit.
Oh, & this is the dude on the left. The one you didn’t recognize Serryah, that most I know out here can relate to, as opposed to the one from here that you can relate to out there:
“We hope this will result in a binding agreement that Albertans can have confidence in. Call it an ‘Alberta accord’,” said Smith, seated in front of a backdrop of Albertan and Canadian flags.
Smith said she would soon appoint a special team to represent Alberta in these negotiations.
She set down multiple demands the province intends to make, including guaranteed access to tidewater for its energy exports on all three coasts, the elimination of federal net-zero policies, and the same per-capita federal transfers and equalization payments as Ontario, Quebec and British Columbia receive.
“If these points can be agreed to by the federal government, I’m convinced it will not only make Alberta and Canada an infinitely stronger and more prosperous country, but will eliminate the doubts of a growing number of Albertans.”
“We have no issue with Alberta continuing to subsidize smaller provinces … but there is no excuse for such large and powerful economies … to be subsidizing one another,” said Smith.
No issue continuing to subsidize smaller provinces? I feel like I’m doing the Steve Boots Ecco. That Smith, damn her, and her acknowledging there’s a problem, & stating she’s not for separation.
Hmmmm…“ That was never the intent of equalization and it needs to end.” Smith had her first post-election meeting with Carney on Friday, calling the talk “a positive first step” toward undoing nearly a decade of acrimony between Alberta and the Justin Trudeau-led Liberal government in Ottawa.
Carney insists he’s not Trudeau, so let’s see him walk the walk. In a separate announcement last week from the one about referendum rules, Smith pledged to launch a legal challenge against the Liberals’ clean electricity regulations.
The premier has repeatedly called on Carney to scrap those federal regulations and other Trudeau-era climate policies, such as the national cap on oil and gas emissions.
Smith wants to negotiate 'Alberta accord' guaranteeing pipelines, more federal cash — National Post
Alberta's premier said she will also put a referendum on the ballot if a petition gets enough signatures
PREMIER SMITH ANNOUNCES ALBERTA'S NEXT STEP IN CANADA
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Oh, & this is the dude on the left. The one you didn’t recognize Serryah, that most I know out here can relate to, as opposed to the one from here that you can relate to out there:
Oh, good! Have they selected a time and place? Pistols or swords?
"Thrown down the gauntlet" my red ass.
Alberta premier promises separation referendum in 2026 if petition signatures warrant
Author of the article:Canadian Press
Canadian Press
Lisa Johnson
Published May 05, 2025 • Last updated 14 hours ago • 3 minute read
EDMONTON — Alberta Premier Danielle Smith says she will hold a referendum on provincial separation next year if citizens gather the required signatures on a petition.
Smith, in a livestream address Monday, said she wants a sovereign Alberta within a united Canada but there is a growing number of Albertans who are unhappy with Confederation, and are organizing petitions to push for an exit.
“The vast majority of these individuals are not fringe voices to be marginalized or vilified. They are loyal Albertans,” she said.
“They’re frustrated, and they have every reason to be.”
The speech comes a week after Smith’s United Conservative government introduced legislation that, if passed, would sharply reduce the bar petitioners need to meet to trigger a provincial referendum.
The bill, introduced the day after the federal election, would change citizen-initiated referendum rules to require a petition signed by 10 per cent of the eligible voters in a previous general election — down from 20 per cent of total registered voters. Applicants would also get 120 days, rather than 90, to collect the required 177,000 signatures.
Smith said Alberta has no choice but to take steps to combat a decade of hostile federal Liberal policies she says have not only taken an unfair share of Alberta’s wealth but in doing so have also undermined the oil and gas industry that drives its economy.
As Prime Minister Mark Carney prepares to meet U.S. President Donald Trump in person in Washington on Tuesday to discuss the tariff trade war and other issues, Smith said Liberal rule has turned Canada into an international laughingstock.
“We have the most abundant and accessible natural resources of any country on Earth, and yet we landlock them, sell what we do produce to a single customer to the south of us while enabling polluting dictatorships to eat our lunch,” she said.
Smith said a rise in popular support for infrastructure projects across Canada, like pipelines, gives her hope, and she will continue working on negotiating a fair deal with the prime minister “in good faith.”
Meanwhile, her government is to appoint a negotiation team to try to bring an end to federal policies that have long irritated the province, and to demand guaranteed access to tidewater for Alberta’s resource exports including oil and gas.
Smith said she will also chair what she’s now calling an Alberta Next panel, hosting a series of town halls to hear ideas and grievances from Albertans.
“It is likely we will place some of the more popular ideas discussed with the panel to a provincial referendum so that all Albertans can vote on them sometime in 2026,” she said.
The premier’s broadcast comes after hundreds of people rallied at the Alberta legislature Saturday to support seceding from Canada, with some saying they were prompted by federal election results that saw the Liberals win their fourth consecutive term.
Smith said her government’s actions are not in response to the fact their preferred candidate, Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre, and his party lost the election.
“It’s that the same Liberal government, with almost all the same ministers responsible for our nation’s inflation, housing, crime and budget crisis, and that oversaw the attack on our provincial economy for the past 10 years, have been returned to power,” she said.
Smith said she’s committed to protecting and upholding the rights of First Nations, Metis and Inuit peoples and treaties.
It comes after First Nations leaders representing the Assembly of First Nations and communities in Treaty 6, 7, and 8 territories have been vocal in warning against any talk of provincial separation.
Many have noted the treaties predate the province, and that Alberta doesn’t have the authority to separate lands protected by those treaties.
The premier is expected to hold a press conference and take questions from reporters on Tuesday.
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Author of the article:Canadian Press
Canadian Press
Lisa Johnson
Published May 05, 2025 • Last updated 14 hours ago • 3 minute read
EDMONTON — Alberta Premier Danielle Smith says she will hold a referendum on provincial separation next year if citizens gather the required signatures on a petition.
Smith, in a livestream address Monday, said she wants a sovereign Alberta within a united Canada but there is a growing number of Albertans who are unhappy with Confederation, and are organizing petitions to push for an exit.
“The vast majority of these individuals are not fringe voices to be marginalized or vilified. They are loyal Albertans,” she said.
“They’re frustrated, and they have every reason to be.”
The speech comes a week after Smith’s United Conservative government introduced legislation that, if passed, would sharply reduce the bar petitioners need to meet to trigger a provincial referendum.
The bill, introduced the day after the federal election, would change citizen-initiated referendum rules to require a petition signed by 10 per cent of the eligible voters in a previous general election — down from 20 per cent of total registered voters. Applicants would also get 120 days, rather than 90, to collect the required 177,000 signatures.
Smith said Alberta has no choice but to take steps to combat a decade of hostile federal Liberal policies she says have not only taken an unfair share of Alberta’s wealth but in doing so have also undermined the oil and gas industry that drives its economy.
As Prime Minister Mark Carney prepares to meet U.S. President Donald Trump in person in Washington on Tuesday to discuss the tariff trade war and other issues, Smith said Liberal rule has turned Canada into an international laughingstock.
“We have the most abundant and accessible natural resources of any country on Earth, and yet we landlock them, sell what we do produce to a single customer to the south of us while enabling polluting dictatorships to eat our lunch,” she said.
Smith said a rise in popular support for infrastructure projects across Canada, like pipelines, gives her hope, and she will continue working on negotiating a fair deal with the prime minister “in good faith.”
Meanwhile, her government is to appoint a negotiation team to try to bring an end to federal policies that have long irritated the province, and to demand guaranteed access to tidewater for Alberta’s resource exports including oil and gas.
Smith said she will also chair what she’s now calling an Alberta Next panel, hosting a series of town halls to hear ideas and grievances from Albertans.
“It is likely we will place some of the more popular ideas discussed with the panel to a provincial referendum so that all Albertans can vote on them sometime in 2026,” she said.
The premier’s broadcast comes after hundreds of people rallied at the Alberta legislature Saturday to support seceding from Canada, with some saying they were prompted by federal election results that saw the Liberals win their fourth consecutive term.
Smith said her government’s actions are not in response to the fact their preferred candidate, Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre, and his party lost the election.
“It’s that the same Liberal government, with almost all the same ministers responsible for our nation’s inflation, housing, crime and budget crisis, and that oversaw the attack on our provincial economy for the past 10 years, have been returned to power,” she said.
Smith said she’s committed to protecting and upholding the rights of First Nations, Metis and Inuit peoples and treaties.
It comes after First Nations leaders representing the Assembly of First Nations and communities in Treaty 6, 7, and 8 territories have been vocal in warning against any talk of provincial separation.
Many have noted the treaties predate the province, and that Alberta doesn’t have the authority to separate lands protected by those treaties.
The premier is expected to hold a press conference and take questions from reporters on Tuesday.
Alberta premier promises separation referendum in 2026 if petition signatures warrant
Alberta Premier Smith says she would hold a referendum on provincial separation next year if citizens gather the required signatures.
Says who? I'm thinking it would be part of the negotiations. After all, the Federal government has done sweet tweet for most FN's anyway.
That is a very good question. History has shown that few things liberals have done "for the good of ALL Canada" actually WERE good for anywhere West of Manitoba. I would expect there are some that want to separate regardless, but I think the majority just want to be treated equally for a change. With, no doubt some goodies that only benefit the West but have no impact from Ontario East. Also remember that the majority of BC, area wise, is willing to join Alberta should they separate, giving Alberta ocean access and a couple of good harbours. Part of that is frustration with both Ottawa and the lower mainland dicktating rules that are detrimental to all of BC except the Lower Mainland, which is not affected at all by them.
Interesting times to be sure.
But we all know the lunatic left will claim that is not what she means. Even after deals are signed.
Sometimes I think they don't really want these problems to go away as they are very useful in negotiations and hard to do in reality given some of the remote locations. They could do a lot of the stuff for themselves if they wanted to.
One thing about concrete is the sand, water, and gravel are all available locally for remote locations. Cement by air cargo / dirigibles would be the cats meow.
Well, the media language is pretty inflammatory. Here’s a weird story that may or may not be connected to further weirdness:
Peter MacKinnon: The University of Saskatchewan is on an ideological mission. It needs to end — National Post
Mandatory DEI training for academic staff merits a public outcry and action by the government
I guess it leads to a few questions.Well, the media language is pretty inflammatory. Here’s a weird story that may or may not be connected to further weirdness:
Peter MacKinnon: The University of Saskatchewan is on an ideological mission. It needs to end — National Post
Mandatory DEI training for academic staff merits a public outcry and action by the government
Does Canadian culture include a history of racism?
Let's get past the knee-jerk "I'm not a racist!" and ask the question honestly. . . do you (whoever "you" is) ever make assumptions about people based on their ethnicity/race/sex/religion/whatever?
Does your organization/institution represent the pool from which it draws in proportion to the ethnicities/races/sexes/religions/whatevers of those pools?
Is anti-rape/anti-sexual assault training a good thing or a bad thing? Is anti-drug/anti-alcohol abuse training a good thing or a bad thing?
So. . . racism, cultural bigotry, sexism, and alcohol problems have existed, and continue to exist, in Canadian society. Why is DEI the only one of these things you should NOT be training people on?
I was referring to the average FN but your point is well taken.
How objective is the DEI training in your opinion at that link? This is at the University of Saskatchewan (so in Saskatoon). You don’t have to click on the link… but knowing which university to throw into a Google search bar, and the first half of a sentence that comes up with that link above could probably take you to the story…
Not all locations ave useable gravel around. Back in the 80s, when we did a bunch of sewer and water projects on the coast, we would park a barge on a sandy beach at high tide, and then at low tide we would bail sand with excavators, Cheap and fast since sand had to be imported anyway. Most of the concrete was premix, since it is federal money there are lots of specifications to meet.
I think everyone does at times. But when your assumptions are based on previous experience and medical training, is it still racist? The specific one that comes to mind is that as First responders, we are not to assume that a native that is passed out on the sidewalk and reeking of alcohol is drunk. OK, fair enough, they could also have done a shitload of crack as well. But the same rule does not apply to non-natives. Because white people that are passed out and reek of alcohol are always drunk?
This from some guy named Dan Arnold, an ex-Alberta Liberal organizer who’s now an executive with Pollara Strategic Insights.
Arnold said the silver lining for Carney is that most Albertans have a gripe with Ottawa, not with Canada as a whole.
“Albertans still identify strongly as Canadians,” said Arnold. “Alberta separatism isn’t identity-based in the same way as Quebec separatism.”
Liberal insiders with ties to Alberta say this is a threat that Carney shouldn’t take lightly. And Ontario Premier Doug Ford told reporters on Wednesday that he agrees.
Arnold also said that now is a good time for Carney to “sell Canada” to disaffected Albertans, with national pride rising in the face of tariffs and annexation threats from U.S. President Donald Trump.
He noted that next month’s G7 summit in Kananaskis, Alta., will give Carney a great opportunity to send a message of national unity to Albertans…but he’ll have to walk the walk & not just talk the talk.
Ford said Wednesday that he’s personally told Carney to take a less confrontational approach to Alberta and the other western provinces than his Liberal predecessor Justin Trudeau.
“I said it’s time that your government starts showing some love to Saskatchewan and Alberta (because) the last prime minister showed no love,” Ford told reporters in Toronto.
Ford called on Carney to build more oil and gas pipelines and repeal Bill 69, which critics have called the “no-new-pipelines” law.
Calgary-based Liberal strategist Sabrina Grover said that Carney’s outreach to Alberta can start with the more than 600,000 Albertans who marked “Liberal” on their ballot in last week’s federal election.
Grover said that Carney can build even more goodwill with Albertans by listening attentively to their concerns, especially surrounding natural resource development, & then actually doing something.
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Arnold said the silver lining for Carney is that most Albertans have a gripe with Ottawa, not with Canada as a whole.
“Albertans still identify strongly as Canadians,” said Arnold. “Alberta separatism isn’t identity-based in the same way as Quebec separatism.”
Liberal insiders with ties to Alberta say this is a threat that Carney shouldn’t take lightly. And Ontario Premier Doug Ford told reporters on Wednesday that he agrees.
Arnold also said that now is a good time for Carney to “sell Canada” to disaffected Albertans, with national pride rising in the face of tariffs and annexation threats from U.S. President Donald Trump.
He noted that next month’s G7 summit in Kananaskis, Alta., will give Carney a great opportunity to send a message of national unity to Albertans…but he’ll have to walk the walk & not just talk the talk.
Ford said Wednesday that he’s personally told Carney to take a less confrontational approach to Alberta and the other western provinces than his Liberal predecessor Justin Trudeau.
“I said it’s time that your government starts showing some love to Saskatchewan and Alberta (because) the last prime minister showed no love,” Ford told reporters in Toronto.
Ford called on Carney to build more oil and gas pipelines and repeal Bill 69, which critics have called the “no-new-pipelines” law.
Calgary-based Liberal strategist Sabrina Grover said that Carney’s outreach to Alberta can start with the more than 600,000 Albertans who marked “Liberal” on their ballot in last week’s federal election.
Grover said that Carney can build even more goodwill with Albertans by listening attentively to their concerns, especially surrounding natural resource development, & then actually doing something.
Doug Ford says Carney should extend an olive branch to the West. Liberal strategists agree — National Post
Fifty-five per cent of Albertans feel that their province is being treated unfairly by the federal government
PS to the above. Maybe Carney shouldn’t refer to Alberta’s Premier as…
…as that might not go over well.