Alberta GTFO?

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Kinda off-topic, but Trump is the greatest thing for left-ish parties around the world since Hitler.

Anthony Albanese is the prime minister of Australia. So now you have no excuse for not knowing.
 
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Ron in Regina

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petros

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That’s kind of funny. Alibaba is another Chinese company, isn’t it? So you could but the unembroidered hats, the thread, and the embroidery machine for the hats from China and cut them out of the loop for the finished product. That’ll learn them.
Its the entire hat from scratch.

Odds are high the machine doesn't come fully assembled making it a product of "_______" when assembled.
 

Serryah

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Let's get serious a moment. Actual serious, no name calling, no slagging off because of regional bias.

Yes I know none of you think Steve knows jack shit about what he's talking about.

But.

IF you watch the video, can any of you who support Alberta and Saskatchewan stepping out explain WHY what he's bringing up here isn't true? Can you point out that no, none of the reasons for Western Separation he gives are the right ones? What points IS he wrong about, and WHY.
 

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Weirdly, you’re the only one here talking about Alberta ‘stepping out’ at all. Why’s that?

Only one on this board, Ron.

And to me it's now serious enough a thing (NOT that it wasn't serious enough before, but now it just seems different enough TO take it seriously) that I unblocked you and Petros just to 'discuss' it (and will see how long it lasts).

It's becoming enough of a serious thing that I want a convo - an honest one - about it, without mudslinging.


Steve is way off.

Where? How?

Why is he way off?

Just saying it isn't enough, Petros.


Remove SK and AB from Canadian GDP and you'll understand their fear.

It's not fear because even if the people of Alberta "Separated", the land goes nowhere and the Indigenous would have more control over it, and all the funds gained from any resources would still stay in Canada. So monetary issues being 'removed' won't be a thing.

Like when Quebec threatened Separation in the 90's, the current situation seems more "real" than just the shittalking of before.

I get y'all hate Ottawa (and Quebec). I can even understand why since it's not only the West that gets screwed by Ottawa. But you don't see us talking about Separating, or the North. So why is it Alberta and Sask that feel this has to happen?
 

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I’m trying it.

I’m 7 minutes in (so 3/4’s of this video yet unseen), and this guy has said absolutely nothing beyond NEP was a good idea that didn’t have a great execution. That’s it…

So you've no comment on the other things mentioned?

Equalization (and how referring to Moe's little meme on it but admits that there IS imbalances?), the Wheat Board (which was the result of Harper, remember) and lack of it, pipelines (he asks WHY they're such a focus?) All of those you actually agree with him on enough to dismiss the valid points/questions?

Okay.

10 minutes in so far. Waiting to hear him actually say something.

He's said a lot of things - why do you think he hasn't? You've no comment at all on his comments to True Alienation and whether that's relatable to Alberta and Sask? How the region is Propagandized? That's some pretty opinionated information there whether you agree with him or not so you saying he hasn't said anything is bizarre to me.


I'll also point out, in case someone decides to say it - he's not a Liberal. He's certainly not Conservative, but he's not Liberal, either, so don't just throw that out as some sort of 'oh he's a Liberal so his opinions mean shit' thing.
 

petros

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Only one on this board, Ron.

And to me it's now serious enough a thing (NOT that it wasn't serious enough before, but now it just seems different enough TO take it seriously) that I unblocked you and Petros just to 'discuss' it (and will see how long it lasts).

It's becoming enough of a serious thing that I want a convo - an honest one - about it, without mudslinging.




Where? How?

Why is he way off?

Just saying it isn't enough, Petros.




It's not fear because even if the people of Alberta "Separated", the land goes nowhere and the Indigenous would have more control over it, and all the funds gained from any resources would still stay in Canada. So monetary issues being 'removed' won't be a thing.

Like when Quebec threatened Separation in the 90's, the current situation seems more "real" than just the shittalking of before.

I get y'all hate Ottawa (and Quebec). I can even understand why since it's not only the West that gets screwed by Ottawa. But you don't see us talking about Separating, or the North. So why is it Alberta and Sask that feel this has to happen?
How is he off? It's not a corporate conspiracy or money motivated issue.

What do you have in common with anyone from the west now that you can't have with an independent west?

Oh, almost forgot. The Numbered Treaties made with "The Crown" are shit deals that have and always will hold first nations back as long as lands remain Crown lands.
 

Ron in Regina

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Huh, “if you want to understand Western alienation, you have to think past racism (?) and transphobia (?) and sexism?” Ok. That’s about 10.5 minutes in…

Life happening. I’ll have to come back to this later. Got tied up with work for a couple hours there and just coming back to this.

In the pretty much nothing he said so far in the first half of this video, he refers to Marxism a lot. A lot about Marxism, or at least the same few sentences repeatedly so it sounds like he’s talking about it a lot.

“If you’re trans & someone swerved their truck at you it’s attempted murder.” Ok, got it.

Then “why doesn’t Alberta as a province have a sovereign wealth fund like Norway the nation?” Maybe because Alberta is a province with a significant draw off of it for Canada that Norway as a country doesn’t have? Norway is paying Canada how much in royalties to harvest its own natural resources again?

(This dude is his own Ecco, repeatedly)

This has nothing to do with brain washing.
This has nothing to do with brain washing.

This has nothing to do with malleability.
This has nothing to do with malleability.

Critic of the Saskatchewan educational system, some scans of a fifty year old textbook, etc…

Oh….16+ plus minutes in, this dude is finally touching on something, not sure what yet cause I paused, but it’s a couple sentence long letter from a sturgeon lake Cree nation mentioning separation, saying like it or lump it. That’s still not an explanation of the justification or lack there of, or an explanation of someone who’s probably never been to Alberta to have extreme hostility towards it, maybe that’s coming…

That doesn’t mean we give up the ground! That doesn’t mean we give up the ground…
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This just sounds so very familiar?
The answer is organize. The answer is organize.

Find the folks who’re already fight it & going up with them. Find the folks who’re already fighting it & join up with them.

Again a fantastic statement. Again, a fantastic statement.

Holy Christ, I made it through the video. This guy said about 90 seconds worth of stuff, but it took him more than 28 minutes to do it, and I think I feel dumber for the experience. How do you say nothing for half an hour, & then think that you’ve said something of significance?
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Afterwards, I even googled to see who this guy was and what mother‘s basement he semi-crawled out of…& maybe his repetitive speech pattern is due to working with children under 10? Anyway, I think I’ll listen to the guy on the left before I listen to the guy on the right again. The guy on the left I can relate to, & whomever the other two wearing toques are in the summer or indoors…yeah…no.
IF you watch the video, can any of you who support Alberta and Saskatchewan stepping out explain WHY what he's bringing up here isn't true? Can you point out that no, none of the reasons for Western Separation he gives are the right ones? What points IS he wrong about, and WHY.
Who’s supporting Alberta stepping out currently? Let’s give it a couple years and see where it goes. Carney is in, & he’ll either do something for all of Canada or he’ll not do something for all of Canada, & then we see what happens.

This Steve Boots really didn’t say anything, but he sure seems to like the sound of his own voice. How can I agree or disagree with a whole lot of nothing?
And to me it's now serious enough a thing (NOT that it wasn't serious enough before, but now it just seems different enough TO take it seriously) that I unblocked you and Petros just to 'discuss' it (and will see how long it lasts).
I had no idea I was blocked. Interesting.
 

bob the dog

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Been noticing lately what little difference there is between having lots of money and living a borderline subsistence level existence. Both can stand outside on a nice day and enjoy the weather. Eating, shitting. and sleeping is pretty much the same. Somewhat ironically the rich and important in my family are the most miserable.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say money just might not be everything and it's kind of stupid to place such a high level of importance on it.

One problem being you need enough to get by and real inflation is always a concern.
 

petros

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Huh, “if you want to understand Western alienation, you have to think past racism (?) and transphobia (?) and sexism?” Ok. That’s about 10.5 minutes in…

Life happening. I’ll have to come back to this later. Got tied up with work for a couple hours there and just coming back to this.

In the pretty much nothing he said so far in the first half of this video, he refers to Marxism a lot. A lot about Marxism, or at least the same few sentences repeatedly so it sounds like he’s talking about it a lot.

“If you’re trans & someone swerved their truck at you it’s attempted murder.” Ok, got it.

Then “why doesn’t Alberta as a province have a sovereign wealth fund like Norway the nation?” Maybe because Alberta is a province with a significant draw off of it for Canada that Norway as a country doesn’t have? Norway is paying Canada how much in royalties to harvest its own natural resources again?

(This dude is his own Ecco, repeatedly)

This has nothing to do with brain washing.
This has nothing to do with brain washing.

This has nothing to do with malleability.
This has nothing to do with malleability.

Critic of the Saskatchewan educational system, some scans of a fifty year old textbook, etc…

Oh….16+ plus minutes in, this dude is finally touching on something, not sure what yet cause I paused, but it’s a couple sentence long letter from a sturgeon lake Cree nation mentioning separation, saying like it or lump it. That’s still not an explanation of the justification or lack there of, or an explanation of someone who’s probably never been to Alberta to have extreme hostility towards it, maybe that’s coming…

That doesn’t mean we give up the ground! That doesn’t mean we give up the ground…
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This just sounds so very familiar?
The answer is organize. The answer is organize.

Find the folks who’re already fight it & going up with them. Find the folks who’re already fighting it & join up with them.

Again a fantastic statement. Again, a fantastic statement.

Holy Christ, I made it through the video. This guy said about 90 seconds worth of stuff, but it took him more than 28 minutes to do it, and I think I feel dumber for the experience. How do you say nothing for half an hour, & then I think that you’ve said something of significance?
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Afterwards, I even googled to see who this guy was and what mother‘s basement he semi-crawled out of…& maybe his repetitive speech pattern is due to working with children under 10? Anyway, I think I’ll listen to the guy on the left before I listen to the guy on the right again. The guy on the left I can relate to, & whomever the other two wearing toques are in the summer or indoors…yeah…no.

Who’s supporting Alberta stepping out currently? Let’s give it a couple years and see where it goes. Carney is in, & he’ll either do something for all of Canada or he’ll not do something for all of Canada, & then we see what happens.

This Steve Boots really didn’t say anything, but he sure seems to like the sound of his own voice. How can I agree or disagree with a whole lot of nothing?

I had no idea I was blocked. Interesting.
Boots openly admits he's a communist and has a bias bent against corporations. Sad he's a Regina boy.

The middle toque guy is Leroy of Leroy and Leroy.
 

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(Guess who the “she” is above)



Yeah…anyway, Alberta Premier Danielle Smith says she’s looking for quick action on federal energy policies following a “very positive” first meeting Friday with Prime Minister Mark Carney.

The conversation was the first since Carney’s Liberals won last week’s election and occurred a day after the province launched legal action challenging Ottawa’s clean electricity grid regulations.

Smith had previously issued a list of nine economic-focused demands for the next prime minister and pledged to strike a panel to ask Albertans what they would want if the Liberals won a fourth consecutive term.

Speaking on her call-in radio show Saturday, the premier said “some common ground” was found as she raised each of those demands and the two discussed projects of importance to Alberta.

“He listened attentively. He did not dismiss out of hand or reject anything that I said, and that’s a very positive first step,” Smith said. “For me though, it’s more than words. We have to see action and that is what I will be pressing for.”
Meanwhile, Carney thanked Smith on social media for their call.
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“We’re both focused on bringing down the cost of living and increasing opportunities in the energy sector for hard-working Albertans,” he wrote.
This is easy. Whatever Brookfield has investments in will get approved.
 
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Been noticing lately what little difference there is between having lots of money and living a borderline subsistence level existence. Both can stand outside on a nice day and enjoy the weather. Eating, shitting. and sleeping is pretty much the same. Somewhat ironically the rich and important in my family are the most miserable.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say money just might not be everything and it's kind of stupid to place such a high level of importance on it.

One problem being you need enough to get by and real inflation is always a concern.
It seems to me family structure has much to do with happiness . If family is more important then the accumulation of wealth , happiness comes naturally . If their is no time for family things can go off the rails before anyone notices .