Pierre Poilievre

Ron in Regina

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“Liberal establishment has installed Justin Trudeau’s economic advisor as the next Liberal leader, to trick Canadians into giving Liberals a fourth term in power,” he said.

“He’s just like Justin, he’s more of the same.”

Poilievre appeared unfazed by Carney’s convention-night promise to do away with the consumer carbon tax, explaining his government would do away with ALL forms of the contentious tax.

“We are going to have a carbon tax election because Mark Carney has proposed to add another industrial carbon tax on top of the existing one,” he said, referencing previous media interviews where the former top banker promised to develop and enact a new system of climate incentives funded by charging large industrial emitters.

“In days, Donald Trump could impose tariffs on Canadian steel at the same time Mark Carney says a new carbon tax on Canadian steel.”
Poilievre said to expect little change when Carney replaces outgoing Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, saying he’s got the same MPs, advisors and plans as the previous administration.

“Mark Carney is trying to hide from his record over the last five years, of advising Trudeau to raise carbon taxes, money-printing inflation and blocking resource projects — all while he moved his company’s headquarters and jobs to the United States,” Poilievre said, pointing out Carney’s reluctance to elaborate on his role in Brookfield Asset Management’s decision last year to relocate their head office from Canada to New York City.
 
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Carnaval's version of eliminating the carbon scam tax is having it buried in the retail price of products, similar to the old Manufacturer's Sales Tax.That way, the low information voters(read liberal and ndp) will think they are not paying a carbon scam tax.
 
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Ron in Regina

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“Liberal establishment has installed Justin Trudeau’s economic advisor as the next Liberal leader, to trick Canadians into giving Liberals a fourth term in power,” he said.

“He’s just like Justin, he’s more of the same.”

Poilievre appeared unfazed by Carney’s convention-night promise to do away with the consumer carbon tax, explaining his government would do away with ALL forms of the contentious tax.

“We are going to have a carbon tax election because Mark Carney has proposed to add another industrial carbon tax on top of the existing one,” he said, referencing previous media interviews where the former top banker promised to develop and enact a new system of climate incentives funded by charging large industrial emitters.

“In days, Donald Trump could impose tariffs on Canadian steel at the same time Mark Carney says a new carbon tax on Canadian steel.”
 

Ron in Regina

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The Liberal plan, in action for a decade, is just tax, tax, tax and cancel or refuse to build pipelines. For the general population it is a lose, lose proposition. We are not exploiting our resources to build wealth and jobs, while we are taxed up our own pipeline.

Poilievre said, “My priority is to stand up for our country and our interests over here. I want to sell our natural gas to India. National Bank did a study showing that with India’s growing electricity demand, if we sold them enough gas to supply half of that demand, we can reduce greenhouse gas emission by three times as much as the total emissions of Canada because we’ll displace dirtier coal.”

He said we have 1,300 trillion cubic feet of natural gas reserves.

His plan is to exploit that resource, which will up our carbon output, but reduce the carbon output of India to a greater degree for an over all win for the planet, for India and for Canada.

That is not a slogan. It is a plan, and it vastly outperforms that of the Liberals. It is a win, win.

The coming election is not a runaway win for the Conservatives, it’s going to be a fight. It is a fight that we need now though, so that we can have a functional government with a clear mandate.
 
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Let’s say, if just for the sake of argument, that the outcome of the federal election depends on how the vote goes in Ontario.

Because that’s the way it usually goes, and nothing in the dynamics of this campaign suggests there’s a compelling reason to expect it to be different. Conservative Leder Pierre Poilievre can sweep all of Alberta and the best he’ll pick up is two Liberal seats. Ontario has 74 Liberals, more than three times the total for all of western Canada. That being the case, Poilievre has considerable work to do to if he wants the province to help make him prime minister.

Ontario figures now show Liberals and Tories in a dead heat, with New Democrats falling off a cliff. Polls, of course, are not holy writ, but the uniformity of the findings across so many surveys suggests its safe to conclude Poilievre’s standing in Ontario was never a love affair, but the result of a marriage gone sour. Ontarians didn’t favour Poilievre so much as they’d come to detest Trudeau. They wanted him gone, and if supporting Conservatives was the best way to achieve his departure, they’d make do with Conservatives.
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But Trudeau is gone now. The boil has been lanced. A Trudeauless Liberal party doesn’t annoy Ontario the way his ongoing presence did. Poilievre has to accept that reality, and retool his message appropriately if he aims to regain lost ground. Even as the election begins, there’s no real evidence he’s willing to do that. Tory messaging remains consistent: Liberals are all the same, a Carney government would be a continuation of the Trudeau government, Carney is just like Justin, after nine years of failure and disappointment why vote for more of the same?
Like it or not, Poilievre needs the province in his win column. In particular he needs to steal Liberal ridings in the narrow corridor bordering Lake Ontario from Niagara Falls to Oshawa that might as well be renamed the Liberal Horseshoe for all the presence Conservatives enjoy. Half the province lives there and is the reason Liberals have dominated Ottawa for so long. If Poilievre hopes too best Carney, he’ll have to find a way to do it there.
 

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Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre launched his campaign Sunday promising to deliver change, and contrasting himself to the man his Liberal opponents are expected to try and paint him as over the next 36 days: U.S. President Donald Trump.

Appearing at the Museum of History across the river from Parliament Hill, Poilievre said he shares the anger and anxiety Canadians are feeling because of Trump’s words and the current trade war Canada finds itself in with its closest ally.

“I respect the office of the President of the United States and we have to show respect to other world leaders,” Poilievre said, when asked whether he respects Trump.

He said given the two countries’ trading relationship and that Trump will be in office for the next four years, Canada’s next prime minster will have to work with him.

“You can be respectful and firm, and I believe we have to be both. I will insist the president recognize the independence and sovereignty of Canada. I will insist that he stop tariffing our nation.”
(YouTube & 'Change and hope are both on the way': Poilievre kicks off election campaign)

“At the same time,” Poilievre said, “I will strengthen our country so that we can be capable of standing (on) our own two feet and standing up to the Americans, where and when necessary. That’s what it means when I say let’s put Canada first for a change.”

Liberal Leader Mark Carney wasted no time arguing that Poilievre was stealing his policy ideas from Trump’s administration (?) as Carney was stealing policy ideas from Poilievre’s Conservative Party, and with actions speaking louder than words, Carney is much closer in behaviour to Trump, but that’s neither here nor there.

“That’s the choice for Canadians: a Canadian Trump or a government that unites the country and focuses on action in order to build a strong economy that works for all Canadians,” said Carney, in French, at a press conference outside Rideau Hall on Sunday…so is Carney saying Canadians should vote for Poilievre & the Conservative Party here???

Poilievre launched his campaign as public opinion polls show his two-and-a-half-year 20-point lead over the Liberals collapsing into a dead heat between the two parties, with concerns about the cost-of-living taking a back seat to Trump’s tariffs and his comments about annexing Canada.
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Poilievre spoke on Sunday about half an hour before Carney was scheduled to ask Governor General Mary Simon to dissolve Parliament (which was still Prorogue’d due to Carney’s coronation process) and send Canadians to the polls next month.

“I will protect this country and put Canada first,” said Poilievre, in a speech that excoriated the Liberal government’s record of a “lost decade.”
 

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Let’s say, if just for the sake of argument, that the outcome of the federal election depends on how the vote goes in Ontario.

Because that’s the way it usually goes, and nothing in the dynamics of this campaign suggests there’s a compelling reason to expect it to be different. Conservative Leder Pierre Poilievre can sweep all of Alberta and the best he’ll pick up is two Liberal seats. Ontario has 74 Liberals, more than three times the total for all of western Canada. That being the case, Poilievre has considerable work to do to if he wants the province to help make him prime minister.

Ontario figures now show Liberals and Tories in a dead heat, with New Democrats falling off a cliff. Polls, of course, are not holy writ, but the uniformity of the findings across so many surveys suggests its safe to conclude Poilievre’s standing in Ontario was never a love affair, but the result of a marriage gone sour. Ontarians didn’t favour Poilievre so much as they’d come to detest Trudeau. They wanted him gone, and if supporting Conservatives was the best way to achieve his departure, they’d make do with Conservatives.
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But Trudeau is gone now. The boil has been lanced. A Trudeauless Liberal party doesn’t annoy Ontario the way his ongoing presence did. Poilievre has to accept that reality, and retool his message appropriately if he aims to regain lost ground. Even as the election begins, there’s no real evidence he’s willing to do that. Tory messaging remains consistent: Liberals are all the same, a Carney government would be a continuation of the Trudeau government, Carney is just like Justin, after nine years of failure and disappointment why vote for more of the same?
Like it or not, Poilievre needs the province in his win column. In particular he needs to steal Liberal ridings in the narrow corridor bordering Lake Ontario from Niagara Falls to Oshawa that might as well be renamed the Liberal Horseshoe for all the presence Conservatives enjoy. Half the province lives there and is the reason Liberals have dominated Ottawa for so long. If Poilievre hopes too best Carney, he’ll have to find a way to do it there.
This is why our electoral system must be changed. That a tiny region of one province can determine the future of the whole country is just wrong.
 

Ron in Regina

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This is why our electoral system must be changed. That a tiny region of one province can determine the future of the whole country is just wrong.
It’s based on one person one vote & we just don’t live in that dog pile density wise through much of the rest of the country. I get what you’re saying, but this is the way that it is.
 

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It’s based on one person one vote & we just don’t live in that dog pile density wise through much of the rest of the country. I get what you’re saying, but this is the way that it is.
And why as a country we will always be divided . Go Canada .
 
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Would you prefer that each person in the GTA & GVA each got two votes to your one? Something like that?
Seems to me like they already do . I don’t really have thoughts on what it should be , but what it is sure hasn‘t been working and we are more divided then ever before . Having the Senate ,Supreme Court and the Governor General appointed out of the Prime Ministers Office does nothing for national unity .
 

Ron in Regina

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The Liberal plan, in action for a decade, is just tax, tax, tax and cancel or refuse to build pipelines. For the general population it is a lose, lose proposition. We are not exploiting our resources to build wealth and jobs, while we are taxed up our own pipeline.
…& now 10 days later during an election…?

For the Liberals, gone are the days of talking up NDP-driven policy (pharmacare, dental care) and gender balance. Even those policies and their politics aimed at putting Tories on the spot--the consumer price on carbon, the capital gains tax changes --gone and gone. Now it’s about (loosely defined) ‘fiscal responsibility,’ getting conventional and other types of energy to markets outside of the U.S. and breaking down trade barriers between provinces.

If that all sounds familiar, it’s because it is. The Conservatives were so successful in their opposition to the carbon tax and Trudeau, they will no longer be able to fight an entire election against them. They’ve been talking about getting oil and gas out of Canada for years, and though Tories will argue the Liberals won’t actually do it, the fact the now Mark Carney-led party is talking about it – even that is not something imaginable in this way just a year ago.

The next five weeks will be Carney trying to paint similarities between Poilievre & Trump, while Carney himself will try to ignore the fact that the Liberals that he’s now the leader of themselves have been in power for the last decade.
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The NDP will try to paint Poilievre as being to the right of them (that won’t be hard), & Carney claiming Poilievre’s platform as his own as also being to the right of the NDP, & thus they must be the same.

The difference being, the Conservatives are consistently consistent in what they’re saying & have been saying…vs the Liberals saying what they think they need to say for the next five weeks and then…????

The Liberals have stopped (within the last two weeks?) trying to out-Left the NDP, & are now trying to pretend they’re conservative for the next five weeks? Then what? What do they turn into April 29th?
 
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It’s based on one person one vote & we just don’t live in that dog pile density wise through much of the rest of the country. I get what you’re saying, but this is the way that it is.
Seems like all the good things are found in low density population areas. Farms, mineral resources, hydro power among them. The head office in a higher density population area is a convenience thing and would never go on it's own if it didn't have the other.

Unfortunately those in the low density population areas rely on the high density population area to represent them in parliament where the gap continues to grow in the wrong direction.

I would definitely be pounding the highways of Western Canada if I were the Green Party given the area is so misrepresented. The only reason I say Green is because the party is already there (for the taking) and know of no other that could ramp up in time. Change the name to Western Bloc as soon as possible.