Pierre Poilievre

Taxslave2

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There'd be SOMETHING in the middle ground sites about it but... nada.
Sadly, there really isn’t middle ground. There are some independent news sources that are center- right, and liberal paid media. And a few so far left they are in the twilight zone.
 
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Of course he does. It's just that his notion of "unbiased" is what sane people call "full-on MAGA."

Suppose.

I try - especially on this board - to get more neutral/middle/centrist reporting for things because I KNOW asshats like Jin love to claim "LEFTTARD MEDIA!" as an excuse to dismiss things.
 

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Nice to see you don't actually look for unbiased reporting. I'll keep it in mind.
That is what I look for. Unbiased reporting cannot be found in government financed news outlets. Nor will will you find anything trustworthy in leftist propaganda outlets.
 

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Suppose.

I try - especially on this board - to get more neutral/middle/centrist reporting for things because I KNOW asshats like Jin love to claim "LEFTTARD MEDIA!" as an excuse to dismiss things.
Then don’t post shit from hat goofball utuber you like to quote.
 
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Then don’t post shit from hat goofball utuber you like to quote.

Are you going to demand others stop posting from the extreme right?

Tax, when bringing up OPINIONS, I post Steve and others who give OPINIONS. (seriously, you have issues with Steve why? Because he actually talks sense? Makes you use your brain matter to think instead of blindly follow? How DARE he!)

Facts are a whole other source.

Sorry you can't tell the difference between them, mired as you are in the twisted right wing world of facts=opinions.
 
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Are you going to demand others stop posting from the extreme right?

Tax, when bringing up OPINIONS, I post Steve and others who give OPINIONS. (seriously, you have issues with Steve why? Because he actually talks sense? Makes you use your brain matter to think instead of blindly follow? How DARE he!)

Facts are a whole other source.

Sorry you can't tell the difference between them, mired as you are in the twisted right wing world of facts=opinions.
I’m not even really right wing. Unless responsible government is considered right wing. Count me as a fiscal conservative. No relation to some of the social conservatives in the US.
 
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I’m not even really right wing.

Really? A lot of the time you follow their talking points to a T, even promote them and deny anything else.

Unless responsible government is considered right wing.

There's responsible government - which personally I can agree with - and then there's the bullshit that's out there.

Count me as a fiscal conservative. No relation to some of the social conservatives in the US.

My politics changes with the topic discussed. I don't adhere to one side or the other in all things, because life is not that fucking black and white.
 

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U.S. President Donald Trump often talks about Canada. Frequently disparagingly, and lately menacingly. But it's not often he opines on the country's internal politics.

He broke from that pattern in a just-published interview with a U.S. conservative writer who asked him about the country's upcoming election.

In that interview with The Spectator, Trump is asked whether Canada's Conservatives can still pull off a win in the next election, despite the tightening polls.

Writer Ben Domenech asks the president about those polls shifting amid comments Trump has been making about Canada, which, Domenech says, the governing Liberals have "leaned into."

Trump's reply? Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre needs to more fully embrace Trump. (???)

"I think his biggest problem is he's not a MAGA guy, you know? I mean, he's really not. He's not a Trump guy at all," the U.S. president replies.

"Pierre, I just don't know. I don't like what he's saying about me. It's just not positive about me."
But…but this is from the CBC?

Trump lamented that many people talk tough about him, then learn to regret it.

"They all make that mistake. You know. They think they're going to be the tough guy and they're going to knock out Trump, and they end up getting the hell beat out of 'em."

The president then swerved off topic to once again complain about how the 2020 election was stolen from him, a falsehood he has clung to even after having won a second term.
Poilievre has talked about matching tariffs and pushed back on any talk about messing with Canada’s sovereignty, but he has never been rude or disparaging toward the President himself as far as anything I have seen or read.

Poilievre has been crystal clear on these points.

And he said in his Canada First speech on Feb. 15 that with tariffs “your consumers pay more, and your workers make less. Gas prices skyrocket. You turn a loyal friend into a resentful neighbour, forced to match tariff with tariff and to seek friends everywhere else. Both our countries’ economies will weaken, leaving less money for defence and security. And our enemies will grow stronger.”

Or “we trade even more” and “our workers make more” and “strengthen the border and up our military spending to 2% of GDP; we stop fentanyl, terrorists, supersonic missiles and other threats” and “both our countries end up safer, stronger, richer.”

Poilievre’s response to the President’s comments about him show how you handle this kind of thing. You don’t belittle fellow world leaders, be rude or talk over them if you get into the Oval Office. You just answer with a clear, concise and respectful message.

“We know America is the biggest economic and military superpower the world has ever known,” Poilievre said in his Feb. 15 speech. “We have been a good neighbour. We fought on the same side of the same wars. We paid with Canadian lives and treasure to fight for America, avenging the 9/11 attacks.”

“You have your grievances, and we have ours,” the Conservative Leader added. “But I ask, which other country would you rather have as your neighbour? If Canada is not your friend, who is?”
 

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Poilievre held a rally at RBC Place London just hours before he was to learn who he’ll be facing in the next federal election, which could be called as early as this week.

It was clear from Poilievre’s remarks to a crowd of about 2,500 supporters that he believes his opponent will be Mark Carney, the former governor of the Bank of Canada who served as an economic advisor to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
1741558285473.jpeg(No mention was made of the other three candidates: Chrystia Freeland, Karina Gould and Frank Baylis)

Carney claims three more years of deficit to invest in growing the Canadian economy, and then we’ll get right back to balance. If Mark Carney’s pledge sounds like something you’ve heard before, that’s because Justin Trudeau made a very similar commitment a mere ten years ago.

We spent a ton of money and ran up debt at record rates under the Liberals to get our economy growing again. This year alone, the federal government expects to spend $48.3 billion more than it collects in revenues. Meanwhile, Canadians are still waiting patiently for that return to balanced budgets.
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When the Trudeau government came into office at the end of 2015, our economy was producing $57,491 per person (in 2017 dollars). Today, nine years later, our economy is producing $58,951 per person (in those same 2017 dollars).

Boiled down, this means that Canadians are now a whopping 2.5 per cent richer, on average, then when Trudeau took office almost ten years ago. Wow. It would seem that the promised growth, much like the return to balanced budgets, somehow failed to materialize.

Have costs for pretty much everything increased in the last 10 years, including the carbon tax, which is…a tax on everything? While the government attempted to stimulate growth artificially by borrowing and spending money, tax hikes and new bureaucratic and regulatory hurdles countervailed this by slowing down private investment.

When we account for inflation, we find that the level of investment per person across all sectors of the economy (excepting the public sector) has fallen by 8%.
While Mark Carney may use different words to promote them, his plans to grow Canada’s economy with government spending and deficits are eerily similar to those put forward ten years earlier by the very prime minister he is now hoping to “replace.”
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Poilievre held a rally at RBC Place London just hours before he was to learn who he’ll be facing in the next federal election, which could be called as early as this week.

It was clear from Poilievre’s remarks to a crowd of about 2,500 supporters that he believes his opponent will be Mark Carney, the former governor of the Bank of Canada who served as an economic advisor to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
View attachment 27976(No mention was made of the other three candidates: Chrystia Freeland, Karina Gould and Frank Baylis)

Carney claims three more years of deficit to invest in growing the Canadian economy, and then we’ll get right back to balance. If Mark Carney’s pledge sounds like something you’ve heard before, that’s because Justin Trudeau made a very similar commitment a mere ten years ago.

We spent a ton of money and ran up debt at record rates under the Liberals to get our economy growing again. This year alone, the federal government expects to spend $48.3 billion more than it collects in revenues. Meanwhile, Canadians are still waiting patiently for that return to balanced budgets.
View attachment 27977
When the Trudeau government came into office at the end of 2015, our economy was producing $57,491 per person (in 2017 dollars). Today, nine years later, our economy is producing $58,951 per person (in those same 2017 dollars).

Boiled down, this means that Canadians are now a whopping 2.5 per cent richer, on average, then when Trudeau took office almost ten years ago. Wow. It would seem that the promised growth, much like the return to balanced budgets, somehow failed to materialize.

Have costs for pretty much everything increased in the last 10 years, including the carbon tax, which is…a tax on everything? While the government attempted to stimulate growth artificially by borrowing and spending money, tax hikes and new bureaucratic and regulatory hurdles countervailed this by slowing down private investment.

When we account for inflation, we find that the level of investment per person across all sectors of the economy (excepting the public sector) has fallen by 8%.
While Mark Carney may use different words to promote them, his plans to grow Canada’s economy with government spending and deficits are eerily similar to those put forward ten years earlier by the very prime minister he is now hoping to “replace.”
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When does the House sit?