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Here's the question. Is anything True Dope has done in engineering this debacle illegal?

Second question. . . jump forward a few years, and Prime Minister Poo-lover does the exact same thing. Do you approve or not?
 

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Not to mention that it will continue costing the taxpayers LONG after it's been built. There's only 2 high speed rail lines on the entire planet that operate at a profit. Canada's will not be the third. Along the planned corridor there is NOT the population density to make an HST service even remotely profitable.
 
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Here's the question. Is anything True Dope has done in engineering this debacle illegal?

Second question. . . jump forward a few years, and Prime Minister Poo-lover does the exact same thing. Do you approve or not?
Jail time illegal? No. But, no Parliamentary approval. No Senate approval. Just King Justin acting unilaterally which violates every principle of Canadian democracy.
I think it'll be easier to kill the contract than the media wags think.
 
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Ron in Regina

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Here's the question. Is anything True Dope has done in engineering this debacle illegal?
No idea. He’s operating in a parliamentary prorogue’d bubble so your guess is as good as mine.
Second question. . . jump forward a few years, and Prime Minister Poo-lover does the exact same thing. Do you approve or not?
I would bitch and moan equally loudly if that was to happen, figuratively demanding his political head on a pike & the next batter to take a swing at the situation.
 
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How did we get here, and at what cost to Canadians beyond the Quebec-Ontario corridor? Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, now a resigned leader holding onto power until a replacement is chosen, committed Canada to a massive infrastructure project that will lock future governments into obligations that are difficult, if not impossible, to unwind. Sources indicate that this $40 billion contract includes clauses specifically preventing future governments from canceling the deal without incurring steep financial penalties.

The decision bypassed proper parliamentary scrutiny. How does a caretaker prime minister get away with making irreversible financial commitments on this scale? Where was the oversight? Where was the debate? Where was parliament?…oh, yeah, right…prorogue’d at Trudeau’s request.
Canada is running the largest deficit in its history. Our national debt exceeds $1.2 trillion. Interest payments alone cost taxpayers over $54 billion annually, more than we spend on health care transfers to provinces. Inflation pressures households. Small businesses struggle. Housing is out of reach for many. Our currency weakens against the U.S. dollar. In the midst of this financial storm, the government locks taxpayers into a megaproject that serves two provinces?
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History teaches that infrastructure can stimulate economies, but only when the investments align with broad national priorities. The Trans-Canada Highway united the country. The St. Lawrence Seaway opened markets. This rail project is not comparable. It binds Toronto and Montreal more closely but leaves the rest of Canada watching from the sidelines.
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We need leadership that prioritizes projects with national reach — energy corridors, northern development, agricultural infrastructure, trade routes to the U.S. and Asia. Instead, we are shackled to a megaproject driven by electoral math, not economic necessity. Where is the traditional voter base for the Liberals located again? Future governments will inherit this project regardless of shifting economic conditions or public opinion. It is a textbook case of political entrenchment.

Quebec has repeatedly blocked pipelines that would have allowed Alberta’s oil and gas to flow eastward, strengthening energy independence and creating jobs nationwide. Yet, taxpayers from Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba and British Columbia are now expected to fund an electric rail line to boost Quebec’s commuter convenience. The double standard is glaring.
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Western energy? Too divisive, too dirty. High-speed trains in Quebec? Visionary, green progress. A prestige rail project will not improve our competitive standing. It will not lower energy costs. It will not strengthen supply chains. It will not bring back manufacturing jobs. It is a vanity project designed to buy votes.
Maybe we could sneak a pipe under the new choochoo?
 
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My Ninja pick was told he couldn’t run, I’m assuming ‘cuz of his Ottawa adjacent riding might detract from where Carney will be parachuted into…so I’ve got no dog in that hunt…& Trudeau/Telford/Butts didn’t want the competition for Carney’s limp wristed numbers once a real federal election eventually gets called some day.
Justin Trudeau, who in theory, has less than a month to go as prime minister, and yet, on Wednesday, he announced an out-of-the-blue plan to build a high-speed train between Toronto and Quebec City. A government press release said it will be “Canada’s largest ever infrastructure project,” will be called “Alto” and will cost at least $3.9 billion just for the “co-development phase.”
Etc….
Quebec has repeatedly blocked pipelines that would have allowed Alberta’s oil and gas to flow eastward, strengthening energy independence and creating jobs nationwide. Yet, taxpayers from Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba and British Columbia are now expected to fund an electric rail line to boost Quebec’s commuter convenience. The double standard is glaring.
(YouTube & “SHOCKING: Alberta Threatens to LEAVE Canada if Mark Carney Becomes Prime Minister!”)

Alberta hasn’t threatened to leave, but they’re not happy after another decade of another Trudeau…& unlike Quebec, this isn’t just noise…
79% of Canadians say no to Trumps 51st state rhetoric but who are the other 21% & where are they in Canada?
 

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Alberta hasn’t threatened to leave, but they’re not happy after another decade of another Trudeau…& unlike Quebec, this isn’t just noise…
The threats are working. It was never aboot 51 State. Its aboot a Canusa Union.

Military upped, border upped, pipelines resurected, non-economical viable LNG projects back on the table and best of all, Trudeau stepped down.

What good are we towards a Canusaco export oil market? 1 pipeline and 1 terminal to export. After 19 years since pitched and approve still no LNG out of Kitimat and still no shovels in the ground in Squamish.

Keystone XL, Energy East and Northern Gateway would have earned us the title as an oil nation.

Our GDP is based on real estate and the bubble will pop. Then what? Bankruptcy thats what.
 
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Thankfully Trump is so altruistically vague with his shifting goalposts and rarely saying the same thing day to day…with nobody knowing what he wants day to day, for our own benefit. Phew! Glad he’s on someone’s team.
 

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The threats are working. It was never aboot 51 State. Its aboot a Canusa Union.

Military upped, border upped, pipelines resurected, non-economical viable LNG projects back on the table and best of all, Trudeau stepped down.

What good are we towards a Canusaco export oil market? 1 pipeline and 1 terminal to export. After 19 years since pitched and approve still no LNG out of Kitimat and still no shovels in the ground in Squamish.

Keystone XL, Energy East and Northern Gateway would have earned us the title as an oil nation.

Our GDP is based on real estate and the bubble will pop. Then what? Bankruptcy thats what.
Kitamat is partly running. Woodfibre(Squamish) is being worked on right now. Cedar LNG is looking like a go. In about 10 years, at least 1 of them will have all the required permits.
 

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Kitamat is partly running. Woodfibre(Squamish) is being worked on right now. Cedar LNG is looking like a go. In about 10 years, at least 1 of them will have all the required permits.
Kitimat isn't running yet still a couple more months. 19 years is a joke.
 

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Still PM Trudeau is still PM at this point, still.
(YouTube & “Liberals in PANIC MODE! Three HUGE Scandals All Hit TODAY”)

But, balance in the universe, the Liberal leadership race (that Parliament had to be prorogue’d for by Trudeau) is having their first debate-ish in French in Montreal tonight.
 

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Canada PM Trudeau to announce resignation as early as Monday, Globe and Mail reports

I'm sure the anti-Trudeau people will be throwing New Years Eve level parties at this.
Big question, if true, is “Then what?”
The question should’ve been, “If true, then when?” Ugh…

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says his last day in office will depend on how long of a transition his successor needs?

Trudeau announced on Jan. 6 he would resign once the Liberal leadership race concludes, which will happen on Sunday March 9th, 2025.

Trudeau, who has served as prime minister since 2015, says the timing of his departure depends on the needs of the next leader???

“That will be up to a conversation between the new leader and myself,” he told reporters on Tuesday, after addressing the trade war triggered earlier that morning with the U.S.

“It should happen ‘reasonably’ quickly, but there’s a lot of things to do in a transition like this, particularly at this complicated time in the world.”
Does this “complicated time in the world” necessitate something like…Parliament…being able to function (?) or would that be a hinderance to liberal priorities?
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The question should’ve been, “If true, then when?” Ugh…

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says his last day in office will depend on how long of a transition his successor needs?

Trudeau announced on Jan. 6 he would resign once the Liberal leadership race concludes, which will happen on Sunday March 9th, 2025.

Trudeau, who has served as prime minister since 2015, says the timing of his departure depends on the needs of the next leader???

“That will be up to a conversation between the new leader and myself,” he told reporters on Tuesday, after addressing the trade war triggered earlier that morning with the U.S.

“It should happen ‘reasonably’ quickly, but there’s a lot of things to do in a transition like this, particularly at this complicated time in the world.”
Does this “complicated time in the world” necessitate something like…Parliament…being able to function (?) or would that be a hinderance to liberal priorities?
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Jagmet is back in his pocket , he is safe .
 

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Here's the question. Is anything True Dope has done in engineering this debacle illegal?

Second question. . . jump forward a few years, and Prime Minister Poo-lover does the exact same thing. Do you approve or not?
Forgot to answer your 2nd question, and no, I wouldn't approve. I'm not a partisan bubblehead. For example I'll never forgive Harper for selling Canada up the river to China until at least 2045. That was some dirty back door bullshit.
And hell, until Trudope came along Mulroney was the PM I disliked the most by far. Yet another Conservative. I liked Chretien though. Didn't agree with all of his policies but I could at least respect the man.
 

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Forgot to answer your 2nd question, and no, I wouldn't approve. I'm not a partisan bubblehead. For example I'll never forgive Harper for selling Canada up the river to China until at least 2045. That was some dirty back door bullshit.
And hell, until Trudope came along Mulroney was the PM I disliked the most by far. Yet another Conservative. I liked Chretien though. Didn't agree with all of his policies but I could at least respect the man.
Good. I'll hold you to that as best I can.
 
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In a lawsuit filed Tuesday, two Canadian citizens, David Joseph MacKinnon and Aris Lavranos, argued that Trudeau’s decision Monday to request the governor general prorogue Parliament until March 24 was made solely “in service of the interests of the LPC (Liberal Party of Canada).”
Still Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was entirely within his rights to ask the Governor General to prorogue Parliament in January, ruled the chief justice of the Federal Court in a first ever decision of its kind??? This got lost in all the Trump craziness…
Monday, Trudeau justified his request for prorogation — which coincides with the Liberal Party launching a leadership race to designate Trudeau’s replacement — due to the fact that Parliament needed a “reset” due to a “total lack of productivity” after months of procedural paralysis…due to…? Due to the Liberals refusing to handover unredacted documents to a parliamentary committee even after the speaker of the house is ordered them to do so.
In a highly anticipated decision published Thursday evening. Federal Court Chief Justice Paul Crampton ruled that Trudeau had not exceeded any Constitutional powers or conventions when he asked Governor General Mary Simon to prorogue Parliament for nearly three months in early January.

In January, Trudeau justified his request for prorogation at the time by arguing that Parliament needed a “reset” due to a “total lack of productivity” after months of procedural paralysis. He also said it would give time to the Liberal Party of Canada (LPC) to choose a new leader. So hiding proof of Liberal scandal(s) & pausing oversight from parliament is justified for a Liberal Party leadership race.
In the application for judicial review, MacKinnon and Lavranos say Trudeau’s decision to request prorogation is both “incorrect and unreasonable” because it prevents Parliament from dealing “quickly and decisively” with pressing issues and helps the Liberals avoid a confidence vote until the end of March.
Well, at least this decision is being announced 48 hours before Carney (as Trudeau’s hand picked successor) is coronated I guess, & not weeks or months afterwards.

The two challengers argued that the request prorogation was both “incorrect and unreasonable” because it prevented Parliament from dealing “quickly and decisively” with pressing issues and helped the Liberals avoid a confidence vote until the end of March.

They also argued that the request to prorogue was made solely “in service of the interests of the LPC.”
He was too chickenshit "like his party" to face the music in an election.
But then, why put Canadians first?
Crampton ruled the applicants were never able to prove that, though he acknowledged that they might find the circumstances surrounding Trudeau’s decision “troubling.”

Crampton also found that, absent any Charter breaches, the prime minister does not need to justify a request for prorogation. The court cannot review Trudeau’s choice of prorogation over dissolution of the House of Commons either, he ruled.
 

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It is high time for me to put an end to your sitting in this place,

which you have dishonored by your contempt of all virtue, and defiled by your practice of every vice.

Ye are a factious crew, and enemies to all good government.

Ye are a pack of mercenary wretches, and would like Esau sell your country for a mess of pottage, and like Judas betray your God for a few pieces of money.

Is there a single virtue now remaining amongst you? Is there one vice you do not possess?

Ye have no more religion than my horse. Gold is your God. Which of you have not bartered your conscience for bribes? Is there a man amongst you that has the least care for the good of the Commonwealth?

Ye sordid prostitutes have you not defiled this sacred place, and turned the Lord's temple into a den of thieves, by your immoral principles and wicked practices?

Ye are grown intolerably odious to the whole nation. You were deputed here by the people to get grievances redressed, are yourselves become the greatest grievance.

Your country therefore calls upon me to cleanse this Augean stable, by putting a final period to your iniquitous proceedings in this House; and which by God's help, and the strength he has given me, I am now come to do.

I command ye therefore, upon the peril of your lives, to depart immediately out of this place.

Go, get you out! Make haste! Ye venal slaves be gone! So! Take away that shining bauble there, and lock up the doors.

In the name of God, go!
Oliver Cromwell, dismissing Parliament, 1653.

Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.