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So the obvious solution is NOT to make it a crime to groom children for sex abuse. It's to find a group, some of whose members have groomed children for sex abuse, and outlaw the group and all of its members, whether or not any given member has groomed children for sex abuse!

Duh.
 
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So the obvious solution is NOT to make it a crime to groom children for sex abuse. It's to find a group, some of whose members have groomed children for sex abuse, and outlaw the group and all of its members, whether or not any given member has groomed children for sex abuse!

Duh.

Somehow I can see that making sense to people.
 

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But hey, with a stroke of Trump's pen, suddenly trans and other GLBTQIA+ kids no longer exist, so it's not a problem, right?

... right?

(JFC they really do want kids to fucking die, don't they... not like y'all weren't told though...)
The object is to keep kids from doing something stupid they will regret for the rest of their lives. If just ONE kid is saved from a life of misery, or worse, then it is worth it.
 

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So the obvious solution is NOT to make it a crime to groom children for sex abuse. It's to find a group, some of whose members have groomed children for sex abuse, and outlaw the group and all of its members, whether or not any given member has groomed children for sex abuse!

Duh.
Like teachers? AND Boy Scout leaders?
Yesterday's news. A Sooke elementary school band teacher was convicted of having kiddy porn. It didn't specify which sex of kids. Not that it really matters.
 

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The object is to keep kids from doing something stupid they will regret for the rest of their lives. If just ONE kid is saved from a life of misery, or worse, then it is worth it.

Okay, we can agree to that.

But why are you set against kids being kept from a life of misery or worse?

Despite your frantic belief that Trans people and allies "push" kids to be trans, that's NOT what happens. We side with kids being allowed to make choices and if those choices change, that's fine. If a kid THINKS they're trans, goes through the proper medical help and then along that road says "Well maybe I'm not" GOOD FOR THEM, none of us wish the kid ill.

But the same canNOT be said for you or others. You'd rather see kids abused or even suicide than be trans.
 

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Like teachers? AND Boy Scout leaders?

And Priests. And aunts, and uncles, and fathers and mothers.

ANYONE can be an abuser of kids.

Yesterday's news. A Sooke elementary school band teacher was convicted of having kiddy porn. It didn't specify which sex of kids. Not that it really matters.

No, it doesn't matter because the gender of the kids is NEVER the point.

And you know what? The school teacher probably wasn't trans either. But you lot love to say it's ONLY trans people, or imply it. And that's the effin' issue.
 
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Okay, we can agree to that.

But why are you set against kids being kept from a life of misery or worse?

Despite your frantic belief that Trans people and allies "push" kids to be trans, that's NOT what happens. We side with kids being allowed to make choices and if those choices change, that's fine. If a kid THINKS they're trans, goes through the proper medical help and then along that road says "Well maybe I'm not" GOOD FOR THEM, none of us wish the kid ill.

But the same canNOT be said for you or others. You'd rather see kids abused or even suicide than be trans.
Why isnt gay pushed on them? Because there is no longer noise to be made when a kid is just gay.

You need shaheeds for your jihad so you use kids as suicide bombers.
 
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Like teachers? AND Boy Scout leaders?
Yesterday's news. A Sooke elementary school band teacher was convicted of having kiddy porn. It didn't specify which sex of kids. Not that it really matters.
Yep. Just like trans people. Teachers and Scout leaders and clergy should not be allowed to read to children because, like trannies, some of them have sexually abused children.

GROMMERS! Run and hide!
 

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And Priests. And aunts, and uncles, and fathers and mothers.

ANYONE can be an abuser of kids.



No, it doesn't matter because the gender of the kids is NEVER the point.

And you know what? The school teacher probably wasn't trans either. But you lot love to say it's ONLY trans people, or imply it. And that's the effin' issue.
So the obvious solution is to make it a crime for anybody to read to kids!

It's the only way to keep them safe from GROMMERS!
 
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Despite your frantic belief that Trans people and allies "push" kids to be trans, that's NOT what happens. We side with kids being allowed to make choices and if those choices change, that's fine. If a kid THINKS they're trans, goes through the proper medical help and then along that road says "Well maybe I'm not" GOOD FOR THEM, none of us wish the kid ill.
This is where we differ. I am concerned about the kids. You are pushing for what adults want for certain kids. If they are trans or gay or elephants, they can change AFTER they finish puberty. Preferably after reaching the age of majority.
I also have a problem with treating what is a mental or psychological or whatever you want to call it trait? by changing physical characteristics . I realize that is the only option so far, but I just don't feel it is a good option.
 

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And Priests. And aunts, and uncles, and fathers and mothers.

ANYONE can be an abuser of kids.



No, it doesn't matter because the gender of the kids is NEVER the point.

And you know what? The school teacher probably wasn't trans either. But you lot love to say it's ONLY trans people, or imply it. And that's the effin' issue.
You sure are wrong a lot. Who, besides you, thinks that teacher is trans?
 

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This is where we differ. I am concerned about the kids. You are pushing for what adults want for certain kids. If they are trans or gay or elephants, they can change AFTER they finish puberty. Preferably after reaching the age of majority.
Isn't what adults want for kids usually called "raising children?"
I also have a problem with treating what is a mental or psychological or whatever you want to call it trait? by changing physical characteristics . I realize that is the only option so far, but I just don't feel it is a good option.
So you oppose cosmetic surgery?
 
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You sure are wrong a lot. Who, besides you, thinks that teacher is trans?

Well I didn't say the teacher WAS trans (fact is, I don't know, nor care, what gender they are, they're a POS that deserves a lot of things bad to happen to them, to be 'polite'). Perhaps you should have paid attention to the second sentence right after I said the teacher wasn't trans.

This is where we differ. I am concerned about the kids.

Buuuullllllshit.

You constantly prove otherwise.

You are pushing for what adults want for certain kids.

Wrong.

If they are trans or gay or elephants,

:oops: WTF, where'd elephants come from??

they can change AFTER they finish puberty.

Oh, so you're an "Elephant Whisperer" now to know this?

Preferably after reaching the age of majority.

Elephants have ages of majority?

I also have a problem with treating what is a mental or psychological or whatever you want to call it trait?

Okay.

So gender isn't a trait.

You're not the gender you are then, it's a mental/psychological... thing?

by changing physical characteristics .

Trans people are trans people regardless of any changes in their physical body. They're trans before they transition, if they transition, if they don't transition.

Hell, I'm under the "trans" umbrella and guess what; did not do any physical change what so ever. So... wrong again.


I realize that is the only option so far, but I just don't feel it is a good option.

What YOU feel doesn't matter in this, unless YOU are trans, which you're not.

But I will say that one sentence there of yours is EVERYTHING of why this is an issue. So thanks for that much, I guess?
 
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Today being a "young rebel" means being conservative.

Its changing. The fad is winding down like fisco did but like disco it wont completely go away for awhile.
 

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Well I didn't say the teacher WAS trans (fact is, I don't know, nor care, what gender they are, they're a POS that deserves a lot of things bad to happen to them, to be 'polite'). Perhaps you should have paid attention to the second sentence right after I said the teacher wasn't trans.



Buuuullllllshit.

You constantly prove otherwise.



Wrong.



:oops: WTF, where'd elephants come from??



Oh, so you're an "Elephant Whisperer" now to know this?



Elephants have ages of majority?



Okay.

So gender isn't a trait.

You're not the gender you are then, it's a mental/psychological... thing?



Trans people are trans people regardless of any changes in their physical body. They're trans before they transition, if they transition, if they don't transition.

Hell, I'm under the "trans" umbrella and guess what; did not do any physical change what so ever. So... wrong again.




What YOU feel doesn't matter in this, unless YOU are trans, which you're not.

But I will say that one sentence there of yours is EVERYTHING of why this is an issue. So thanks for that much, I guess?
Tell 'em Large Marge sent ya.