Trump is Doing Something Good

[Tecumsehsbones]

It is going to be a fun four years . We aren’t even two weeks in and heads are exploding all around us . But I am the stupid one . lol .

Indeed you are. Incurably so because you don't believe anybody can know anything you don't or have an opinion different from yours with any validity.

 

[petros]

If America were facing bankruptcy in a deglobalization way, what would things have looked like under Harris?

 

[Twin_Moose]

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Hmm. . . I wonder at what point the "process" will result in "record numbers" being removed.

In his entire first term, Trump never removed as many illegals per year as Obama.

Must be TrudeauBiden's fault.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Never thought you'd see me post that, didja?

Despite the fact that I have posted good things Trump did in the past.

But his performance in Davos has encouraged greater European independence from the U.S. That's a good thing. It's what we were supposed to be working for from 1945 on. . . a healthy, powerful Europe able to bear its share of the load.

Probably shoulda put more emphasis on "willing."

When he's done, there will be a call to Putin. "The Coast is clear."

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

When he's done, there will be a call to Putin. "The Coast is clear."

As may be. I see no reason why we should prop up a bloc that has more money than we do, and declines to spend it on defense when they have the example of Ukraine right in their faces.

Three EU members EACH have higher GDPs than Russia, and that's not including the UK. The EU has more than three times the population of Russia.

There's no reason it can't defend itself from Russia.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Ukraine is a glaring example of why we need to remain engaged.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Ukraine is a glaring example of why we need to remain engaged.

Ukraine is a glaring example of why the EU needs to step the fuck up.

NATO exists. Not going anyplace until Trump gets a wild hair.

The EU needs to step up its defense funding.

 

[Dixie Cup]

This is problematic.

I have known for decades that the Federal government is in need of a big shake-up. Every policy and program instantly gains a constituency that will not allow it to be shut down, regardless of how irrelevant it has become. It's a significant contributor to our debt.

Trump is breaking that mold.

He's doing it badly, with an eye to personal vengeance on those who have opposed him. . . but he's doing it.

Perhaps this is what it took. Probably, even. A dictatorial President with nothing to lose (term limited). And no politician ever has been any different: vengeful, touchy, and using any power granted against people who have pissed her off.

It may be that this is a Tom Sawyer moment. Those of you who read the book may remember that Tom conned the town boys into whitewashing a fence for him by presenting it as a desirable thing they they were not allowed to do. He faked reluctance to let them, and so got them into doing his chore for him.

Trump is "moving fast and breaking things." And so far the Democrats are looking awful conservative. . . shocked and outraged that the status quo is being challenged and changed.

I have a lot of specific problems with specific things he's doing, but all in all, I think that the destruction can be turned into demolition. If we're wise. Which we're not.

Still, interesting times, and maybe there'll be a few who have the sense and wit to get this rampaging pig in to harness shafts and use its energy to pull in useful directions. He's certainly stupid enough to be manipulated.

Is there a Democrat with the brains and balls and love of country to throw in with Trump and use his destructive energy positively, until the offended shriekers turf out said Democrat?

Naaaaah.

While I agree with much of what you say, Trump is far from stupid & he's not vengeful. He has stated, repeatedly, that his revenge will be success. The fact is that there are people who have been in power for far too long and are corrupt as hell. So, they're being investigated. Nothing vengeful about that.

 

[Taxslave2]

If you are going to say that, then will you agree that the Republicans and Conservatives have been taken over by far right ideologues for the same reason?

Not the Conservatives. The conservative party has always had the problem of religious fruitcakes butting in on social policy. The party has always been an uneasy alliance between fiscal conservatives like me, and social conservatives, who are often one trick ponies with no regard for the larger picture. Think TB's horseshoe. Of course, there is a certain amount of crossover. I think part of the problem is trying to be a big tent party to ensure getting enough votes to get rid of the loony left, with both groups doing it for their own purposes.
The Republicans have always been controlled by gawd. Sometimes they get one with some fiscal sense, but basically it is the party of gawd.
Often, I have wished for a Libertarian party of sorts. But the majority of the ones I have met have some really wackadoodle ideas too. They mostly don't want any social safety net at all.

 

[petros]

As may be. I see no reason why we should prop up a bloc that has more money than we do, and declines to spend it on defense when they have the example of Ukraine right in their faces.

Three EU members EACH have higher GDPs than Russia, and that's not including the UK. The EU has more than three times the population of Russia.

There's no reason it can't defend itself from Russia.

They dont have permission.

 

[Taxslave2]

No, they weren't. In fact, NO ONE WAS... and if YOU had paid attention, you'd know that was one of the conclusions.

And it's obvious YOU didn't read it or at least get an unbiased break down of it at all.

Yes, we know that was the conclusion of a party insider that was hired to whitewash the situation. After the liberal party had sufficient time to purge all the files that might go contrary to the paid for outcome.

 

[Taxslave2]

There's no reason it can't defend itself from Russia.

No one ever said they can't. The problem is they won't.

 

[Serryah]

Not the Conservatives.

And thus endith the conversation; if you refuse to acknowledge the reality, then there's no further point.

with both groups doing it for their own purposes.

That much is valid and true, yes.

Yes, we know that was the conclusion of a party insider that was hired to whitewash the situation. After the liberal party had sufficient time to purge all the files that might go contrary to the paid for outcome.

What evidence do you have of this?

And what evidence would it take to prove that what is in the report is true to you?

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Ukraine is a glaring example of why we need to remain engaged.

Maybe Ukraine will take over Russia.

It's happened before.

 

[Serryah]

Maybe Ukraine will take over Russia.

It's happened before.

Honestly I agree with everything you said about Europe.

I would love to see Canada push more into the Military too. Not just due to Russia or China or NK, but the US as well.

 

[pgs]

Indeed you are. Incurably so because you don't believe anybody can know anything you don't or have an opinion different from yours with any validity.

Really looking in the mirror and projecting as usual .

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Honestly I agree with everything you said about Europe.

I would love to see Canada push more into the Military too. Not just due to Russia or China or NK, but the US as well.

Trump has a habit of performing surgery with an ax, but that doesn't mean the surgery isn't needed.

 

[Taxslave2]

And thus endith the conversation; if you refuse to acknowledge the reality, then there's no further point.



That much is valid and true, yes.



What evidence do you have of this?

And what evidence would it take to prove that what is in the report is true to you?

An independent investigation not done by a liberal party insider.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

While I agree with much of what you say, Trump is far from stupid & he's not vengeful. He has stated, repeatedly, that his revenge will be success. The fact is that there are people who have been in power for far too long and are corrupt as hell. So, they're being investigated. Nothing vengeful about that.

Come on Dix, let's be serious.