Refugee/Migrant Crisis

Ron in Regina

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I was just kind of floating through this thread, on a trip in the way back capsule, and it’s not like we didn’t see this one coming either….
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This is from about seven years ago….2017. Then this is from today:

Trump announced Monday he would unilaterally impose the 25-per-cent levies on all products from Canada and Mexico on Jan. 20 unless America's northern and southern neighbours stem the tide of illegal immigrants and fentanyl.
1732785423151.jpeg…& Americans can watch Canada on the Interwebs and wonder what the Hell happened up there in the last decade.
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Speaking to reporters after Wednesday's first ministers' meeting, Public Safety Minister Dominic LeBlanc said "we can make additional investments to reassure Canadians that all of the measures necessary are in place and will continue to be in place" at the border. Oh goodie….1732766618461.jpeg
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A source said Freeland told the premiers that Ottawa is drafting a list of American products that could be subjected to dollar-for-dollar tariffs in retaliation for Trump's aggressive moves — as they did during his first term in 2018….or….how about stemming the tide of illegal immigrants and fentanyl, both coming into & leaving Canada??? I know it sounds kind’a crazy but…but it might be worth try’n something different like this???
After a decade of extremely divisive politics….I don’t think a “Team Canada” approach is going to work this time, not under Trudeau/Singh & the Liberal/NDP’ers and their gameplan anymore anyway.
 
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Nearly half of Canadians feel too many immigrants coming here: Study
A whopping 42% of respondents felt immigration is causing Canada to change in unlikeable ways

Author of the article:postmedia News
Published Nov 28, 2024 • Last updated 1 day ago • 1 minute read

In-house research by the Department of Immigration says 47% of Canadians feel there are too many immigrants coming into Canada, according to Blacklock’s Reporter.


The 2024 IRCC Online Tracking Survey, conducted over a two-week period in November 2023 that coincided with street protests and antisemitic crimes following the Oct. 7 Hamas attack on Israel, found the anti-immigration stance as high as 58% in Saskatchewan, 56% in Prince Edward Island, 52% in Ontario and 48% in Alberta.

“The research objectives of this study include assessing Canadians’ perceptions of immigration levels, the impact of immigration on Canada, Canada’s immigration system and priorities, and the settlement and integration of newcomers,” said the report.

When told the Immigration Levels Plan at the time proposed to let 485,000 immigrants into Canada in 2024, 56% rated it “too many.”



The report found 59% agreed “immigration has placed too much pressure on public services in Canada” while 58% agreed “Canada should focus on helping unemployed Canadians rather than looking for skilled immigrants for our workforce.”

Another 42% of respondents agreed immigration is causing Canada to change in unlikeable ways while 33% disagreed.

The report also found 63% agreed “that immigrants need to do more to integrate into Canadian society,” while 32% said “refugees take jobs away from Canadians.”

The survey says 38% agreed “refugees pose a risk to the safety and security of Canadians,” while 45% agreed “accepting refugees places too much pressure on public services in Canada.”

Findings were drawn from 2,279 people nationwide with Léger Marketing Inc. paid $49,991 by the Immigration Department for the report dated July 12.

In an Oct. 24 revision to its Immigration Levels Plan, Ottawa proposed to cut the number of landed immigrants to 395,000 next year.
 
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Terrorism 'complicity' emerges as key issue in Mohamed Harkat deportation case
The Canadian government has been trying to deport Harkat, a convention refugee, to his native Algeria for 22 years.

Author of the article:Andrew Duffy
Published Dec 03, 2024 • Last updated 2 days ago • 3 minute read

Federal lawyers say Ottawa’s Mohamed Harkat should be deported for “facilitating” terrorist acts — even if he did not personally engage in an act of violence.


The federal government has been trying to deport Harkat, a convention refugee, to his native Algeria for the past 22 years.

At a Federal Court hearing Tuesday, held to consider the latest step in Harkat’s marathon deportation process, federal lawyers said Harkat’s own conduct facilitated terrorist acts and made him complicit in them.

“The absence of evidence that Mr. Harkat committed any specific act of terrorism does not make his role as the operator of the guesthouse any less significant or severe,” federal lawyer Bernard Assan argued in a written submission.

Assan told court such guesthouses played “a pivotal role” in the secure, international movement of terrorists.

In December 2010, a Federal Court judge found that Harkat operated a guesthouse in Peshawar, Pakistan, for Chechen rebel leader Ibn Khattab and helped move mujahedeen fighters in and out of training camps in Afghanistan.


An immigration official, known as a minister’s delegate, then had to decide if Harkat, a convention refugee, should be allowed to remain in Canada given the “nature and severity” of his acts.

The unnamed minister’s delegate ordered Harkat deported, saying that, as a member of the Khattab group, he was complicit in the terrorist acts of feared Chechen rebel leader, Shamil Basayev, whom Khattab supported. Basayev was responsible for some of the bloodiest acts of the Chechen conflict.

The minister’s delegate also placed the Khattab and Basayev groups within the larger terror network — described as “a system of systems” — then allied with Osama bin Laden.

Tuesday’s Federal Court hearing is part of a judicial review of the delegate’s opinion that Harkat should be deported despite Harkat’s contention that he will be will be tortured or persecuted in Algeria.


Federal Court Judge John Norris must decide if that opinion, issued in October 2018, is legally fair and reasonable.

Harkat’s lawyer, Barbara Jackman, urged the judge Tuesday to quash the minister’s opinion, arguing it was completely unreasonable to deport a convention refugee to a country where he faced the possibility of torture based on links to terrorism that required what she called “a hop, skip and a jump.”

Jackman said the government had failed to establish any direct connection between Harkat’s work at the Peshawar guesthouse and any actual crime. Harkat worked at the guesthouse for 15 months.

“I don’t think that giving someone a bed contributes to a crime,” Jackman told Norris.

Jackman argued the government’s “hyperbolized” case against Harkat is built on speculation, not facts, about Harkat’s connection to terrorism.


The question of Harkat’s level of complicity emerged as a key issue at Tuesday’s hearing.

Norris asked Assan what “theory of liability, of complicity” the government was relying in order to connect Harkat to acts of Chechen or Al-Qaida terrorism that occurred in the years after he left the guesthouse.

The most notorious act of Chechen terrorism, the Beslan School massacre, occurred in September 2004, long after Harkat was in Canada, Norris noted.

In answer, Assan pointed to the “ripple effect” of providing terrorists with secure places to stay while en route to training camps or to Chechen battlefields. Such material support, he said, helped to sow the seeds of terrorism.

Norris is expected to hand down his decision in the long-running case sometime next year.


Harkat went to Pakistan in 1990 after fleeing his native Algeria as a university student opposed to its military-backed government. He arrived in Canada in 1995, obtained his refugee status and was arrested in Ottawa on the strength of a security certificate in December 2002.
 

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This is a rule for Canada? Seriously? Who made this a rule? Under whose watch?

The federal government faced calls Friday to scrap a rule that allows migrants entering Canada clandestinely to claim asylum if they evade the authorities for two weeks, with opposition MPs saying asylum claims should be restricted to official ports of entry.

Bloc Québécois MPs plan to challenge the government in the House of Commons on Monday, citing a Canada Border Services Agency intelligence document obtained by The Globe and Mail that warned the immigration department last year of a big rise in clandestine crossings both north and south of the Canada-U.S. border.

The intelligence briefing says smugglers are charging up to $45,000 to sneak people across the border, including using routes into B.C. and Quebec, with thousands then making asylum claims.

People fleeing unsafe homelands are entitled to claim asylum in Canada, but under the Safe Third Country Agreement with the U.S., they are usually sent back to the U.S. at regular border crossings. Those who manage to cross clandestinely can claim asylum after 14 days in the country and have their cases heard.
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Opposition politicians and provincial premiers have raised fears about an influx of migrants to Canada from the U.S. after president-elect Donald Trump threatened to deport about 11 million people living there illegally.

“At a minimum, the 14-day rule should be suspended temporarily until we know what we are dealing with,” said immigration lawyer Richard Kurland, who obtained the border agency’s intelligence document through an access to information request.

Under the Safe Third Country Agreement between Canada and the U.S., asylum-seekers must make their claim in the first country in which they arrive. In March last year, the two countries restricted the agreement, ending the ability to claim asylum after crossing at Roxham Road.

Both Canada and the U.S. can terminate the agreement with six months’ notice, and they can also negotiate changes. Immigration lawyer David Matas said “the agreement could be extended by removing the possibility of staying in Canada if one enters Canada illegally and remains hidden for 14 days or more.

“That would be even more effective in discouraging traversal of the U.S. than the present form of the agreement.”
 
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There were 87,000 more unemployed Canadians in November than in October and 276,000 more unemployed in November 2024 than in November 2023.

Canada added just over 329,000 jobs in the past 12 months. So, how come unemployment has risen so sharply? Because over the same year, the federal Liberals increased the number of immigrants it allowed into the country by 1.2 million. That means immigration is outstripping job growth by four to one.

You don’t have to be anti-immigration to see the fallacy of the Trudeau government’s policy. The Liberals may insist they are cutting way back on immigration, but so far they are still admitting about 100,000 newcomers per month.

Our economy, which is sluggish thanks to the Liberals’ anti-energy, anti-investment, anti-business and pro-tax policies will grow by under 1% this year. It would need to grow by closer to 4% to accommodate the number of immigrants, refugees, foreign students and temporary foreign workers the Liberals keep letting in.
Another inconvenient fact buried in the November job numbers: More than half of the new jobs created were in the public sector. Since public-sector jobs do not fund themselves, these government, hospital, school, university and other civil service jobs have to be underwritten by tax dollars or government borrowing, neither of which are sustainable sources of funding in the long term.

And while the rest of the country may love to hate Toronto, bad economic news for the country’s largest city is not good for Canada. And in November, Toronto got terrible economic news.

Last month, the unemployment rate in T.O. jumped from 7.5% to 9.2% — in one month!

And the news for the last year hasn’t been much better. In November last year, there were 258,500 unemployed in the Greater Toronto Area. This November, there were 379,900, an increase of 47% in just one year.

It is a puzzle how there can be any Liberal voters left in Toronto at all, yet there are. Toronto and Montreal remain the Liberals’ last two sort-of strongholds.

The most troubling aspect of all, though, may be that the Trudeau government seems to have no understanding of how its economic and immigration policies have created this mess, nor any understanding of how their increases in the size of government and the level of taxation are making it harder and harder for Canada’s economy to climb out of the hole they have dug.

Moreover, if their floodgate immigration policy leads to the incoming U.S. administration slapping a 25% tariff on goods from Canada, the Liberals’ mismanagement of the economy and immigration could land us in a recession or even a depression.

This is the dumbest, most incompetent government in my lifetime. The Liberals and New Democrats, who have propped up Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s government for so long, need to be punished at the polls.
 

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Police search for three men who escaped from immigration detention in Quebec
The Chilean nationals fled the Laval Immigration Holding Centre on Saturday night and had not been located as of Sunday afternoon.

Author of the article:The Canadian Press
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Published Dec 08, 2024 • Last updated 1 day ago • 1 minute read

Canada Border Services Agency says arrest warrants have been issued for Bryan Ulises Moya Rojas, Diego Nicolas Flores Sepulveda and Daniel Eliseo Gonzalez Ihrig.
Canada Border Services Agency says arrest warrants have been issued for Bryan Ulises Moya Rojas, Diego Nicolas Flores Sepulveda and Daniel Eliseo Gonzalez Ihrig.
Authorities are searching for three Chilean nationals who escaped from the Laval Immigration Holding Centre north of Montreal.


Canada Border Services Agency says arrest warrants have been issued for Bryan Ulises Moya Rojas, Diego Nicolas Flores Sepulveda and Daniel Eliseo Gonzalez Ihrig after they left the facility Saturday night.

The men are 30, 36 and 29 years old, and CBSA did not say how they escaped or why they were detained.

They are asking anyone with information to contact the Sûreté du Québec and not try to apprehend the escapees themselves.

A SQ spokesperson confirmed an investigation was continuing, adding the men hadn’t been located as of Sunday afternoon.
 

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CBSA lost track of nearly 30,000 people wanted for deportation orders
Of the 457,646 people in Canada's deportation pipeline, 29,730 failed to appear for their removal proceedings and cannot be located

Author of the article:Bryan Passifiume
Published Dec 10, 2024 • Last updated 12 hours ago • 3 minute read

OTTAWA — Nearly 30,000 individuals wanted for deportation are currently at large in Canada, newly-released documents suggest.


In a response to an order paper question filed by Fort McMurray-Cold Lake MP Laila Goodridge on deportation cases currently before the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA), 29,731 people are listed as “wanted” by immigration authorities — described as those who failed to appear for deportation proceedings, including those with immigration warrants issued against them.

The vast majority — 21,325 — went missing from Ontario, the largest cohort of immigration absconders in the country.

As Canada’s affordability crisis, plus threats of punitive tariffs from U.S. President-elect Donald Trump, has the federal government rethinking Canada’s problematic and ineffective border policy, the Trudeau Liberals’ plans on slowing Canada’s record population growth and tightening our immigration space involves relying on the voluntary departure of nearly 2.4 million people over the next two years.


In October, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced plans to cut the number of permanent residents coming into Canada from current targets of 500,000 — down to 395,000 next year and 380,000 by 2026.



According to the newly-released data, there are 457,646 people in various stages of being deported from Canada as of Oct. 21 — 27,675 people are listed in the “working” category, or those in the final stages of the removal process; 378,320 people being “monitored,” or those awaiting refugee status decisions, pending permanent status resident or facing “unenforceable” removal orders; 20,921 people granted a stay from removal proceedings; and 29,730 who were ordered removed but their location isn’t known.


After Ontario, Quebec saw the most people wanted by the CBSA with 6,109, followed by 1,390 in British Columbia, 705 for Alberta, and between 0 and 100 for other provinces and territories.

Of those who have already been successfully deported, Mexicans represent the largest number, with 7,622 people.

That’s followed by 3,955 Indians, 1,785 Americans, 1,516 people from China, 864 from Pakistan, 858 Nigerians and 794 Colombians.

Other notable numbers include 26 people with unknown citizenship, 83 people who are stateless, 13 Palestinians, 24 North Koreans and 56 Russians.

Those numbers are not exact, as CBSA withheld deportation numbers under five out of privacy concerns.

While threats of mass deportations have played a large role in the incoming Trump White House’s border policy south of the border, it seems Canada has been reluctant to go that route — relying instead on visa-holders and temporary residents on voluntarily leaving once their time in Canada has expired.


Foreign nationals are “expected to respect the conditions of their entry and depart at the end” of their stay, a CBSA spokesperson told Bloomberg News earlier this week. When it becomes aware of someone who’s failed to do so, the agency may seek an exclusion order, with detention seen as a “measure of last resort.”

A CBSA spokesperson said that their officers may issue arrest warrants if there’s reasonable grounds to believe the person is inadmissible, may pose a danger or is unlikely to voluntarily attend mandatory appearances.

“CBSA officers also regularly review warrants to identify new leads in an effort to locate wanted individuals or confirm that they are no longer in Canada,” the spokesperson said.

“Individuals subject to immigration enforcement have incentive not to be found and may rely on family and community members to shelter them. In addition, some individuals may resort to using alternate identities to avoid detection.”

Conservative Immigration Critic Tom Kmiec called the numbers a shocking failure that puts the safety of Canadians at risk.

“Justin Trudeau and his incompetent Ministers have yet again proven they have broken our immigration system,” he said. “This comes after they printed tens of thousands of fraudulent student visas, did nothing about Roxham road for six years, and relaxed visitor visa requirements, resulting in a sharp hike in asylum claims at our airports.”

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CBSA lost track of nearly 30,000 people wanted for deportation orders
Of the 457,646 people in Canada's deportation pipeline, 29,730 failed to appear for their removal proceedings and cannot be located

Author of the article:Bryan Passifiume
Published Dec 10, 2024 • Last updated 12 hours ago • 3 minute read

OTTAWA — Nearly 30,000 individuals wanted for deportation are currently at large in Canada, newly-released documents suggest.


In a response to an order paper question filed by Fort McMurray-Cold Lake MP Laila Goodridge on deportation cases currently before the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA), 29,731 people are listed as “wanted” by immigration authorities — described as those who failed to appear for deportation proceedings, including those with immigration warrants issued against them.

The vast majority — 21,325 — went missing from Ontario, the largest cohort of immigration absconders in the country.

As Canada’s affordability crisis, plus threats of punitive tariffs from U.S. President-elect Donald Trump, has the federal government rethinking Canada’s problematic and ineffective border policy, the Trudeau Liberals’ plans on slowing Canada’s record population growth and tightening our immigration space involves relying on the voluntary departure of nearly 2.4 million people over the next two years.


In October, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced plans to cut the number of permanent residents coming into Canada from current targets of 500,000 — down to 395,000 next year and 380,000 by 2026.



According to the newly-released data, there are 457,646 people in various stages of being deported from Canada as of Oct. 21 — 27,675 people are listed in the “working” category, or those in the final stages of the removal process; 378,320 people being “monitored,” or those awaiting refugee status decisions, pending permanent status resident or facing “unenforceable” removal orders; 20,921 people granted a stay from removal proceedings; and 29,730 who were ordered removed but their location isn’t known.


After Ontario, Quebec saw the most people wanted by the CBSA with 6,109, followed by 1,390 in British Columbia, 705 for Alberta, and between 0 and 100 for other provinces and territories.

Of those who have already been successfully deported, Mexicans represent the largest number, with 7,622 people.

That’s followed by 3,955 Indians, 1,785 Americans, 1,516 people from China, 864 from Pakistan, 858 Nigerians and 794 Colombians.

Other notable numbers include 26 people with unknown citizenship, 83 people who are stateless, 13 Palestinians, 24 North Koreans and 56 Russians.

Those numbers are not exact, as CBSA withheld deportation numbers under five out of privacy concerns.

While threats of mass deportations have played a large role in the incoming Trump White House’s border policy south of the border, it seems Canada has been reluctant to go that route — relying instead on visa-holders and temporary residents on voluntarily leaving once their time in Canada has expired.


Foreign nationals are “expected to respect the conditions of their entry and depart at the end” of their stay, a CBSA spokesperson told Bloomberg News earlier this week. When it becomes aware of someone who’s failed to do so, the agency may seek an exclusion order, with detention seen as a “measure of last resort.”

A CBSA spokesperson said that their officers may issue arrest warrants if there’s reasonable grounds to believe the person is inadmissible, may pose a danger or is unlikely to voluntarily attend mandatory appearances.

“CBSA officers also regularly review warrants to identify new leads in an effort to locate wanted individuals or confirm that they are no longer in Canada,” the spokesperson said.

“Individuals subject to immigration enforcement have incentive not to be found and may rely on family and community members to shelter them. In addition, some individuals may resort to using alternate identities to avoid detection.”

Conservative Immigration Critic Tom Kmiec called the numbers a shocking failure that puts the safety of Canadians at risk.

“Justin Trudeau and his incompetent Ministers have yet again proven they have broken our immigration system,” he said. “This comes after they printed tens of thousands of fraudulent student visas, did nothing about Roxham road for six years, and relaxed visitor visa requirements, resulting in a sharp hike in asylum claims at our airports.”

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Try looking for them in the US. Canada is and always will be a stepping stone to get into the US
 

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“If.” You can’t count which can’t verify. You can’t have a scoreboard based on “if’s” so you can’t track it so you have no idea.
It is largely an accidemic exercise anyway, since the immigration department hase no ideal of how many illegals there are In the country. Or hw many of the ones that they think have overstayed their visas have gone home without reporting in either.
 
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Mexican migrant in U.S. accused of sexually abusing multiple children
Author of the article:postmedia News
Published Dec 11, 2024 • Last updated 20 hours ago • 2 minute read

A Mexican migrant in the United States illegally was arrested in Louisiana last month after being accused of sexually abusing multiple children in Texas.


The Montgomery County Sheriff’s Office, near Houston, announced the arrest of 49-year-old Jose Luis Briseno on Nov. 21 after receiving help from the U.S. Marshal’s Fugitive Task Force in Louisiana.

Police say the accused has a history with Immigration and Customs Enforcement and is confirmed to be in the United States illegally.

He was extradited to Texas and is being held in custody.

According to court documents obtained by the New York Post, Briseno allegedly touched at least two young girls on at least three occasions while he cut hair at a Texas barber shop.

One victim alleged that he threatened to pull his gun on her family in early November and then gave her $13 to keep quiet.

The same girl told authorities that he sexually abused her a second time later that day at a nearby home while he was shooting cans with a BB gun in the backyard.


He promised to purchase a toy for the victim “to not say a word,” the court document alleged.


Later, the accused bought some toys for children at a nearby residence, but told them the gifts didn’t have batteries. He managed to load four children in his vehicle so that they could go to the store to purchase the batteries.

However, the children were driven to his home instead where he asked the earlier victim to help him find batteries inside the residence.

That’s when the victim was sexually abused a third time by the man after the girl begged him to not do it again, court records said.

According to police, the accused recorded the abuse on his phone.

Briseno is also alleged to have sexually abused another child after luring her into his car to look for money at his home to buy batteries for toys.



The child was brought to his home where she was abused and told the man to stop, according to the court filings.

Police said Briseno, before he fled to Louisiana, is also accused of stealing thousands of dollars from his family’s business.

According to The Post, Briseno migrated to the U.S. illegally in 2004. A decade later, he was convicted of several crimes, including domestic assault, in San Antonio. He was sentenced to 112 days and fined $500.
 

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Millions of immigrants might have to leave Canada next year​


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As nearly five million temporary permits expire by 2025, Canadian immigration officials expect most holders to leave voluntarily, with the CBSA enforcing laws against overstays. Immigration Minister Marc Miller also addressed a reduction in immigration targets, including a 21% decrease in permanent residents and cuts to temporary workers and international students, aimed at easing pressures on housing and social services.​


By ET Online
Last Updated: Dec 01, 2024

As nearly as five million temporary permits are set to expire by the end of 2025, Canadian immigration officials anticipate that most holders will leave the country voluntarily, Immigration Minister Marc Miller told the Commons immigration committee earlier this week, as per reports.

Conservative MP Tom Kmiec questioned Immigration Minister Marc Miller about the 4.9 million temporary visa holders whose permits are set to expire, asking how the government will ensure they leave the country. Miller responded that many visa holders are expected to depart voluntarily, with the Canadian Border Services Agency (CBSA) working to enforce immigration laws against those who overstay. Kmiec also raised concerns about the 766,000 study permits expiring by December 2025, asking if CBSA would track them all. Miller clarified that some students may renew their permits or apply for post-graduate work permits, providing options for staying in Canada longer.

Changes in the Immigration System

As part of the new policy, the Trudeau government has introduced significant reductions in the number of both permanent and temporary residents entering Canada over the next three years. These changes come as the government faces mounting scrutiny, especially with elections approaching next year. According to the new immigration levels plan, the target for permanent residents will be reduced from 500,000 to 395,000 in 2025, a 21% decrease.

The number of temporary workers and international students will also see reductions. By 2026, the number of temporary foreign workers is expected to drop by over 40%, and the target for international students will decrease by 10%. These moves are designed to slow the growth of Canada's population and allow the country's infrastructure to catch up with the increased demand for housing, healthcare, and social services.

 

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Millions of immigrants might have to leave Canada next year​


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Synopsis

As nearly five million temporary permits expire by 2025, Canadian immigration officials expect most holders to leave voluntarily, with the CBSA enforcing laws against overstays. Immigration Minister Marc Miller also addressed a reduction in immigration targets, including a 21% decrease in permanent residents and cuts to temporary workers and international students, aimed at easing pressures on housing and social services.​


By ET Online
Last Updated: Dec 01, 2024

As nearly as five million temporary permits are set to expire by the end of 2025, Canadian immigration officials anticipate that most holders will leave the country voluntarily, Immigration Minister Marc Miller told the Commons immigration committee earlier this week, as per reports.

Conservative MP Tom Kmiec questioned Immigration Minister Marc Miller about the 4.9 million temporary visa holders whose permits are set to expire, asking how the government will ensure they leave the country. Miller responded that many visa holders are expected to depart voluntarily, with the Canadian Border Services Agency (CBSA) working to enforce immigration laws against those who overstay. Kmiec also raised concerns about the 766,000 study permits expiring by December 2025, asking if CBSA would track them all. Miller clarified that some students may renew their permits or apply for post-graduate work permits, providing options for staying in Canada longer.

Changes in the Immigration System

As part of the new policy, the Trudeau government has introduced significant reductions in the number of both permanent and temporary residents entering Canada over the next three years. These changes come as the government faces mounting scrutiny, especially with elections approaching next year. According to the new immigration levels plan, the target for permanent residents will be reduced from 500,000 to 395,000 in 2025, a 21% decrease.

The number of temporary workers and international students will also see reductions. By 2026, the number of temporary foreign workers is expected to drop by over 40%, and the target for international students will decrease by 10%. These moves are designed to slow the growth of Canada's population and allow the country's infrastructure to catch up with the increased demand for housing, healthcare, and social services.

….or not. If not, then what?
…Canadian immigration officials anticipate that most holders will leave the country voluntarily, Immigration Minister Marc Miller told the Commons immigration committee earlier this week…
…& if they don’t?
 

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With the damage to our economy caused by turdOWE's poor policies, why would any of them want to stay?
If they don’t…& Canada is 41 million people include the 5 million in question…that’s more that 12% of the entire population of the country. Call it 1 in 8 people in the nation. I’m just thinking of the logistics involved in the cleanup for the adults after the NDP/Liberals & Liberal/NDPs are on the opposition side of the isle.
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Seriously though, what if they just say no? Or what if the common thread is, “You want me gone? Then you pay for it!” Would that be 5+million environmentally friendly air fare tickets to all over the globe?

I’m just gonna pull a number out of my butt and say the average Canadian commercial airliner to carry 250 passengers? Something like that? Assuming each flight is full of just people going home from Canada after their visas have expired….thats what? 20,000 flights by itself?

How many flights depart Canada for international destinations annually? I go to the government website with that exact question and here’s the result:
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…etc…so let’s just make up the numbers. Call it uneducated guesses.

Let’s take 20,000 flights for all 5,000,000 folks to fit onto, & divide that by 365.25 day in a year for, so call that only an average of 55 flights/day in a year. For these international departure flights, let’s assume they have to leave from the major hub centres in Canada like Halifax, Montreal, Toronto, Ottawa, Winnipeg, Calgary, Edmonton, &/or Vancouver…& that makes it only about 7 exit flights from each of the 8 above centres on average every day for an entire year.

Now, if we’re trying to empty out that 5 million people, I’m assuming these flights would go over loaded and come back empty-ish. That sounds expensive, but it is what it is….& all of these people would have to be transported to these hubs, and housed and fed, and so on and so forth until they depart…. But let’s say if we can keep the cost down to just an average of $2500.00 in Canadian Pesos/head…x that 5,000,000 people…for a cost of just 12.5 BILLION dollars (plus the bureaucracy cost to make this happen).

The remaining 36 million Canadians would have to eat that cost in a year, so that would work out too just $350 for every man, woman and child left in Canada (& the cost of the bureaucracy) regardless of whether or not they pay taxes. We are currently on the cusp of cutting checks of our own money (or borrowed money or nonexistent money) to everyone & their dogs via the Liberal/NDP/Bloc handout scheme in April 2025?
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Why doesn’t the government keep that hand out of $250/head, and dump it into the Enforcement of actually making the above happen as opposed to wishful thinking?
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What if the receiving countries say, “Thanks but no thanks. We’ll take a pass on accepting these folks back.” Then what? Some won’t but some might.
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Can you imagine trying to enforce 5,000,000 Canada wide warrants for 1/8th the number of people in the entire country for deportation? 5,000,000 appeals to be paid for if/when these people are found, assuming that they want to be found? What if after 5 million appeals on deportations, there’s 5 million claims of asylum that need to be sorted out?