Liberals bring out the Knives

[Ron in Regina]

Marc Miller says the attempt to oust Justin Trudeau as Liberal Leader and Prime Minister is “the most passive-aggressive, weak type of display of questioning of leadership I’ve ever seen.”

Miller is right to describe this attempted coup in disdainful terms, not because Trudeau shouldn’t step down, but because it’s so pathetic.

Miller – a longtime friend of Trudeau, one of the groomsmen in his wedding party and, of course, the current immigration minister – clearly has a different view of the PM than I do. But on the feeble attempt to remove the leader, we agree.

That the rebel group within caucus hasn’t gone public despite months of whispering and now more than a week of speculation about a letter demanding Trudeau resigns speaks volumes about these MPs. Of course, it speaks volumes in very hushed, quiet, fearful, secretive tones at a level barely perceptible to the human ear, but that’s the volume they are plotting at.

LILLEY: Liberal MPs plotting against Trudeau seem like cowards — Toronto Sun

Plotting in secret against a weak leader isn't courageous

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[Ron in Regina]

The simple reality is that for decades of both Liberal and Conservative federal governments, political power has been steadily bled away from MPs and transferred to the PM, his unelected advisers and the Prime Minister’s Office.

Consider the current campaign by some Liberal MPs to get Trudeau to resign, which sounds as if the party itself is having a nervous breakdown.

It has to be one of the weirdest attempted coups in political history, half-hearted, disjointed and poorly organized, with the organizers themselves running to the media to tell them, anonymously, what they’re going to do, before they’re ready to do it.

The entire fiasco sounds less like a coup than a massive therapy session for Liberal MPs, many of whom are in danger of losing the ridings they’ve held since 2015.

Indeed, many of the MPs calling for Trudeau to resign (mostly anonymously) are conflicted about what they’re doing, knowing they owe a huge debt of gratitude to Trudeau for rescuing them from the political wilderness in the 2015 election and keeping them in power for nine years.

But what has also happened since then is that what used to be the Liberal party has become a cult of personality built around Trudeau.

Unlike the Conservatives, for example, who have been leading the Liberals by double digits in the polls for months, the Liberal caucus has no way of forcing an unpopular leader to quit.

While there are other ongoing efforts to pressure Trudeau to resign, backbench Liberal MPs are nowhere near the starting line.

EDITORIAL: Liberal ‘nobodies’ try to take down Trudeau — Toronto Sun

It was Justin Trudeau’s father, when he was prime minister, who accurately described MPs as “nobodies” when they are “50 yards from Parliament Hill”. We can all see the accuracy of Pierre Trudeau’s famous 1969 quip in the current campaign by some Liberal MPs to get his son to resign as Liberal...

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Former Bloc Quebecois leader Gilles Duceppe thinks the writing’s on the wall for the federal Liberals — which is why no one is clamouring to replace beleaguered Prime Minister Justin Trudeau ahead of the next election.

Liberals unhappy with Trudeau 'don't have another choice': ex-BQ leader — Global News

Gilles Duceppe said no one is running to replace Justin Trudeau as leader of the beleaguered Liberal party 'because they know they will lose'

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[Retired_Can_Soldier]

I think that Justin Trudeau believes he has the right to decide when to leave, and too bad for the MPs in his party and the Canadian public.
I mean, really, who the fuck do we think we are?
He's the chosen one.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

I think that Justin Trudeau believes he has the right to decide when to leave, and too bad for the MPs in his party and the Canadian public.
I mean, really, who the fuck do we think we are?
He's the chosen one.

Ironically, with the rules the Liberal Party operates by, I think he is correct. I do not think they have an ability to review a leader and force them to a convention. Usually after a defeat, they are shown a sword and asked to resign or throw themselves on it but this is not a legal recourse just convention. So if Justin doesn't want to go, they can't make him.

 

[pgs]

Ironically, with the rules the Liberal Party operates by, I think he is correct. I do not think they have an ability to review a leader and force them to a convention. Usually after a defeat, they are shown a sword and asked to resign or throw themselves on it but this is not a legal recourse just convention. So if Justin doesn't want to go, they can't make him.

Yes they can , a simple vote can force an election . But do they have the stuff to do it .

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Yes they can , a simple vote can force an election . But do they have the stuff to do it .

It's political suicide, but they could vote against their party, and some could cross the floor.
Remember Belinda Stronach? The Liberals used her like a party girl and turfed her.

 

[Ron in Regina]

It's political suicide, but they could vote against their party, and some could cross the floor.
Remember Belinda Stronach? The Liberals used her like a party girl and turfed her.

Backing Trudeau as a Liberal might equally be political suicide at this point too though.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

Yes they can , a simple vote can force an election . But do they have the stuff to do it .

That will kill the government but not the leadership of the Liberal Party by Trudeau.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Multiple news outlets, including CBC, have reported that some Liberal MPs hope to present a letter to Trudeau, signed by caucus members, calling on him to resign. Last week, multiple sources said at least 20 MPs have signed the document.

But other than Charlottetown MP Sean Casey, who already has called on Trudeau publicly to step down before the next election, no sitting Liberal would publicly admit to signing the letter Monday…’cuz…?

Here's what Liberal MPs are saying ahead of an expected push to oust Trudeau — CBC News

As rumours swirl around Parliament Hill about efforts within the Liberal caucus to urge Justin Trudeau to resign as party leader, Liberal MPs are saying publicly that it's still an internal matter for the party.

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[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Multiple news outlets, including CBC, have reported that some Liberal MPs hope to present a letter to Trudeau, signed by caucus members, calling on him to resign. Last week, multiple sources said at least 20 MPs have signed the document.

But other than Charlottetown MP Sean Casey, who already has called on Trudeau publicly to step down before the next election, no sitting Liberal would publicly admit to signing the letter Monday…’cuz…?

Here's what Liberal MPs are saying ahead of an expected push to oust Trudeau — CBC News

As rumours swirl around Parliament Hill about efforts within the Liberal caucus to urge Justin Trudeau to resign as party leader, Liberal MPs are saying publicly that it's still an internal matter for the party.

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Only six vacations. Fuck me, the poor bastard.

 

[pgs]

Only six vacations. Fuck me, the poor bastard.

This month .

 

[harrylee]

This month .

Might as well get them while he can.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Sources inside the Liberal party say François-Philippe Champagne and Mélanie Joly have had conversations with colleagues about organizing future leadership bids, although Champagne denied to the Star on Monday that his calls were about organizing.

Former B.C. Premier Christy Clark suggested to Radio-Canada she, too, is interested in the job.

Mark Carney, who was tapped by Trudeau last month to advise the Liberal platform on economic policy, confirmed in a podcast interview with Liberal MP Nate Erskine-Smith that he is “taking steps” towards putting his name on a ballot at some unspecified point.

Polls have suggested the Liberals would have as hard a time winning the next election under any of the long-rumoured aspirants to Trudeau's job.

Asked if he thinks Carney should be leader, Long said no, adding the party should beware of any coronation, pointing to Michael Ignatieff's troubled tenure after Stéphane Dion cratered as Liberal leader.

"I think we need a wide open race," Long said. "We don't need to coronate anybody. I think that we have a lot of people in the party that would be wonderful leaders … That's what leadership contests are for. I mean, democracy is messy."

Trudeau still has “a lot of support in caucus” among the Liberals’ 153 MPs, Long admitted, but among voters he contends there is a "genuine, personal dislike of the prime minister."

Several MPs predicted Wednesday's showdown would fizzle. Sydney-Victoria MP Jaime Battiste said he anticipated a "normal caucus meeting." This is to happen tomorrow…

Liberal MPs seek 'reflection and change' with letter calling on Justin Trudeau to step down — Toronto Star

More than 20 and as many as 40 of the Liberals' 153 members of Parliament have signed a letter calling for Justin Trudeau to step aside as party leader, one of their signatories said Monday, with some believed ready to make the case at a national caucus meeting Wednesday.

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[bob the dog]

He's been a jerk the whole time but it is truly the mark of a broken system and yet we don't address the system that spends more than it has and paying top compensation packages is the big priority.

Will agree that Christy Clark would be better.

 

[Ron in Regina]

He's been a jerk the whole time but it is truly the mark of a broken system and yet we don't address the system that spends more than it has and paying top compensation packages is the big priority.

Will agree that Christy Clark would be better.

Ex-B.C. premier Christy Clark wants to be part of 'conversation’ if Trudeau resigns — Global News

Clark's statement comes amid a growing internal revolt from within the Liberal caucus to push Trudeau to step down and questions about the prime minister's grasp on his leadership.

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She’s one of the few names that doesn’t carry the Trudeau stank. “Christy Clark’s a very interesting candidate because she does have this record of fiscal responsibility which may appeal to some a little bit over right and centre voters that might think that Pierre Poilievre and the conservative team might bit too right.”

Former B.C. premier allegedly gunning for Prime Minister's title: expert — CityNews Vancouver

Christy Clark, a former B.C. premier may be ready to make a political comeback after dropping hints at a possible bid to replace Justin Trudeau.

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[Retired_Can_Soldier]

“The position of Liberal leader is not going to be available any time soon. [But] if that were to change, I would want to be part of the conversation on the future direction of the Liberal Party and of the country.” --Christy Clark

I think Christy would be a fool to take the reigns until after they lose the election.
Joly, Freeland, Guibeault, and Leblanc will all go down with their leader whether they want to or not.
Whether he is there or not.

 

[petros]

I think Christy would be a fool to take the reigns until after they lose the election.
Joly, Freeland, Guibeault, and Leblanc, are all going down with their leader whether they want to or not.

BC Liberals are considered small c Conservatives.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

BC Liberals are considered small c Conservatives.

Yeah, I know. I think Christy has a better shot, but timing is everything.

 

[petros]

Yeah, I know. I think Christy has a better shot, but timing is everything.

Can she bring the Fed party back down to reality?

Probably after being in BC Legislature with its own issues of screwball policies.

Definitely tho? Not sure.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Can she bring the Fed party back down to reality?
Probably after being in BC Legislature with its own issues of screwball policies.

If they do a major blooding, but even then, that won't save them before the election.
Christy should let Justin or whoever wants to replace him, dive head-long into the abyss.