UNRWA. It's like this...
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Hearts and minds that Israel lost?
Most recent Canadian polls I could wrangle say:
Polls Show Gap Between Canadian Public Opinion And Parliament On Israel
“People see what Israel is doing, and that should be a huge wake up call to Parliament.”
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What happened? They overplayed the holocaust card?
The ITU predates the UN by about 80 years. The UN did not create that organ. While the IMO has proven itself pretty goddam useless lately. The UN MIGHT have been a good idea at one point but it has long passed its best before date.
Meanwhile UN Security Council member Russia is executing and murdering Ukrainian PoWs and committing other war crimes while UN Security Council member China violates as many countries' territorial waters and EEZs as it can get away with. Not to mention drag-lining and trawling in the protected Galapagos waters.
At least Argentina's President Milei is willing to stand up to China's bullshit even if the pathetic UN won't. His Coast Guard sank a Chinese fishing vessel fishing within Argentina's EEZ. When the CCP demanded he explain his actions he demanded that the CCP explain THEIR actions fishing in HIS country's EEZ. The boat that was sunk by the way, after getting caught they shut off their locater, turned towards the Coast Guard vessel and increased their speed as if to ram it. Which is a typical tactic of Chinese fishing vessels when caught poaching in other nations' waters. Although that doesn't even begin to describe China's highly provocative actions in the international waters of the South China Sea.
Good thing the IMO exists to ensure maritime safety and deal with legal matters like violating maritime territorial integrity, eh?
Maybe Iran/Hamas/Palestine/Hezbolla/Islamic Jihad/Houthi’s/etc…with advance knowledge got the jump on the propaganda campaign out of the gates Oct 7th with signs printed & flags to distribute already in place (?) internationally & where able to turn the current before opinions where set? Tents already being purchased for “student” protest/encampments with the bulk discount in mind sorta thing?Hearts and minds that Israel lost?
Most recent Canadian polls I could wrangle say:
Polls Show Gap Between Canadian Public Opinion And Parliament On Israel
“People see what Israel is doing, and that should be a huge wake up call to Parliament.”
What happened? They overplayed the holocaust card?
The post-1979 Iran-speak is the language of the anti-Israel crowd it seems. It is interesting from the outside looking all over the place.
Term/Statute of limitations? Not outplayed in the propaganda front? Ok. Duly noted.
We're getting old. Shit happens.
A generation gap in attitudes could be undermining support for Israel in the West
Younger Canadians are more likely to describe Israel's offensive in Gaza as excessive
Evan Dyer · CBC News · Posted: Nov 09, 2023 3:00 AM CST | Last Updated: November 9, 2023
Younger Canadians are less likely to have actually known somebody who fought in World War 2, so the whole thing is completely abstract to them, not something that happened and involved people they may have known themselves.
World War II ended 80 years ago now. Everybody here on this forum would’ve known people that fought in that war, relatives, etc…but not the kids that are in college now. They would only know what they’re told.
I guess there’s a logic in that 3 generation time limit thing (biologically speaking) with great-grandparents being an exception across most species.
Its far beyond that. Those 3 gens ago all devoutly sat in Church every Sunday with the 2 generations before them.
They saw "The Holy Land" (no Israel yet) as the epicenter of Armaggedon. The had an emotion tie to keeping peace in "The Holy Land" all while figuring Jewish people would all convert over the short term to Christian and eventually long term.
That tie is now gone and its also frowned upon to have an "oppressive" religion tieing you down.
They see both Judaism and Christianity as the creators of their oppressive environment and the ill of Mid East
Yeah yeah. They do a fine job of oppressing each other too. Hamas oppresses the Palestinians. Hezbollah oppresses the Lebanese. Iran oppresses its own people. The Taliban oppresses Afghanistan. ISIS/ISIL will oppress whomever they can wherever they can. Arabs/muslims have been warring with each other and oppressing each other with internecine violence and sectarian violence since even before the Romans showed up.
Yeah, it's not like they haven't been poisoned by news media and social media propaganda and their own education systems.
You need to read my post again. You missed the point.
Poisoned? Is that how Napoleon's evil lost its shine? Should we be avenging his victims or nobody gives a shit because they have no connection? Whats your emotional connection to Israel and Zionism?
Does there have to be one? What’s your emotional connection to those that wish to end Israel and Zionism (?) to replace it with anything (probably not a “Palestine”) and Arab nationalism or Muslim Trans-nationalism?
Its obviously emotionally driven. If rational, and observant its near impossible to pick or want to pick a side.
Which side do I back? None. Have you heard me back anyonoe other than the real Jews who oppose secular Zionism.
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Joly's photo op reignites debate over Canada's funding of UNRWA
Author of the article:Bryan Passifiume
Published Sep 30, 2024 • 3 minute read
OTTAWA — Canada’s continued funding of a contentious UN agency has reignited the debate over Ottawa’s Middle East policy — particularly after Sunday’s death of a prominent Hamas leader who also headed the United Nations Relief and Works Agency’s (UNRWA) teachers union.
On Saturday, Foreign Affairs Minister Melanie Joly tweeted a photo of herself shaking hands with Palestinian Authority head Mohammed Mustafa on the margins of the UN General Assembly.
“I expressed Canada’s deep concern over the humanitarian crisis in Gaza and reaffirmed our support for UNRWA and humanitarian access into the region, as well as the PA’s reform efforts,” Joly wrote.
While Canada followed suit with the United States earlier this year in halting funding for the UNRWA due to the organization’s ties to Hamas, the Trudeau Liberals resumed funding in March — despite evidence that UNRWA employees took active roles in the deadly Oct. 7 attacks.
That reversal came in time for Canada to fulfil a $25-million pledge to UNRWA, part of a $100-million grant announced last June — despite Israel sharing intelligence with the government proving UNRWA’s links to terror.
That prompted a legal challenge by Canadian relatives of Oct. 7 victims, a lawsuit the government tried to quash last month.
UNRWA’s ties to Hamas were reinforced with the death of Hamas’ Lebanon chief Fateh Sherif Abu el-Amin, killed Sunday in an Israeli air strike.
Sherif, a key Hezbollah liaison in Lebanon, was among a handful of UNRWA employees placed on leave for his “political activities,” reported the Times of Israel. Sherif was also head of the UNRWA’s teachers union.
Invitations by the Sun to Joly’s office for a comment went unacknowledged.
Canada’s continued funding of UNRWA is a point of contention with the country’s Jewish groups.
“Despite repeated incidents, such as the case of Fateh Sherif Abu el-Amin, the Trudeau government continues to fund UNRWA with Canadian taxpayer dollars,” said David Cooper, vice-president of government relations for the Centre for Israel and Jewish Affairs (CIJA), a plaintiff in the aforementioned court case.
“In effect, Canada is subsidizing the salaries of terrorists. That is why CIJA is taking legal action to put an end to this misuse of public funds.”
Casey Babb, a senior fellow with the Macdonald-Laurier Institute and adviser to Secure Canada, said UNRWA’s insidiousness goes much deeper.
“UNRWA is an organization that has been hijacked and weaponized by Arab nations and their many enablers around the world, including Canada, who are using it intentionally to ensure a never-ending pipeline of Palestinian ‘refugees’ — the only group of people in history who, generation after generation after generation, get that claim,” he said.
“When you signal to people that they get to be refugees forever, you’re conditioning them to think they’ll be able to right some wrong and that wrong was the founding of Israel.”
Iddo Moed, Israel’s ambassador to Canada, told the Toronto Sun the Trudeau Liberals are already well aware of UNRWA’s connections to Hamas, courtesy of shared intelligence.
“(Canada) has everything they need to know, from our perspective it’s just untenable to continue to fund UNRWA,” Moed said, adding there’s no argument about the need to deliver humanitarian aid to Gaza, pointing to daily shipments of supplies, food and aid being delivered to Palestinians in need.
“It’s not just about a few apples, the whole tree is rotten to the core.”
bpassifiume@postmedia.com
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Author of the article:Bryan Passifiume
Published Sep 30, 2024 • 3 minute read
OTTAWA — Canada’s continued funding of a contentious UN agency has reignited the debate over Ottawa’s Middle East policy — particularly after Sunday’s death of a prominent Hamas leader who also headed the United Nations Relief and Works Agency’s (UNRWA) teachers union.
On Saturday, Foreign Affairs Minister Melanie Joly tweeted a photo of herself shaking hands with Palestinian Authority head Mohammed Mustafa on the margins of the UN General Assembly.
“I expressed Canada’s deep concern over the humanitarian crisis in Gaza and reaffirmed our support for UNRWA and humanitarian access into the region, as well as the PA’s reform efforts,” Joly wrote.
While Canada followed suit with the United States earlier this year in halting funding for the UNRWA due to the organization’s ties to Hamas, the Trudeau Liberals resumed funding in March — despite evidence that UNRWA employees took active roles in the deadly Oct. 7 attacks.
That reversal came in time for Canada to fulfil a $25-million pledge to UNRWA, part of a $100-million grant announced last June — despite Israel sharing intelligence with the government proving UNRWA’s links to terror.
That prompted a legal challenge by Canadian relatives of Oct. 7 victims, a lawsuit the government tried to quash last month.
UNRWA’s ties to Hamas were reinforced with the death of Hamas’ Lebanon chief Fateh Sherif Abu el-Amin, killed Sunday in an Israeli air strike.
Sherif, a key Hezbollah liaison in Lebanon, was among a handful of UNRWA employees placed on leave for his “political activities,” reported the Times of Israel. Sherif was also head of the UNRWA’s teachers union.
Invitations by the Sun to Joly’s office for a comment went unacknowledged.
Canada’s continued funding of UNRWA is a point of contention with the country’s Jewish groups.
“Despite repeated incidents, such as the case of Fateh Sherif Abu el-Amin, the Trudeau government continues to fund UNRWA with Canadian taxpayer dollars,” said David Cooper, vice-president of government relations for the Centre for Israel and Jewish Affairs (CIJA), a plaintiff in the aforementioned court case.
“In effect, Canada is subsidizing the salaries of terrorists. That is why CIJA is taking legal action to put an end to this misuse of public funds.”
Casey Babb, a senior fellow with the Macdonald-Laurier Institute and adviser to Secure Canada, said UNRWA’s insidiousness goes much deeper.
“UNRWA is an organization that has been hijacked and weaponized by Arab nations and their many enablers around the world, including Canada, who are using it intentionally to ensure a never-ending pipeline of Palestinian ‘refugees’ — the only group of people in history who, generation after generation after generation, get that claim,” he said.
“When you signal to people that they get to be refugees forever, you’re conditioning them to think they’ll be able to right some wrong and that wrong was the founding of Israel.”
Iddo Moed, Israel’s ambassador to Canada, told the Toronto Sun the Trudeau Liberals are already well aware of UNRWA’s connections to Hamas, courtesy of shared intelligence.
“(Canada) has everything they need to know, from our perspective it’s just untenable to continue to fund UNRWA,” Moed said, adding there’s no argument about the need to deliver humanitarian aid to Gaza, pointing to daily shipments of supplies, food and aid being delivered to Palestinians in need.
“It’s not just about a few apples, the whole tree is rotten to the core.”
bpassifiume@postmedia.com
X: @bryanpassifiume
IDF strike kills Hamas’s Lebanon chief, an UNRWA teacher; 3 PFLP men killed in Beirut
UN agency says Fateh Sherif Abu el-Amin, hit in southern Lebanon, was put on leave due to his 'alleged political activities'; attack on PFLP appears to be first in heart of capital
timesofisrael.com
Joly's photo op reignites debate over Canada's funding of UNRWA
Canada's continued funding of a contentious UN agency has reignited the debate over Ottawa's Middle East policy.
UNRWA chief denies knowing that suspended employee was Hamas leader in Lebanon — Reuters
The chief of the U.N. Palestinian refugee agency (UNRWA) on Monday denied knowing that its employee Fateh Sherif Abu el-Amin was a Hamas commander in Lebanon and called on states to push back against Israeli attacks on the agency.
"push back against Israeli attacks on the agency".
UNRWA chief denies knowing that suspended employee was Hamas leader in Lebanon — Reuters
The chief of the U.N. Palestinian refugee agency (UNRWA) on Monday denied knowing that its employee Fateh Sherif Abu el-Amin was a Hamas commander in Lebanon and called on states to push back against Israeli attacks on the agency.apple.news
Oh great, more JKK war crimes of attacking humanitarian aid?
So aid needs Hamas protection from Israel?
Who do they think they are? Russia?
EXACTLY! The JKK are the Slavic Jews.
Oh, by the way, there is something going on in Iran. The new president hasnt been very active in going along with the whack jobs.
The Supreme Leader whack job? The Iranian president's duties include the following, subject to supervision, policy guidance and approval by the supreme leader: Second in command (after the supreme leader) of the executive branch of government and chairperson of the cabinet. The deputy commander-in-chief of the Islamic Republic of Iran Army.
I don’t think the Iranian president has much choice, but to go along with the whack job.
President of Iran - Wikipedia
Joly's photo op reignites debate over Canada's funding of UNRWA — Toronto Sun
Canada’s continued funding of a contentious UN agency has reignited the debate over Ottawa’s Middle East policy — particularly after Sunday’s death of a prominent Hamas leader who also headed the United Nations Relief and Works Agency’s (UNRWA) teachers union. On Saturday, Foreign Affairs...
Joly takes shots at Conservative rhetoric during UN speech
Foreign Affairs Minister Mélanie Joly is asking members of the United Nations to counter growing political polarization abroad while taking shots at Conservative rhetoric at home.
Quelle surprise. The party that celebrated a nazi in Parliament wanting to reward an islamo-nazi "state" for 76 years of anti-Jewish terrorism.