Three Days a Week?

Ron in Regina

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Under a new policy announced in May, federal civil servants will have to spend at least three days per week in the office, while executives will have to spend at least four. Currently, civil servants are required to be in their offices only two days per week.

Federal employees' unions say most civil servants oppose the planned reduction in telework and report struggles with transportation and work-family balance. Many also say they're more productive when they work from home.

Hoping to cool the discontent, a senior civil servant is making the case for spending more time at the office.

Christiane Fox, deputy clerk of the Privy Council Office, told Radio-Canada the new policy will improve the overall performance of the federal public service and help individual civil servants advance their careers.
The government may also be hoping that bringing civil servants back to their offices can improve the public service's reputation — which has been damaged by a perception in some quarters that employees are taking it easy when they work from home.

"Of course, we can't ignore the perceptions and the comments that are made about the public service," said Fox, adding that is not the rationale for the decision.

Still, federal unions have vowed to keep up the resistance and are promising ongoing protests in the lead-up to Sept. 9. Civil servants failed to mobilize in large numbers against the new policy over the summer, but unions are promising a long-term fight.

"We've filed unfair labour practice complaints, we've filed grievances, so that's going to continue. And if this isn't solved and if we don't see a willingness to modernize and adapt on the part of this employer, this is going to be an issue in our next round of bargaining, which we're now preparing for in 2025," said Alex Silas, national vice-president of the Public Service Alliance of Canada.

A senior Liberal official has said that civil servants should avoid making waves about the new office policy because it could give “a political edge” (?) to the Conservative Party in the next election?
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{only 13.7 per cent of Canada’s private sector workers were unionized as of 2023, down from 19.0 per cent in 1997 (the earliest year with comparable Statistics Canada data), while 73.5 per cent of public sector workers were unionized in 2023, up from 69.8 per cent in 1997}
 

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Under a new policy announced in May, federal civil servants will have to spend at least three days per week in the office, while executives will have to spend at least four. Currently, civil servants are required to be in their offices only two days per week.

Federal employees' unions say most civil servants oppose the planned reduction in telework and report struggles with transportation and work-family balance. Many also say they're more productive when they work from home.
Why, this is just Commie-Nazi Librul trans groomer SOSHULISM!
 

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Federal Court agrees to hear case about public servants’ return to office mandate
Author of the article:Canadian Press
Canadian Press
Alessia Passafiume
Published Aug 30, 2024 • Last updated 1 day ago • 1 minute read

OTTAWA — The Federal Court has agreed to review the federal government’s decision to mandate public servants return to the office three days per week.


The mandate, which is set to begin on Sept. 9, was made by the federal government in May to the ire of the union tasked with representing the workers.

The Public Service Alliance of Canada took its concerns to the Federal Court, which agreed to hear the case in a decision released Thursday.

“The Federal Court’s decision to hear our case is an important win for federal workers fighting for a fair and transparent approach to telework,” said union president Sharon DeSousa in a statement.

“Remote work is the future of work, and we won’t let the government off the hook for breaking their commitments and ignoring the voices of federal public service workers.”

The union says the hearing will be a “major step” for workers looking for transparency around the decision to return workers to the office.


In a statement, the Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat highlighted the judge did not endorse the union’s argument in the decision, and that “the parties must argue this matter based on a full record.

“This decision means that PSAC’s application for judicial review will proceed to a hearing. This does not affect the decision on increased in-person presence,” the statement says.

“Both parties will have an opportunity to present their arguments at a later date. In the interim, we are not in a position to comment further on this case while it is before the Court.”

The union brought forward an application for judicial review in late May in an attempt to challenge the mandate.

In July, the Attorney General filed a motion to strike it on the grounds that it be dealt with through the union instead of the courts.
 

Taxslave2

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I can't see where any court could have jurisdiction on something like this. In the real world, if you don't like where your employer insists you work, you move on.
 

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Six things you need to know about the government's new remote-work rules
Unions are ramping up efforts to fight the new return-to-office requirements that come into effect Sept. 9

Author of the article:Catherine Morrison
Published Sep 04, 2024 • Last updated 18 hours ago • 5 minute read

The federal government is rolling out its new remote work rules next week that will require many employees to be back in the office at least three days a week.


Since the end of March, 2023, the Treasury Board has required public servants to work in offices for a minimum of two days a week. But that will change on Sept. 9.

Here’s everything you need to know about the updated mandate.

Who does the government’s new policy on remote work apply to?
The new directive applies to all core public administration staff employed under the Treasury Board, including full-time, part-time, term employees, students and casual workers. As of June, this included more than 282,000 workers.

The policy also applies to employees working at some separate federal departments and agencies. While a Treasury Board message to deputy ministers shared in May said that separate agencies were “strongly encouraged” to implement a similar remote work plan, some were divided on whether to adopt the government mandate, with some still exploring options.


As of mid-August, departments and agencies that had chosen to adopt the updated rules included the National Research Council of Canada, Parks Canada, the Communications Security Establishment, the Financial Transactions and Reports Analysis Centre of Canada, the Office of the Correctional Investigator, the Canadian Food Inspection Agency, the Office of the Superintendent of Financial Institutions, the Canadian Institutes of Health Research and the Canada Revenue Agency.

Are there any exceptions to the policy?
The Treasury Board’s directive outlines several potential exceptions, including for those hired to work remotely before March 16, 2020, for Indigenous public servants “whose location is critical to their identity to work from their communities” and for employees who, with the permission of their assistant deputy minister, live 125 kilometres or more from their designated workplaces.


A Treasury Board guide for deputy heads and departmental heads of human resources said exemptions will be made “on a case-by-case basis on a time-limited or longer-term duration.”

A previous version of the online policy noted that the government is no longer offering any group exceptions, including for call centre and information technology employees. It said the transition to the three-day minimum requirement may require more time for these employees and organizations to adapt, with full implementation expected by next year.

Can an employee be fired for breaking the rules?
According to the guide, when an employee deliberately fails to comply with a telework agreement, managers should consult with their labour relations experts and consider applying “relevant and progressive discipline” to correct the behaviour. It said typical steps included verbal reprimand, written reprimand, suspension without pay of escalating duration and termination of employment, but they could be taken in varying orders.


“Before taking any of the above measures, managers should ensure that individual circumstances are considered on a case-by-case basis, including human rights obligations, such as the duty to accommodate, or whether an employee has a reasonable explanation for the behaviour,” the guide said.

Why did the government update the policy?
The Treasury Board has argued that in-person work is necessary for team building.

In an email, deputy clerk of the Privy Council Christiane Fox said having staff work together onsite “strengthens collaboration within, and across teams and, increases opportunities for learning and sharing.” She said it was not strictly about individual performance and productivity, but about the public service as a whole.


“Public Service is a team sport,” Fox said, adding that working in person would allow new and young public servants to have more opportunities to build relationships, learn and be better prepared to take on more senior roles.

While the government’s motivation was to be as high performing as possible, Fox said the government also “cannot ignore the perception of the public service,” which was directly related to the trust and confidence of Canadians.

“The decision is based on the continuous assessment of the public service from the onset of the pandemic and where we are today,” Fox said. “We are committed to hybrid, however, we feel there is a gap in spending less time working as teams and we are addressing that.”

How are unions fighting the remote work mandate?

Several federal unions have contested that decision since it was announced in early May, holding rallies, filing complaints, encouraging members to submit grievances, sending open letters and launching petitions. They have stated that the decision was made without consultation and was unsupported by evidence, given that Treasury Board did not complete any studies on collaboration or productivity.

Unions have also argued that the government is catering to downtown business coalitions and to politicians like Ontario Premier Doug Ford, who called for federal workers to get back to the office. However, Treasury Board President Anita Anand has stressed that the move was not a political decision.

In early fall, the Public Service Alliance of Canada plans to ramp up its efforts to “fight back” against what it has called a misguided and unilateral mandate through a $1-million telework campaign. The union aims to use the national campaign to fight for telework in court and during contract negotiations, which are expected to begin again in spring 2025.


Federal unions are planning to hold a “rally for remote rights” on the morning of Sept. 9 at the Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada building in downtown Ottawa.

Last week, the Federal Court announced that it would review a case launched by the Public Service Alliance of Canada seeking to quash the federal government’s new remote work rules.

The Treasury Board has argued that it has the management right to choose employees’ location of work and to require them to report to their designated workplaces.

Are any federal organizations delaying employees’ increased return to the office?
Unions and employees have expressed concern about the new mandate, noting that there is a lack of office space or desks for employees to work in government buildings.


The Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) said in July that, while it was aligning with the federal public service’s updated hybrid work model, it did expect “some differences in the timing and application” of the new direction for some employees due to real property availability.

The CRA “is currently working diligently to identify existing space availability and areas where additional space may be required to meet its mandate,” the agency said in an email, adding that its plans were not finalized.

Jasmine Emond, a spokesperson for Statistics Canada, said the government agency wouldn’t be able to accommodate the three-day return to office rules for employees working in its Vancouver, Toronto and Montreal offices by Sept. 9 due to “a limited number of desks.”

“As a result, employees in these regions will continue with their 40 (per cent) on-site schedule until further notice,” Emond said, adding that the agency is working to explore space options alongside Public Services and Procurement Canada.
 

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Six things you need to know about the government's new remote-work rules
Unions are ramping up efforts to fight the new return-to-office requirements that come into effect Sept. 9

Author of the article:Catherine Morrison
Published Sep 04, 2024 • Last updated 18 hours ago • 5 minute read

The federal government is rolling out its new remote work rules next week that will require many employees to be back in the office at least three days a week.


Since the end of March, 2023, the Treasury Board has required public servants to work in offices for a minimum of two days a week. But that will change on Sept. 9.

Here’s everything you need to know about the updated mandate.

Who does the government’s new policy on remote work apply to?
The new directive applies to all core public administration staff employed under the Treasury Board, including full-time, part-time, term employees, students and casual workers. As of June, this included more than 282,000 workers.

The policy also applies to employees working at some separate federal departments and agencies. While a Treasury Board message to deputy ministers shared in May said that separate agencies were “strongly encouraged” to implement a similar remote work plan, some were divided on whether to adopt the government mandate, with some still exploring options.


As of mid-August, departments and agencies that had chosen to adopt the updated rules included the National Research Council of Canada, Parks Canada, the Communications Security Establishment, the Financial Transactions and Reports Analysis Centre of Canada, the Office of the Correctional Investigator, the Canadian Food Inspection Agency, the Office of the Superintendent of Financial Institutions, the Canadian Institutes of Health Research and the Canada Revenue Agency.

Are there any exceptions to the policy?
The Treasury Board’s directive outlines several potential exceptions, including for those hired to work remotely before March 16, 2020, for Indigenous public servants “whose location is critical to their identity to work from their communities” and for employees who, with the permission of their assistant deputy minister, live 125 kilometres or more from their designated workplaces.


A Treasury Board guide for deputy heads and departmental heads of human resources said exemptions will be made “on a case-by-case basis on a time-limited or longer-term duration.”

A previous version of the online policy noted that the government is no longer offering any group exceptions, including for call centre and information technology employees. It said the transition to the three-day minimum requirement may require more time for these employees and organizations to adapt, with full implementation expected by next year.

Can an employee be fired for breaking the rules?
According to the guide, when an employee deliberately fails to comply with a telework agreement, managers should consult with their labour relations experts and consider applying “relevant and progressive discipline” to correct the behaviour. It said typical steps included verbal reprimand, written reprimand, suspension without pay of escalating duration and termination of employment, but they could be taken in varying orders.


“Before taking any of the above measures, managers should ensure that individual circumstances are considered on a case-by-case basis, including human rights obligations, such as the duty to accommodate, or whether an employee has a reasonable explanation for the behaviour,” the guide said.

Why did the government update the policy?
The Treasury Board has argued that in-person work is necessary for team building.

In an email, deputy clerk of the Privy Council Christiane Fox said having staff work together onsite “strengthens collaboration within, and across teams and, increases opportunities for learning and sharing.” She said it was not strictly about individual performance and productivity, but about the public service as a whole.


“Public Service is a team sport,” Fox said, adding that working in person would allow new and young public servants to have more opportunities to build relationships, learn and be better prepared to take on more senior roles.

While the government’s motivation was to be as high performing as possible, Fox said the government also “cannot ignore the perception of the public service,” which was directly related to the trust and confidence of Canadians.

“The decision is based on the continuous assessment of the public service from the onset of the pandemic and where we are today,” Fox said. “We are committed to hybrid, however, we feel there is a gap in spending less time working as teams and we are addressing that.”

How are unions fighting the remote work mandate?

Several federal unions have contested that decision since it was announced in early May, holding rallies, filing complaints, encouraging members to submit grievances, sending open letters and launching petitions. They have stated that the decision was made without consultation and was unsupported by evidence, given that Treasury Board did not complete any studies on collaboration or productivity.

Unions have also argued that the government is catering to downtown business coalitions and to politicians like Ontario Premier Doug Ford, who called for federal workers to get back to the office. However, Treasury Board President Anita Anand has stressed that the move was not a political decision.

In early fall, the Public Service Alliance of Canada plans to ramp up its efforts to “fight back” against what it has called a misguided and unilateral mandate through a $1-million telework campaign. The union aims to use the national campaign to fight for telework in court and during contract negotiations, which are expected to begin again in spring 2025.


Federal unions are planning to hold a “rally for remote rights” on the morning of Sept. 9 at the Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada building in downtown Ottawa.

Last week, the Federal Court announced that it would review a case launched by the Public Service Alliance of Canada seeking to quash the federal government’s new remote work rules.

The Treasury Board has argued that it has the management right to choose employees’ location of work and to require them to report to their designated workplaces.

Are any federal organizations delaying employees’ increased return to the office?
Unions and employees have expressed concern about the new mandate, noting that there is a lack of office space or desks for employees to work in government buildings.


The Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) said in July that, while it was aligning with the federal public service’s updated hybrid work model, it did expect “some differences in the timing and application” of the new direction for some employees due to real property availability.

The CRA “is currently working diligently to identify existing space availability and areas where additional space may be required to meet its mandate,” the agency said in an email, adding that its plans were not finalized.

Jasmine Emond, a spokesperson for Statistics Canada, said the government agency wouldn’t be able to accommodate the three-day return to office rules for employees working in its Vancouver, Toronto and Montreal offices by Sept. 9 due to “a limited number of desks.”

“As a result, employees in these regions will continue with their 40 (per cent) on-site schedule until further notice,” Emond said, adding that the agency is working to explore space options alongside Public Services and Procurement Canada.
Why does a remote worker need a Union?
 
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Where does a remote worker picket if they go out on strike over this? Would they have to commute to the office in order to be on the picket line 5 days a week (to get their strike pay?) or could they do that remotely from home?
At home on the throne watching Netflix til their legs turn blue while using the same mouse jiggler from Temu they used to look like they are working to look like protesting.
 

Ron in Regina

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At home on the throne watching Netflix til their legs turn blue while using the same mouse jiggler from Temu they used to look like they are working to look like protesting.
Should they post a sign at the end of their driveways or something? Picket sign? Or can they do that virtually from their laptop from their bathroom at home?
 

Ron in Regina

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On Monday, federal public servants will return to the office a minimum of three days a week— if grudgingly.

Public service unions will start the week with an early-morning rally opposing the policy….but where? Is Monday one of the three days/week that they have to actually go to work?
Ottawa announced the policy, which also stipulates that executives will have to be in the office at least four days a week, in May. The unions responded by pledging a "summer of discontent."
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One of the concerns the unions have flagged is that there won’t be enough space for everyone in the office, saying workers already struggle to find available desks and meeting rooms.

What did they do ‘pre-COVID’ which is years behind us anyway? I guess Trudeau did expand the public service dramatically while also farming much of their work out to consultants, lessening their workload from both directions, in order for government services to decline as dramatically for those attempting to use them.

Unions are also flagging concerns about transportation, given Ottawa’s public transit system recently announced service cuts during non-peak hours.

"Most federal public servants living in the Ottawa area in particular don't trust that the transit system here is credible," Prior said…so, pretty much the same as everybody everywhere then. Got it.

Carr said it’s going to "take people longer to get to work…imagine that you have all this turmoil that's happened before you get to the office, so, pretty much the same as everybody everywhere then. Got it.

"If this doesn't get resolved willingly by the federal government, if they don't come to the light on their own terms and see the positives about remote work, then this will certainly continue to be a priority for us in bargaining." Would the actual non-federal public servant taxpayers get a say in this bargaining, perhaps through elected representatives on our behalf?
 
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Ron in Regina

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If one can do one's work from home, why commute?
I concur, but if the same amount of work isn’t being accomplished, and the federal public servants numbers have increased in the last decade by about 40%, with most of that during the COVID years, and consultants have also taken over a chunk of their workload in order to have worse outcomes for those paying for this, maybe something different like going to work eight hours a day even three days/week might be something to try?