Hamas attacks Israel

[Ron in Regina]

Israeli forces have recovered the bodies of two hostages killed in Hamas' Oct. 7 attack and held in Gaza since then, Israel's Army Radio reported on Wednesday, citing a statement from their kibbutz communities.

Maya Goren, a 56-year-old kindergarden teacher was killed during the attack on her kibbutz, Nir Oz, Army Radio said, one of the communities worst-hit in the deadly Hamas rampage through southern Israel that triggered the devastating war in Gaza.

The second hostage was Oren Goldin, 33, from a nearby Kibbutz, Nir Yitzhak.

The Israeli military did not immediately confirm the report.

Goren and Goldin were among the 120 hostages still held in Gaza, around 40 of whom Israel has declared dead in absentia based on forensic findings at various sites of attack, intelligence, visual documentation, and testimonies of released hostages.

Israeli forces retrieve bodies of five hostages from Gaza, military says — Reuters

Israeli forces recovered on Wednesday the bodies of five hostages killed in Hamas' Oct. 7 attack and held in Gaza since, the Israeli military said.

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[petros]

Icy reception....sting.

■ ISRAEL-U.S.: PM Netanyahu will address both houses of Congress on Wednesday. House Speaker Mike Johnson said Netanyahu's "testimony to Congress is critical." Johnson will also convene a private gathering with Netanyahu alongside influential Republican megadonors.

Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Rep. Becca Balint and Rep. Mark Pocan all declared they will not be attending Netanyahu's address. Rep. Thomas Massie was the first Republican to announce that he will skip the speech, saying: "Today Congress will undertake political theater on behalf of the State Department," whose purpose is "to bolster his political standing in Israel and to quell international opposition to his war. I don't feel like being a prop so I won't be attending."

Rep. Jerry Nadler, the unofficial dean of the House Jewish caucus, said he will attend, but added that "Netanyahu is the worst leader in Jewish history since the Maccabean king who invited the Romans into Jerusalem over 2100 years ago."

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer said that "even though I disagree with many of Bibi Netanyahu's policies, I will attend this speech because the United States' relationship with Israel remains ironclad and transcends any prime minister."

Protesting outside Congress, Zahiro Shachar Mor, the nephew of 79-year-old Israeli hostage Avraham Mundar, told Haaretz that "the Israeli government insists Israel is inches from total victory. Under this pretense, the fascist-backed Netanyahu administration is leaving no stone unturned not to rescue the hostages but to justify his failed image and shift blame and responsibility," adding that "We know Netanyahu speaks in two voices: In Israel he says one thing and in America he says a different thing – and it works for him. So we are here to show the world that Israel speaks in a different voice. The voice of Netanyahu is not the voice of Israel."

U.S. President Biden will receive PM Netanyahu at the White House on Thursday.

Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump, set to host Netanyahu on Friday at Mar-a-Lago, posted a letter written to him by Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas a day after the assassination attempt in Pennsylvania, wishing him "strength and safety." Trump wrote back to Abbas: "Mahmoud - So Nice - Thank You. All Will Be Good," and added in his post: "Looking forward to seeing Bibi Netanyahu on Friday, and even more looking forward to achieving Peace in the Middle East!"

"Should the word 'Iran' happen to arise in Netanyahu's speech to Congress, the long-term record shows that his policies on the issue have been a resounding failure. Whatever he suggests should be signal to try doing the opposite" – Dahlia Scheindlin

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[Ron in Regina]

It's true. Da Hoo-fees are a whole 'nother shithole.

Follow the money…on both sides of the conflict.

Why is there a Hamas?

Because of UNRWA over the course of the last 75 years and what it’s evolved into, and it’s indoctrination of the Palestinians to perpetuate its own existence. Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, and the Popular Mobilization Units of Iraq and Syria would be shadows of themselves if not for Iran’s financial and military support and tactical training, but that’s another story.

Annapolis Conference - Wikipedia

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Wasn’t good enough, or wasn’t enough, in 2008. Is it enough now?

 

[petros]

It rubs the propaganda in or it gets the hose again.

Because of UNRWA over the course of the last 75 years and what it’s evolved into, and it’s indoctrination of the Palestinians to perpetuate its own existence. Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, and the Popular Mobilization Units of Iraq and Syria would be shadows of themselves if not for Iran’s financial and military support and tactical training, but that’s another story.
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Annapolis Conference - Wikipedia

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Wasn’t good enough, or wasn’t enough, in 2008. Is it enough now?

 

[Ron in Regina]

Good morning.

 

[petros]

Good morning.

So far.

 

[petros]

Is there no evidence for UNRWA allegations?
An independent review finds no evidence for Israel's claims about UNRWA and Hamas UNRWA lost international funding after Israel said a significant number of its employees were part of Hamas. An independent review now says Israel hasn't provided evidence to support this accusation.Apr 28, 2024

 

[petros]

As of June 2024, the State of Palestine is recognized as a sovereign state by 145 of the 193 member states of the United Nations, or just over 75% of all UN members. It has been a non-member observer state of the United Nations General Assembly since November 2012.
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Int...
International recognition of the State of Palestine - Wikipedia

 

[Ron in Regina]

As of June 2024, the State of Palestine is recognized as a sovereign state by 145 of the 193 member states of the United Nations, or just over 75% of all UN members. It has been a non-member observer state of the United Nations General Assembly since November 2012.
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Int...
International recognition of the State of Palestine - Wikipedia

Israel has been recognized as a nation by the UN since 1949, & still about 30 nations don’t recognize it.

Is there no evidence for UNRWA allegations?
An independent review finds no evidence for Israel's claims about UNRWA and Hamas UNRWA lost international funding after Israel said a significant number of its employees were part of Hamas. An independent review now says Israel hasn't provided evidence to support this accusation.Apr 28, 2024

Just curious, but I wonder who paid for this independent review? How independent? Was it the UN reviewing UNRWA or something else?

Follow the money…on both sides of the conflict.

Lots of conflicting narrative on both sides of this.

 

[petros]

Israel was founded by terrorism and pity. The pity party is over for Israel and has shifted because their terrorism hasnt stopped and it impacts all Israelis negatively in their day to day lives. These KKK types that currently control Israel are extremely fucking dangerous. If you arent part of their sect youre not human. Their "modesty cops" just like Muzzies are causing issues for everyone. They treat their women like shit.

Who in their right mind supports that kind of far far rightwing Israelis in positions of power?

Israel made the UNRWA claims and have yet to provide evidence hence the funding restored.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Israel was founded by terrorism and pity. The pity party is over for Israel and has shifted because their terrorism hasnt stopped and it impacts all Israelis negatively in their day to day lives. These KKK types that currently control Israel are extremely fucking dangerous. If you arent part of their sect youre not human. Their "modesty cops" just like Muzzies are causing issues for everyone. They treat their women like shit.

Who in their right mind supports that kind of far far rightwing Israelis in positions of power?

Israel made the UNRWA claims and have yet to provide evidence hence the funding restored.

Israeli intelligence report claims four UNRWA staff in Gaza involved in Hamas kidnappings

Sky News has been shown Israeli documents which make a string of allegations against the UN agency, including claims it is "assisting Hamas with securing humanitarian aid that is transferred to the Gaza Strip".

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Have yet to provide evidence, or yet to provide evidence that’s up to the UN standard who had another UN entity investigate/reports on UNRWA?

Lots of conflicting narrative in the 75 year long goat rodeo.

 

[petros]

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Israeli intelligence report claims four UNRWA staff in Gaza involved in Hamas kidnappings

Sky News has been shown Israeli documents which make a string of allegations against the UN agency, including claims it is "assisting Hamas with securing humanitarian aid that is transferred to the Gaza Strip".

news.sky.com

Have yet to provide evidence, or yet to provide evidence that’s up to the UN standard who had another UN entity investigate/reports on UNRWA?

Lots of conflicting narrative in the 75 year long goat rodeo.

Only claims.

Keep in mind back in 2002 it was Netanyahu who convinced Bush Iraq had weapons of mass destruction...

 

[petros]

Musk and megachurch, rapture and reprise: Netanyahu’s dark speech to Congress

The 52 standing ovations punctuating Netanyahu's speech to Congress covered an essential nakedness: Omissions just as glaring as the absence of the more than 80 members who chose to skip it.

Esther Solomon. Esther Solomon
Editor-in-chief, Haaretz English


Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu speaks to a joint meeting of Congress at the Capitol in Washington, Wednesday.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's speech to Congress was a strange animal: A pseudo-State of the Union merged with evangelical megachurch preaching and a military pep talk, with enough chest-thumping Americana to trigger a round of 'U.S.A.!' chants from the Republican benches and guest appearance from friend-of-the-far-right Elon Musk – while protesters outside burnt him in effigy.

The appearance was an attempted reprise of all Netanyahu's once-reliable crowd pleasers. The description of the U.S.-Israel alliance as an immutable, if not divine, force ("May God bless the great alliance between Israel and America forever"), the characterization of Israel as both victor and victim, the demonization of critics of his own government and Israel's actions in Gaza as "Iran's useful idiots" who "stand with Hamas," denialism about Israel's part in the tens of thousands of civilian deaths in Gaza, the invocation of clash-of-civilization tropes, the pilfering of Bible verses (calling IDF soldiers "the lions of Judah, the lions of Israel"), the use of props (this time, using actual human props – freed hostage Noa Argamani and injured soldiers), the boasting about Israel's "powerful and vibrant democracy," despite his own concerted and unfinished efforts to weaken and subvert it.

But the 52 standing ovations covered an essential nakedness: The omissions in the speech were just as glaring as the absence of more than 80 Democratic members of Congress who chose to skip it.

Search the text in vain for the words "hostage deal," "cease-fire," or "two-state solution." The nod to bipartisanship support for Israel felt more fragile than ever ("America has our back – on both sides of the aisle"). The extrapolated contention that every battle in Khan Yunis was existential to U.S. national security and thus required unconditional support ("We are not only protecting ourselves, we are protecting you…Our fight is your fight, our victory is your victory") rang hollow, as did the less-than-definitive formulation that "Israel does not seek to resettle Gaza."

Netanyahu offered a dark, Spartan, zero sum vision of the world made-to-measure for his hyper-conservative Congressional fan base. But no matter the GOP adulation inside the chamber, Netanyahu can't sell expired goods to the world outside, not least to the audience back home that has heard his failed shtick one too many times – and has lived and died its consequences.

Esther Solomon
Editor-in-chief, Haaretz English

 

[Ron in Regina]

Only claims.

Keep in mind back in 2002 it was Netanyahu who convinced Bush Iraq had weapons of mass destruction...

Didn’t realize that, & I haven’t had the time to try and listen to that speech from yesterday.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Only claims.

Keep in mind back in 2002 it was Netanyahu who convinced Bush Iraq had weapons of mass destruction...

Didn’t realize that, & I haven’t had the time to try and listen to that speech from yesterday.

It’s not like I’ve done an in-depth thorough search or anything, but I’m not finding any mention whatsoever of this Nutty-Yahoo or Israel with respect to Bush or Iraq or weapons of mass distruction, etc…

Iraq and weapons of mass destruction - Wikipedia

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Wiki is usually enough to give some clues in order to branch out in a search from there, but there’s no mention… Can you throw a couple of crumbs out or something?

 

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[B00Mer]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1816614233640968227

 

[petros]

And?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1816614233640968227

And?

 

[Serryah]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1816614233640968227

All true, and it's not something that honest people will deny.

That doesn't mean that people still can't stand up against Israel and it's not only genocidal actions in Gaza, but that places in the west - companies, corporations and so on - help fund that genocide.

Like the demand from Israel that the US support it's Genocide, that the US give them weapons to kill even more innocents, because the Billions that they've already gotten wasn't somehow enough.

Anyone who thinks logically about the situation and doesn't realize that something is very wrong with that, obviously has serious bias that borders bigotry and racism.