Hamas attacks Israel

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The propaganda of war. Inevitably, the one side is going to claim what you’re claiming, so the other side is going to claim that all 70 Hamas dead or not only not Hamas, but are all civilian women and children with puppies and kittens, and all Palestinians that just happened to be in the company of Hamas (but if it’s after hours, are they still Hamas or are they Palestinians/UNRWA personnel again once they’re off the clock?) type individuals., etc…& that all the Hamas dudes were either not home or all of them were uninjured, etc…
"With the battle having ended twelve seconds ago, we can now confirm that exactly eight billion people are dead," said Gaza Health Ministry spokesman Ismail al-Thawabta. "They were all of course civilians, we've never seen such carnage, the hospital is overwhelmed, et cetera, you guys know the drill."
Gaza Strip -- Israel said it targeted Hamas’ shadowy military commander in a massive strike Saturday in the crowded southern Gaza Strip that killed at least 90 people including children, according to local health officials. Hamas immediately rejected the claim that Mohammed Deif was in the area.

The Hamas Health Ministry states that the attack has once again left Gaza on the brink of collapse. "We can confirm that for the 280th day in a row, Gaza only has 24 hours of fuel left before the power goes out and another billion children die," said Hamas spokesman Mohammed al-Insa.
1720896531581.jpeg"We are also starving and demand sushi instead of the crap Israel has been sending us. Dynamite roll, please, if it's not too much trouble." Etc…
 

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Yes. Trump Admin came this > < close to designating them full on terrorists.
Horseshoes. Hand grenades. Scud missiles. Election promises. All the things that this > < applies to in a situation like this.

Israel launched its campaign in Gaza after Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack in which militants stormed into southern Israel and abducted about 250 people.

I do believe that if a number of western governments weren’t absolutely tanking in the polls leading up to elections in their own nations…the headlines surrounding Israel would be very very different.
 
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Horseshoes. Hand grenades. Scud missiles. Election promises. All the things that this > < applies to in a situation like this.

Israel launched its campaign in Gaza after Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack in which militants stormed into southern Israel and abducted about 250 people.

I do believe that if a number of western governments weren’t absolutely tanking in the polls leading up to elections in their own nations…the headlines surrounding Israel would be very very different.
The group "designate" goes back decades not months.

I know you can read english as easily as you read engbrew.

Please do. They are the Zionist equivalent of the the KKfuckingK.

Why try justification Ron? What do you owe them?
 

Ron in Regina

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The group "designate" goes back decades not months.

I know you can read english as easily as you read engbrew.

Please do. They are the Zionist equivalent of the the KKfuckingK.

Why try justification Ron? What do you owe them?
Have they actually done it? Designating Israel as terrorists I mean as opposed to this close > <? If not, why?

Not justifying, but asking a legitimate question.

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said Israel and the United States were responsible for an attack that killed dozens in the Gaza Strip on Saturday, but the Western-backed leader also blamed Hamas for the continuing war in Gaza??? Huh…?

His comments signal rising tension between Abbas's Fatah faction and the Islamist Hamas group, which accused the Palestinian president of taking Israel's side. Didn’t Hamas execute a bunch of these Fatah reps in Gaza in about 2005 or so?
"The Palestinian presidency condemns the slaughter and holds the Israeli government fully responsible, also the U.S. administration that provides all kinds of support to the occupation and its crimes," said Abbas in a statement published by his office.

But Abbas, whose authority maintains a limited self-rule in the Israeli-occupied West Bank, assigned some blame to Hamas, whose Oct 7 attack inside Israel, in which 1,200 people were killed and around 250 others were abducted, kicked off the nine-month war in Gaza.
Hamas has run Gaza since its 2007 takeover of the coastal territory from Abbas loyalists.

Senior Hamas official Sami Abu Zuhri told Reuters Abbas's statement meant the Palestinian Authority "has chosen to be in the same trench with the occupation".

"Such an attitude will not succeed in blackmailing the resistance or pressuring it," said Abu Zuhri, etc…Another Hamas leader, Basem Naim, who took part in previous reconciliation talks with Abbas's Fatah faction, said Abbas was to blame for the failure to reach a unity deal, ‘cuz Israel & Jews?

Naim said Abbas's comments made him and his authority "partner to the Zioinist enemy and its crimes not only in Gaza but also in all of the Palestinian land” so yeah, ‘cuz Israel & Jews then. Confirmed.
 

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Have they actually done it? Designating Israel as terrorists I mean as opposed to this close > <? If not, why?

Not justifying, but asking a legitimate question.

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas said Israel and the United States were responsible for an attack that killed dozens in the Gaza Strip on Saturday, but the Western-backed leader also blamed Hamas for the continuing war in Gaza??? Huh…?
Busted as individuals not a group so people like yourself (goyim) dont get suspicious and ask question instead of holocaust holocaustages gentle lamb sausages.

The huh? Hamas aint the end all be holocaust all youve been lead holocaustages to believe.
 

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Busted as individuals not a group so people like yourself (goyim) dont get suspicious and ask question instead of holocaust holocaustages gentle lamb sausages.

The huh? Hamas aint the end all be holocaust all youve been lead holocaustages to believe.
At this point, I’m just a spectator, and it’s too early in the day for popcorn.
 

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Israeli army acknowledges Oct. 7 failures, including slow response times and disorganization
Author of the article:Associated Press
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Josef Federman
Published Jul 11, 2024 • 4 minute read

JERUSALEM (AP) — The Israeli military on Thursday acknowledged a string of errors in its response to the deadly Hamas attacks last Oct. 7, including slow response times and disorganization, as it released the results of its first investigation into failures during the assault that triggered the war in Gaza.


The report focused on the border community of Be’eri, where over 100 people were killed and more than 30 others taken hostage by Hamas. It was among the hardest-hit communities in the early morning attack, and it was the scene of one of the highest-profile confrontations of Oct. 7 — a standoff in which militants held a group of hostages inside a home.

“The army failed in its mission to protect the residents of Kibbutz Be’eri,” the military’s chief spokesman, Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari, said in a televised address. “It is painful and difficult for me to say that.”

During the standoff, a tank fired at the home, raising concerns that the 13 hostages inside were killed by friendly fire. The military concluded that they were likely killed by Hamas militants, not Israeli shelling, though it was unclear how it reached that conclusion, and the report called for additional tests. The army said the kibbutz was overrun by about 340 Hamas fighters.


Investigators “determined that, based on the information reviewed and to the best of their understanding, no civilians inside the building were harmed by tank shell fire,” the report said, though it said two Israeli civilians were hit by shrapnel outside the building. One of those civilians died, according to the man’s wife.

It also said commanders on the scene made “professional and responsible decisions” in ordering the tank strike. It said there had been a joint decision by various commanders after hearing gunshots within the house and militants saying they planned to kill the hostages and commit suicide.

“The team determined that most of the hostages were likely murdered by the terrorists,” the report said.


The report also pointed to delays of several hours in the arrival of military forces and said forces waited outside the kibbutz into the afternoon as residents were being killed, not understanding the severity of the situation.

“This situation is extremely grave and cannot occur,” it said.

The report praised “the bravery of the Be’eri residents and the members of the kibbutz’s civilian rapid response team,” saying it was “crucial in stabilizing the defensive line during the first hours of combat.”

The Israeli army has come under heavy criticism from Palestinians and human rights groups, who say its investigations rarely result in punishment.

Kibbutz residents gave the report a mixed reception, expressing anger over the army’s failures that day but also appreciation that it took responsibility.


Meir Zarbiv, a resident whose brother and sister were both killed on Oct. 7, called the report a “deception” by the army. “I don’t believe the report, and I don’t believe anything about it,” he said.

He said he still cannot understand the delays in arriving and entering the kibbutz. “I just don’t believe what happened here. I have no explanation,” he said. “Where was the army?”

In a statement, the community called the investigation “thorough” and said it helped them understand the complexity of the fighting that day.

“We see great importance in the army accepting the blame and responsibility for its complete failure to protect us and in asking for forgiveness for abandoning us for many hours during an attack of unmatched evil,” it said.


The kibbutz also called for an official state commission of inquiry into the broader failures of Oct. 7 “so the unimaginable loss we experienced will never against be experienced by any other citizen.”

The surprise cross-border raid killed some 1,200 people, most of them civilians, and took 250 others hostage, in the deadliest attack in Israel’s 76-year history. The attack, in which several thousand militants stormed across the border without resistance, revealed grave shortcomings in the army’s readiness, its intelligence assessments and policies set by political leaders toward Gaza.

An Israeli offensive launched in response to the attack has killed over 38,000 Palestinians, according to local health authorities, displaced over 80% of the territory’s people and triggered a humanitarian disaster in Gaza. Israel is now facing war crimes and genocide allegations in international courts.


The army has launched multiple investigations into the failures of Oct. 7, and the head of military intelligence has resigned. Several other commanders have apologized and taken responsibility for their failures.

But Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has rejected repeated calls for an official state investigation, even as the war enters its 10th month.

Netanyahu has said an investigation cannot be conducted while the country is focused on its war against Hamas and says all questions will be answered at the appropriate time. But critics accuse the Israeli leader of dragging his feet to avoid what will almost certainly be harsh criticism of his policies and leadership.

At a military ceremony Thursday, Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant said the time has come to launch a state commission of inquiry to look into the country’s leadership. “It needs to check me, the minister of defense. It needs to check the prime minister.”


In the face of fierce international criticism, Netanyahu has vowed to continue the war until destroying Hamas’ military and governing capabilities and the roughly 120 hostages remaining in Gaza return home. Tens of thousands of Israelis have taken to the streets in weekly protests calling on Netanyahu to reach an immediate cease-fire, saying time is running out to bring the hostages home safely.

International mediators have launched renewed efforts to broker a cease-fire between Israel and Hamas.

Netanyahu announced Thursday that he would send a team of negotiators to Cairo to continue cease-fire talks, but he reiterated his stance that he will not halt the war until Israel achieves its war objectives.

He was interrupted by hecklers at the same military ceremony when he vowed to continue the war “until victory, even if it takes time.”

As he spoke, a small crowd began to chant “shame.”
 

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At this point, I’m just a spectator, and it’s too early in the day for popcorn.
Put down the popcorn, wipe your greasy fingers and set aside the Octholostages on their periods and stare down at all the assholes as though you were an unbiased proctologist without seeing "eye to eye" with what you've been told to believe.

The way shit comes out ain't right son. Ain't right.
 
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Put down the popcorn, wipe your greasy fingers and set aside the Octholostages on their periods and stare down at all the assholes as though you were an unbiased proctologist without seeing "eye to eye" with what you've been told to believe.
Isn’t that how you get pink eye?
The way shit comes out ain't right son. Ain't right.
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The ceasefire negotiations being held in Qatar and Egypt ended on Friday without success, the BBC understands…for the approximately 281st consecutive day, give or take…
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The Israeli military says senior Hamas commander Rafa Salama was killed in an air strike in Gaza on Saturday. Hamas has not confirmed the report.

The Hamas-run health ministry in Gaza said that Israel's strike hit a camp for displaced people in a designated humanitarian zone in Khan Younis, killing at least 90 Palestinians and injuring 289 others.

Propaganda is a two-way street, & if Israel is hammering Hamas hierarchy hidden in among the “non-Hamas” Palestinians and UNRWA workers, etc…what’re the Hamas hierarchy doing in amongst the “non-Hamas” Palestinians and UNRWA workers (?) as you would think, during this war started on October 7th, 2023 that the Hamas hierarchy would have targets painted on their foreheads?

Not trying to justify anything, but simply asking the question, proctological inquiries aside.
 

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Propaganda is a two-way street, & if Israel is hammering Hamas hierarchy hidden in among the “non-Hamas” Palestinians and UNRWA workers, etc…what’re the Hamas hierarchy doing in amongst the “non-Hamas” Palestinians and UNRWA workers (?) as you would think, during this war started on October 7th, 2023 that the Hamas hierarchy would have targets painted on their foreheads?

Not trying to justify anything, but simply asking the question, proctological inquiries asaside.
Could be the type of leaders that dont lead from a cottage in the Laurentians or condo in Tel Aviv?
 
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Could be the type of leaders that dont lead from a cottage in the Laurentians or condo in Tel Aviv?
If Trudeau knew that somebody was going to drop a bomb on his ass, I would have an issue with him hanging out in my backyard. Maybe that’s just me though & not the majority of what’s assumably the non-Hamas Palestinians…

(Lisa is off…ironically…fishing, so I’m doing horticultural tank maintenance on her upstairs tanks)
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If Trudeau knew that somebody was going to drop a bomb on his ass, I would have an issue with him hanging out in my backyard. Maybe that’s just me though & not the majority of what’s assumably the non-Hamas Palestinians…

(Lisa is off…ironically…fishing, so I’m doing horticultural tank maintenance on her upstairs tanks)
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If being bombed and I knew my leader was fishing I wouldn't be happy.

If she's out fishing go treat yourself to Punch Crunch Chicken on corner of Victoria and Elliot.

Ho lee lick. Amazing chicken and massive portions.
 
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Gaza ceasefire talks have been halted after three days of intense negotiations failed to produce a viable outcome, two Egyptian security sources said on Saturday, blaming Israel for lacking a genuine intent to reach agreement.

The sources, who spoke to Reuters on condition of anonymity, said that the behaviour of the Israeli mediators revealed "internal discord".

The war began after a Hamas-led attack inside Israel on Oct. 7, that killed 1,200 people, mostly civilians, and saw around 250 taken hostage to Gaza, according to Israeli authorities.

Perhaps Hamas, who kidnapped a couple of hundred Israelis on October 7th, if they want to be taken as anything except Iranian patsy terrorists, if they had any intention to actually negotiate anything in good faith, should have already released the Israeli hostages if they even gave two shits about the Palestinians who they ‘claim’ they’re fighting for…but that’s from the outside looking in I guess.
The airstrike in Abasan , which the Israeli military said involved a “precise munition” to target a “terrorist from Hamas’ military wing” who had taken part in the 7 October attack on Israel, was only one incident during one of the most violent weeks in Gaza since the first months of heavy fighting in the territory last year.

More than 38,500 people have been killed in Gaza since the Israeli invasion began nine months ago. The invasion followed Hamas’s surprise attacks in Israel, during which 1,200 people were killed and 250 others abducted.
If Deif is in fact dead, he would be the most senior leader of the U.S.-designated terrorist group to have been killed by Israel in more than nine months of fighting in the Gaza Strip, which followed the Hamas-led Oct. 7 attack that left 1,200 people dead in Israel, mostly civilians, and more than 240 taken as hostages.
A senior Hamas official said on Sunday that the Islamist group has not withdrawn from ceasefire talks with Israel after this weekend's deadly attacks in Gaza that Israel said had targeted the group's military leader Mohammed Deif.

"The strike in Khan Younis was a result of surgical intelligence," the head of the Shin Bet domestic security service said in a video released by the service from Rafah. He said 25 Hamas operatives who took part in the deadly Oct. 7 attack in southern Israel that triggered the war had been killed in the past week.