Pro-Palestine Anti-Israel College Campus Protests

Ron in Regina

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McGill president Deep Saini called the encampment, one of many that had sprung up on campuses across the continent since the start of the Israel-Hamas war, "a heavily fortified focal point for intimidation and violence, organized largely by individuals who are not part of our university community."

In its statement, the school said an investigation had uncovered what it described as "serious health and safety risks" inside the camp, including two overdoses, fire risks and a rat infestation, so…???
Rats, feces, drugs and used needles. That’s the proud legacy of the “pro-Palestinian youngsters” who occupied the main entrance to McGill University for the past months.

Said McGill: “The encampment [was] the site of profound health and safety risks that continued to grow in scope and severity … due to the presence of human waste, a rat infestation, discarded syringes, a large amount of rotting food and garbage, and other potentially dangerous and unsanitary conditions within the site, it was necessary to use heavy machinery to remove parts of the camp for the safety of all involved … For the same reasons, it will be necessary to excavate and replace a layer of contaminated soil on the site.”

The McGill tenti-fada was characterized by drug overdoses, vandalism, mini-riots, assaults, and regular attacks on Jewish students. When this writer was there, just a few days ago, signs were up telling Jews (“Zionists”) to stay away. It was an ongoing, malodorous, fetid hate fest.

And that’s truly how bad it became: the university has had to excavate it, to remove contaminated soil.
 
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Tecumsehsbones

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Yeah, but most/much of the protest-camp trash ain’t even students (Muslim or not) either. Oh well, it’s all one big performative soap opera of propaganda anyway.
Sixty years ago, somebody responded to the March on Washington for Jobs and Justice by saying that while it was wonderful, moving, and powerful, he feared that one day big protests could take the place of communication with legislators, on-the-ground campaign work, and the unglamourous but effective tasks of practical politics.

Guess he was right.
 
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Sixty years ago, somebody responded to the March on Washington for Jobs and Justice by saying that while it was wonderful, moving, and powerful, he feared that one day big protests could take the place of communication with legislators, on-the-ground campaign work, and the unglamourous but effective tasks of practical politics.

Guess he was right.
Perhaps if the politicians listened to the voters once in a while this wouldn't happen.
 

Ron in Regina

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Sixty years ago, somebody responded to the March on Washington for Jobs and Justice by saying that while it was wonderful, moving, and powerful, he feared that one day big protests could take the place of communication with legislators, on-the-ground campaign work, and the unglamourous but effective tasks of practical politics.

Guess he was right.
Who was that someone?
 

Ron in Regina

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All it took was a little leadership and the Tentifada at the University of Toronto pulled up stakes and left campus. The protesters standing up for Hamas at U of T left ahead of Wednesday’s 6 p.m. deadline laid out by Justice Markus Koehnen of the Ontario Superior Court of Justice.

Like spoiled children, they made their demands to the university and would not waver in the slightest.

They denounced Israel as an apartheid state, a terrorist state, the source of all evil in the world. They demanded Israel be isolated, that an arms embargo be imposed upon them, that U of T boycott Israeli academic, disclose their investments and then divest of any companies related to Israel.

What these so-called pro-Palestinian protesters didn’t do was demand Hamas release the hostages, they didn’t demand that Hamas accept a ceasefire or lay down their arms.

There are people who want to blame the Toronto Police Service for not clearing the encampment immediately. Others want to blame Mayor Olivia Chow, Premier Doug Ford or Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, whichever is their least favourite politician.

The failure here lies solely at the feet of president Gertler and his senior administration at U of T.

It was their decision not to call the police for weeks. It was their decision to allow the campers to stay on campus erecting semi-permanent structures and installing portable-potties.

By doing that, the school administration had effectively granted the Hamasnik campers permission to stay on campus. Thus the police decision that they would not remove the encampment without a court injunction.

The protesters were outraged that Justice Koehnen had sided with the owners of private property in seeking to protect their property. They were also aghast at the idea that he would shut down their freedom of expression by ending the encampment.

“Case law is clear that exercising freedom of expression is not a defence to trespass,” Justice Koehnen wrote in his decision. “The University has suffered irreparable harm because of the protesters’ continued appropriation of Front Campus and their exclusion of others from Front Campus.” Oh well…
 
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What's your sense of it? Was it their protest UT had a problem with, or their position? Had they been cheerleading Israel would UT have done the same?
 

Ron in Regina

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What's your sense of it? Was it their protest UT had a problem with, or their position? Had they been cheerleading Israel would UT have done the same?
Do it during the day, then go home regardless of whom it is or what it’s over. Don’t prevent others from also using the space or otherwise infringe upon others rights while expressing your own. Leave the place the way you found it or better shape than when you found it. A right to protest doesn’t trump other peoples rights to go about their day and their business. Observe the rules & laws already in place while protesting or you don’t win over anyone to your cause. That’s my take on it.
 
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Do it during the day, then go home regardless of whom it is or what it’s over. Don’t prevent others from also using the space or otherwise infringe upon others rights while expressing your own. Leave the place the way you found it or better shape than when you found it. A right to protest doesn’t trump other peoples rights to go about their day and their business. Observe the rules & laws already in place while protesting or you don’t win over anyone to your cause. That’s my take on it.
I agree with all of the above, but that wasn't the question. My question was "What is your sense of UT's motivation? The conduct of the protesters or the content of their protest?"