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UN rights chief calls Israeli orders to relocate Palestinians from Rafah 'inhumane'

Israeli orders to relocate Palestinians from Rafah are inhumane and risked exposing them to further danger and misery, UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Volker Türk said in a statement said on Monday.

"Gazans continue to be hit with bombs, disease, and even famine. And today, they have been told that they must relocate yet again as Israeli military operations into Rafah scale up," Türk said. "This is inhumane."
 

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Senior Hamas officials to faction heads in Gaza: Preparations for an operation in Rafah don't change our stance on a deal

Hamas is convinced that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is only interested in the first part of a hostage release and cease-fire deal, and that he is ready to give up on the hostages who are slated to be released in the second phase of a prospective agreement.

Hamas believes that the prime minister will not fight for the repatriation of the kidnapped soldiers, and that he sees them as a reasonable price to pay for the defeat of Hamas in Gaza. The group claims that Israeli progress toward a military operation in Rafah doesn't change their demand for a complete halt to the fighting and the withdrawal of Israeli forces from the Strip.

Hamas leaders understand in the meantime that there is no guarantee on the lives of the group's senior members even if Israel agrees to a complete halt to hostilities.

From talks in Doha and Cairo, it appears that Yahya Sinwar, Muhammad Deif, and other Hamas leaders abroad know that they may be targets for Israeli assassination even after a cease-fire – if a deal is reached
 

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Hundreds protest across Israel calling for a deal to be signed following Hamas' announcement

Hundreds are protesting near the Kirya military headquarters in Tel Aviv, and in several locations across Israel – including central Jerusalem, Haifa, Sderot, Be'er Sheva, and northern Israel – following Hamas' announcement that it has accepted an Egyptian-Qatari cease-fire and hostage release proposal.

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Hostage and Missing Families Forum welcomes Hamas' acceptance of cease-fire proposal, says it's the Israeli government's turn to prove its commitment to its citizens

The Hostages and Missing Families Forum welcomed Hamas' acceptance of an Egyptian-Qatari cease-fire and hostage release proposal Monday.

"Now it's time for the Israeli government to prove, with action, its commitment to its citizens," the Forum said. "The cabinet must take Hamas' acceptance and turn it into a deal for returning all [the hostages.]
 

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On Gaza's Crowded Battlefields, Many Israeli Soldiers Are Killed by Friendly Fire

Last week, two reservists were killed in Gaza by Israeli tank fire after being misidentified as the enemy. A squadron commander on the incident: 'With the means available to us, it could happen again'

Monday.Credit: Amir Cohen / Reuters

Thirty seconds after an IDF helicopter fired a missile at a building in Gaza's Shujaiyeh neighborhood, the command "cease fire" came over the radio. The call made the blood of everyone on the brigade radio run cold, because, shortly before, that brigade had directed the attack helicopter toward a building where three terrorists were staying.

"We heard the shouts on the radio. We immediately realized that this was friendly fire," a senior officer, who participated in that action in December, told Haaretz. The result was one dead and four wounded, three seriously.

"A bad incident of firing on our own forces. That's the second time it's happened to us, to me! Very bad!" wrote the brigade commander in an internal inquiry into the incident, a copy of which Haaretz has obtained. The inquiry found that the target was not in the sector boundaries of the battalion that was directing the helicopter, and its men didn't know there were soldiers in the building.

Since the start of the war, at least 43 soldiers have been killed not by enemy fire. Twenty two were killed by friendly fire, five by irregular fire by mortars or aerial bombs, and the rest in operational accidents.
 

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….Hamas leaders understand in the meantime that there is no guarantee on the lives of the group's senior members even if Israel agrees to a complete halt to hostilities.

From talks in Doha and Cairo, it appears that Yahya Sinwar, Muhammad Deif, and other Hamas leaders abroad know that they may be targets for Israeli assassination even after a cease-fire – if a deal is reached
I think there’s a guarantee, but it’s not one they want to hear, regardless of where on the planet they hide, or how long they hide.
 

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As soon as this is over so is Bibi's career in politics. They all fucked up and they are all doomed.
I don’t doubt that at all, but I look at the history of Israel & hunting down its enemies.
In a statement Monday, Hamas said the head of its political bureau, Ismail Haniyeh, told the Qatari prime minister and Egyptian intelligence minister that the militant group had accepted their proposal.

The Israeli government is now reviewing the Hamas response, CNN has learned. The Israeli prime minister’s office has declined to comment at this stage.

It’s unclear whether Hamas has agreed to the most recent ceasefire proposal, as outlined last week, or a revised version of it.

So you & I are still both in the Running for the 20 or 33 hostage/prisoners for the 6 week cease-fire bet.
 
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I don’t doubt that at all, but I look at the history of Israel & hunting down its enemies.
In a statement Monday, Hamas said the head of its political bureau, Ismail Haniyeh, told the Qatari prime minister and Egyptian intelligence minister that the militant group had accepted their proposal.

The Israeli government is now reviewing the Hamas response, CNN has learned. The Israeli prime minister’s office has declined to comment at this stage.

It’s unclear whether Hamas has agreed to the most recent ceasefire proposal, as outlined last week, or a revised version of it.

So you & I are still both in the Running for the 20 or 33 hostage/prisoners for the 6 week cease-fire bet.
And Bibi will be on a hit list too.
 

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You don't think there are now Israelis who want him dead that didn't a year ago? He's hated big time.
I meant Iran Hamas Hezbollah Houthi’s etc…😉 but I can smell what you’re cooking.

Israel began hitting targets in the southern Gaza city of Rafah, after Hamas said it had accepted a proposal to pause the fighting that Israel said fell short of what it could accept.

Israel’s military said on Monday night that it was “conducting targeted strikes against Hamas terror targets in eastern Rafah” hours after Israel warned tens of thousands of Palestinians to evacuate parts of the city ahead of an offensive.

The new proposal, mediated by Egypt and Qatar, incorporated Hamas’s own demands, including a cessation of military operations and a withdrawal of Israeli forces before an exchange of hostages in Gaza for Palestinian prisoners in Israel.

Israel said Monday it was sending a delegation to the mediators to try to reach a deal, even though the “Hamas proposal is far from Israel’s necessary requirements.” Benny Gantz, a member of Israel’s war cabinet, said “there are serious gaps” in the proposal that Hamas transmitted and that it didn’t “match the discussion that was had up until now.”
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Israel was going to attack Rafah, regardless of what Hamas said or did, regardless of what anyone else hopes for.

Again, Israel is proving it's out to slaughter people and it's not for the hostages or even seeing stability come to the region (or as much stability as there can be).

But I'm sure the usual suspects will suck on that World Guilt tit even more.
 
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Israel was going to attack Rafah, regardless of what Hamas said or did, regardless of what anyone else hopes for.

Again, Israel is proving it's out to slaughter people and it's not for the hostages or even seeing stability come to the region (or as much stability as there can be).

But I'm sure the usual suspects will suck on that World Guilt tit even more.
I understand exactly what Nut n' Yahoo is trying to do. It's even do-able.

Just not by him. Boy has no follow-through.
 

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I meant Iran Hamas Hezbollah Houthi’s etc…😉 but I can smell what you’re cooking.

Israel began hitting targets in the southern Gaza city of Rafah, after Hamas said it had accepted a proposal to pause the fighting that Israel said fell short of what it could accept.

Israel’s military said on Monday night that it was “conducting targeted strikes against Hamas terror targets in eastern Rafah” hours after Israel warned tens of thousands of Palestinians to evacuate parts of the city ahead of an offensive.

The new proposal, mediated by Egypt and Qatar, incorporated Hamas’s own demands, including a cessation of military operations and a withdrawal of Israeli forces before an exchange of hostages in Gaza for Palestinian prisoners in Israel.

Israel said Monday it was sending a delegation to the mediators to try to reach a deal, even though the “Hamas proposal is far from Israel’s necessary requirements.” Benny Gantz, a member of Israel’s war cabinet, said “there are serious gaps” in the proposal that Hamas transmitted and that it didn’t “match the discussion that was had up until now.”
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This is flat out murder at this point.
 

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For Netanyahu, It's Always 1938 and U.S. College Campuses Are Nazi Germany​

Anyone familiar with Benjamin Netanyahu's interpretation of history should not be surprised by his latest ludicrous comparison between the pro-Palestinian protests on U.S. college campuses and 1930s Germany

Get this guy on meds pronto! Nazis! Everybody is a Nazi.

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That Iran is the reincarnation of Nazi Germany is a recurring theme in Benjamin Netanyahu's limited repertoire of speeches. But now there's a new entrant: U.S. college campuses, which, according to the Israeli prime minister's breathtaking demagoguery, are "reminiscent of what happened in German universities in the 1930s," no less.

There he was, standing grimly at Yad Vashem at the start of Holocaust Remembrance Day, with the pretense of the weight of history on his shoulders. Mr. "It's 1938 all over again." You would have expected his usual grandstanding speech, replete with current comparisons and anecdotal references to the Holocaust, pontificating and boasting of "Never Again," accusing Iran of being Hitler and portraying himself as Churchill.

This time, he had a novel contribution to contemporary history: the protests on U.S. campuses are like '30s Germany. That is an astoundingly demagogic, ahistorical statement from a man who prides himself as an avid reader of history.

Is there an Adolf Hitler in America? Are there racist Nuremberg Laws in the United States? Was there a Kristallnacht in New York? Are there storm troopers attacking Jews in Chicago? Are Jews in Boston required to wear a yellow badge with a "J" denoting that they are Jews, an inferior race? Are Jewish professors expelled from Caltech? Are Jewish-owned shop fronts in Philadelphia daubed with "Do not buy from Jews"? Did the Third Reich provide the Jews (there was no Israel at the time, of course) with $3.8 billion annually and a recent $14-billion grant for their protection? Is Mr. Netanyahu pleading with American Jews to flee America while they can? Because that's what it was like in '30s Germany.

the Arab world, and now Jewish civilization is facing a new existential threat centered in Iran: Islamofascism. Jews barely withstood those threats and weathered the onslaughts, and now history bestowed upon Mr. Netanyahu the chance to repel Iran and its proxies.

This is where Netanyahu's "protector of Israel" self-image comes from, and this is why he needs to constantly reimagine 1938, reinvent Hitler and maintain his "The world is against us" narrative.

This explains why, a day prior to Holocaust Remembrance Day, he said that "if we don't protect ourselves, no one will … we cannot trust the promises of gentiles" – implying that just like during World War II, the Jews cannot rely on the Americans.

Without debating the essence, features and qualities of the theory, one thing is clear: In order to deflect the Islamofascist threat, Israel will need superpower backing, an alliance and smart management of that alliance.

Is Netanyahu developing and nurturing any of these things? No. He is doing the exact opposite. Has he managed to deliver according to his self-ordained image as "the protector"? No. On the contrary. Has he made Israel stronger? No, he made it tragically weaker.
A week away from Israel's most sacred of days, Memorial Day, when we remember all those who have fallen since 1948, it is excruciatingly painful to be reminded of the deep ignominy of this Israeli government. That is not surprising, but it is still profoundly incomprehensible, unfathomable and revolting that Mr. Netanyahu, or any one of the inept sycophants masquerading as ministers in his government, lacked the basic decency or moral fortitude to resign.

Signs on displayed as pro-Palestinian protesters gather on the campus of George Washington University in Washington last week.Credit: Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images via AFP

Not one of them signaled a future intention to resign. Not one whispered "mea culpa." Not one has assumed a shred of responsibility. Not one admitted that he or she should be held accountable. Not one expressed remorse or contrition for their part in the October 7 debacle and its aftermath.

Instead, they project. It's America's fault. It's because of the Israel Defense Forces or Shin Bet security service. It's "the left" that is responsible, the pro-democracy protests, the media that fomented opposition, the judicial system, the antisemitic world.

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Israeli officials claim the Biden administration knew about the latest hostage and ceasefire deal proposal Egypt and Qatar negotiated with Hamas, but didn't brief Israel before Hamas announced it accepted it on Monday. A senior U.S. official pushed back saying "American diplomats have been engaged with Israeli counterparts. There have been no surprises."
Hamas announced on Monday that it accepted a ceasefire proposal given to it by Egypt and Qatar.

Three Israeli officials said the Hamas announcement on Monday surprised the Israeli government and that Israel didn't receive the text of the groups response from the mediators until an hour after Hamas released its statement.

When the Israelis read Hamas' response, they were surprised to see it contained "many new elements" that were not part of the previous proposal that Israel agreed on and that was presented to Hamas by the U.S., Egypt and Qatar ten days ago, the officials said.
 
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Israeli officials claim the Biden administration knew about the latest hostage and ceasefire deal proposal Egypt and Qatar negotiated with Hamas, but didn't brief Israel before Hamas announced it accepted it on Monday. A senior U.S. official pushed back saying "American diplomats have been engaged with Israeli counterparts. There have been no surprises."
Hamas announced on Monday that it accepted a ceasefire proposal given to it by Egypt and Qatar.

Three Israeli officials said the Hamas announcement on Monday surprised the Israeli government and that Israel didn't receive the text of the groups response from the mediators until an hour after Hamas released its statement.

When the Israelis read Hamas' response, they were surprised to see it contained "many new elements" that were not part of the previous proposal that Israel agreed on and that was presented to Hamas by the U.S., Egypt and Qatar ten days ago, the officials said.
Sounds like bullshit to me. 🙈🙉🙊
 

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Sounds like bullshit to me. 🙈🙉🙊
From multiple directions. I concur with your assessment of the situation.

(The Hamas announcement appeared to take the mediators, and Israel, by surprise, after the latest round of cease-fire negotiations had appeared to break down completely following a Hamas attack near an Israeli border crossing that killed four soldiers Sunday)

Israeli forces took control of the Rafah border crossing with Egypt on Tuesday, making their first ground incursion into the densely packed southern Gaza city where they have vowed to root out the last remnants of Hamas, an operation that angered neighboring Egypt.
An official from the Israel Defense Forces said infantry troops and an armored battalion gained “operational control” of the Palestinian side of the crossing. The official, who declined to be named in line with army protocol, said 20 militants were killed and three tunnel shafts uncovered in what he described as a “specific targeted operation” that was continuing on Tuesday morning.

The operation imperiled already fragile Israeli relations with Egypt, which has repeatedly warned Israel that military action on the border could violate a four-decade-old peace treaty between the two countries.

“Egypt vehemently denounces the Israeli military operation in Palestine Rafah, which has resulted in Israel controlling the Palestinian side of the border,” the Egyptian Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

It described the incursion as a “dangerous escalation” that was threatening cease-fire efforts, adding that the operation endangered the lives of the million Palestinians who depend on the crossing for humanitarian aid and a “safe way out for the injured and patients to get treatment.”

The operation came less than 24 hours after Israel dropped leaflets over the city — now harboring more than a million Palestinians, around half of Gaza’s entire population — ordering them to leave large parts of it. The United States has urged Israel not to carry out an offensive in Rafah without a “credible” plan to evacuate civilians.

But Israel appears intent on upping the pressure on Hamas, whose military capabilities it aims to destroy, while also giving itself additional leverage as it sends mediators to Cairo to reach a deal on freeing its remaining hostages held by Hamas.

Just hours before Israel launched its overnight attack, Hamas said it would agree to a Qatari-Egyptian cease-fire proposal, reviving hopes of an extended pause. It makes you wonder what Hamas claims to have agreed with that the Egyptian/Qatarian mediators offered it???
Oh, apparently, in the first of three phases, militants would release 33 women, children and elderly hostages, with three released every three days in exchange for dozens of Palestinian prisoners (or 700, depending on the source), the official said.

On the 34th day, Hamas would give Israel a list of all remaining hostages???

At the same time, Palestinians would be allowed to return to their homes, Israeli troops would withdraw from the most populated areas inside Gaza and there would be a surge in humanitarian aid.

All military and reconnaissance aviation would cease for eight hours a day, and 10 hours on hostage-release days???

The second and third phases are less specifically spelled out in the written agreement, the senior Arab official said, and are the apparent crux of disagreement between Hamas and Israel. In the second stage, all additional hostages and agreed-on prisoners are to be released once arrangements are made for the return of a “sustainable calm” to Gaza.

But the two sides have differing interpretations of that phrase — first proposed by mediators in late February in an effort to bridge what has long been a seemingly irreconcilable gap between Hamas’s demand that Israel agree to a permanent cease-fire in Gaza and Israel’s insistence that any cease-fire be temporary, allowing it to eliminate what it says are the militant group’s last intact battalions inside Rafah.

During the third stage, according to the proposed deal, the two sides are to exchange bodies of the dead and begin a five-year reconstruction plan for Gaza.

Hamas would agree not to construct any military facilities or import materials used for military purposes. I thought that was UNRWA’s role anyway?

The deal does not address Israel’s demands that Hamas’s military capabilities be destroyed, its leaders eliminated and that the group play no part in governing postwar Gaza.
 
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