That one is easy. They are looking to low information voters. When one takes the numbers out of context, grocery chains look like they are making massive profit. turdOWE calls them out on gross profit, but does not advertise the percentage, because even a dedicated socialist knows that 2% is not an excessive profit. About 20% of what CPP investment arm brags about making for our pensions.
Federal government want the grocery CEO’s to explain why groceries are high.
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This has been a tough question to answer, with Mis/Cis/Disinformation abounding from multiple sources/angles, & I still don’t have the answer….
Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre has been spreading his “axe the tax” message for months now telling people that when you tax the farmer who grows the food, the trucker who moves it and the grocer who sells the food then the food will be more expensive. Bank of Canada Governor Tiff Macklem tried to tell Canadians that the carbon tax only added to inflation at a rate of 0.15%.
That one stunk from the get-go, but it was out there and available as somewhat of an answer even though it was totally unbelievable to those living the Carbon Tax dream.
That didn’t seem right and so Sylvain Charlebois, the Food Professor, asked the Bank for an explanation of how they arrived at that level. The answer is the Bank only calculates the impact of the tax on gas, heating oil and natural gas, they don’t look at its impact on other products or how it impacts prices as it is passed on through the supply chain to consumers.
That makes the 0.15% a false claim, one you shouldn’t believe.
LILLEY: Poll shows Canadians see through Trudeau's carbon tax claims — Toronto Sun
Majority want carbon tax reduced or cut altogether, small minority want it to go up.
Carbon tax rebates are based off of averages, not what you actually pay or consume. Also, like the Bank of Canada’s calculations, it doesn’t account for the compounding impact of the tax on prices.
Thanksgiving is this weekend. If you haven’t noticed food prices coming down or even stabilizing, you aren’t alone.
Sure, the Justin Trudeau government summoned the major grocery chains and demanded plans to deal with rising prices by this holiday weekend, but that doesn’t mean you will notice a difference.
Days after that demand and that meeting with the grocers, Statistics Canada released its latest inflation report showing food prices still marching upward. Putting chicken in your grocery cart would have cost you an extra 8.9% in August compared to a year earlier, coffee and tea an extra 9%, cereal products were up 9.8% and beef was up 11.9%.
In the House of Commons on Wednesday, Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre took Trudeau to task for not dealing with the issue as promised.
“Will he keep his promise, yes or no, to deliver an affordable Thanksgiving dinner to Canadians?” Poilievre asked.
Trudeau’s response was to accuse Poilievre of playing partisan political games, while claiming he is focused on delivering for Canadians. It’s not clear what Trudeau is delivering for Canadians other than higher prices — in part driven by his carbon taxes, but that’s not something he wants to talk about.
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“Will, by this Monday, Thanksgiving, he reverse the 22% inflation in the price of peas, the 33% inflation in the price of green salads, the 37% price inflation in the cost of frozen turkeys and the 74% price inflation for potatoes. Will he keep his word, will he bring the prices down, yes or no?” Poilievre said.
Trudeau’s reply was to say that the Conservatives are blocking his Bill C-56, the Affordable Housing and Groceries Act. That’s not a bill that would bring down prices quickly, if at all, but given Trudeau’s bluster in claiming he would reduce prices he had to reach for something.
The Trudeau Liberals have contributed to inflation and food inflation in particular in multiple ways. The government likes to claim that this is all the result of external international forces like the war in Ukraine, but in reality it is a mixture of international and domestic policies that are driving up prices.
Anyone claiming it is all one or the other is lying to you.
The Trudeau government’s ever-increasing spending, even after COVID programs had long ended, has contributed to inflation. Government spending is always a factor when it comes to inflation and the Trudeau Liberals are no exception to that rule.
Under pressure from high food prices, a new survey shows almost half of Canadians are prioritizing the cost of their groceries instead of nutrition.
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Sure, the Justin Trudeau government summoned the major grocery chains and demanded plans to deal with rising prices by this holiday weekend, but that doesn’t mean you will notice a difference.
Days after that demand and that meeting with the grocers, Statistics Canada released its latest inflation report showing food prices still marching upward. Putting chicken in your grocery cart would have cost you an extra 8.9% in August compared to a year earlier, coffee and tea an extra 9%, cereal products were up 9.8% and beef was up 11.9%.
In the House of Commons on Wednesday, Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre took Trudeau to task for not dealing with the issue as promised.
“Will he keep his promise, yes or no, to deliver an affordable Thanksgiving dinner to Canadians?” Poilievre asked.
Trudeau’s response was to accuse Poilievre of playing partisan political games, while claiming he is focused on delivering for Canadians. It’s not clear what Trudeau is delivering for Canadians other than higher prices — in part driven by his carbon taxes, but that’s not something he wants to talk about.
LILLEY: Poilievre roasts Trudeau over failure to lower food prices by Thanksgiving — Toronto Sun
Trudeau Liberals promised change in food prices, but it hasn't happened as Canadians get set for turkey
“Will, by this Monday, Thanksgiving, he reverse the 22% inflation in the price of peas, the 33% inflation in the price of green salads, the 37% price inflation in the cost of frozen turkeys and the 74% price inflation for potatoes. Will he keep his word, will he bring the prices down, yes or no?” Poilievre said.
Trudeau’s reply was to say that the Conservatives are blocking his Bill C-56, the Affordable Housing and Groceries Act. That’s not a bill that would bring down prices quickly, if at all, but given Trudeau’s bluster in claiming he would reduce prices he had to reach for something.
The Trudeau Liberals have contributed to inflation and food inflation in particular in multiple ways. The government likes to claim that this is all the result of external international forces like the war in Ukraine, but in reality it is a mixture of international and domestic policies that are driving up prices.
Anyone claiming it is all one or the other is lying to you.
The Trudeau government’s ever-increasing spending, even after COVID programs had long ended, has contributed to inflation. Government spending is always a factor when it comes to inflation and the Trudeau Liberals are no exception to that rule.
Under pressure from high food prices, a new survey shows almost half of Canadians are prioritizing the cost of their groceries instead of nutrition.
Food inflation has nearly half of Canadians prioritizing cost over nutrition: survey — CTV News
Under pressure from high food prices, a new survey shows almost half of Canadians are prioritizing the cost of their groceries instead of nutrition.
I was listening to an interesting chunk of discussion on the radio this evening on this topic. I missed the first portion of it of course….But I tuned in when they were discussing grocers proposing, listing the carbon tax amount as a separate line item on receipts for groceries.
Then they discussed supply management enforced by the government to artificially inflate the cost of dairy products and eggs.
Then they discussed the effect of the carbon tax, not only on every stage compounding on food products being manufactured, processed, and delivered to retail outlets, but the cost of the carbon tax in powering lighting and refrigeration, and heating the stores themselves coming into Winter.
They were proposing that the government drop the carbon tax even temporarily like other nations have already done until we get through the current financial squeeze that we are almost all feeling. I’m doubting that any of these proposals will be taken seriously by our federal government though.
As popular support for the Trudeau government plummets — and the party is reportedly wracked by discord behind closed doors — it’s the issue of the carbon tax that is leading to the first major eruption of opposition from the Liberal backbenches.
Liberal MPs from P.E.I., New Brunswick and Nova Scotia are now publicly criticizing Ottawa’s existing carbon pricing scheme, and calling for reforms under which fewer Atlantic Canadians would need to pay it. And this week, a Newfoundland Liberal became the only non-Conservative to support a token motion by Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre to abolish the carbon tax entirely.
The motion in question had minimal chance of passage, and is one among many that opposition parties routinely introduce as symbolic gestures. The text called on the Liberal government to “introduce legislation, within seven days of this motion being adopted, to repeal all carbon taxes to bring home lower prices on gas, groceries, and home heating.”
The Bloc Québécois, NDP and Green Party caucuses all swiftly voted “nay,” but Ken McDonald, the MP for Avalon, stepped forward as the only Liberal supporter.
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McDonald added that he’s pretty sure the Liberals will lose the next election given the public mood.
Meanwhile, other Liberal MPs from across Atlantic Canada are telling constituents that they continue to support the carbon tax in principle, but believe that Atlantic Canadians (among others) shouldn’t have to pay as much of it.
Sean Casey and Bobby Morrissey, who both represent ridings in P.E.I., are now publicly pushing for a boost to the Climate Action Incentive Payment that would rebate a larger share of carbon taxes to rural residents — and also carve out an exemption for heating oil.
Atlantic Canadians currently receive an individual rebate of between $90 and $170 every three months, with additional rebates based on household size.
Atlantic Canada is now paying roughly the same level of carbon tax as everyone else, but the policy has been uniquely unpopular in the region by virtue of the fact that it came on so fast. Carbon pricing levies — and rebates — first came into force on July 1, causing immediately noticeable rises to East Coast fuel prices.
(When any visible dissension has shown itself among members of the Trudeau government, it’s usually been answered with near-immediate consequences. Most recently, Quebec Liberal MP Anthony Housefather was cycled out of his job as a parliamentary secretary soon after being the sole dissenting voice on a Liberal update to the Officials Languages Act)
Then they discussed supply management enforced by the government to artificially inflate the cost of dairy products and eggs.
Then they discussed the effect of the carbon tax, not only on every stage compounding on food products being manufactured, processed, and delivered to retail outlets, but the cost of the carbon tax in powering lighting and refrigeration, and heating the stores themselves coming into Winter.
They were proposing that the government drop the carbon tax even temporarily like other nations have already done until we get through the current financial squeeze that we are almost all feeling. I’m doubting that any of these proposals will be taken seriously by our federal government though.
As popular support for the Trudeau government plummets — and the party is reportedly wracked by discord behind closed doors — it’s the issue of the carbon tax that is leading to the first major eruption of opposition from the Liberal backbenches.
Liberal MPs from P.E.I., New Brunswick and Nova Scotia are now publicly criticizing Ottawa’s existing carbon pricing scheme, and calling for reforms under which fewer Atlantic Canadians would need to pay it. And this week, a Newfoundland Liberal became the only non-Conservative to support a token motion by Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre to abolish the carbon tax entirely.
The motion in question had minimal chance of passage, and is one among many that opposition parties routinely introduce as symbolic gestures. The text called on the Liberal government to “introduce legislation, within seven days of this motion being adopted, to repeal all carbon taxes to bring home lower prices on gas, groceries, and home heating.”
The Bloc Québécois, NDP and Green Party caucuses all swiftly voted “nay,” but Ken McDonald, the MP for Avalon, stepped forward as the only Liberal supporter.
FIRST READING: Why Liberal backbenchers are revolting over the carbon tax
"Everywhere I go people come up to me and say 'we're losing faith in the liberal party'" said Newfoundland MP Ken McDonald
Meanwhile, other Liberal MPs from across Atlantic Canada are telling constituents that they continue to support the carbon tax in principle, but believe that Atlantic Canadians (among others) shouldn’t have to pay as much of it.
Sean Casey and Bobby Morrissey, who both represent ridings in P.E.I., are now publicly pushing for a boost to the Climate Action Incentive Payment that would rebate a larger share of carbon taxes to rural residents — and also carve out an exemption for heating oil.
Atlantic Canadians currently receive an individual rebate of between $90 and $170 every three months, with additional rebates based on household size.
Atlantic Canada is now paying roughly the same level of carbon tax as everyone else, but the policy has been uniquely unpopular in the region by virtue of the fact that it came on so fast. Carbon pricing levies — and rebates — first came into force on July 1, causing immediately noticeable rises to East Coast fuel prices.
(When any visible dissension has shown itself among members of the Trudeau government, it’s usually been answered with near-immediate consequences. Most recently, Quebec Liberal MP Anthony Housefather was cycled out of his job as a parliamentary secretary soon after being the sole dissenting voice on a Liberal update to the Officials Languages Act)
Talked to a local merchant a couple of days ago about soaring prices. Along with deliberate inflationary actions by various levels of government he told of one that no one seems to think about. Sea cans, which virtually all our imported goods come in have increased in price from around $1600 three years ago to around $4500 today. That has to be divided up amongst every item in the can.
Certainly not Trudeau. When the BoC tells him to rein in his inflationary spending all Trudeau hears is "Spend MOAR"!
Oh, so close. No, it's Pierre and Justin who were and are card-carrying communists, while managing to be Quebec nationalists, that are out to destroy Canada. Trudeau fucking stated it dude. He said he was going to turn Canada into the first post-nation state.
Why not blame the "real" problem instead of gaslighting Canadians about grocers? Because his govt is a big part of the problem, that's why. You think this is just about carbon taxes? Get a clue, Skippy.
Week away from Christmas now.Thanksgiving is this weekend. If you haven’t noticed food prices coming down or even stabilizing, you aren’t alone.
Sure, the Justin Trudeau government summoned the major grocery chains and demanded plans to deal with rising prices by this holiday weekend, but that doesn’t mean you will notice a difference.
Days after that demand and that meeting with the grocers, Statistics Canada released its latest inflation report showing food prices still marching upward. Putting chicken in your grocery cart would have cost you an extra 8.9% in August compared to a year earlier, coffee and tea an extra 9%, cereal products were up 9.8% and beef was up 11.9%.
In the House of Commons on Wednesday, Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre took Trudeau to task for not dealing with the issue as promised.
“Will he keep his promise, yes or no, to deliver an affordable Thanksgiving dinner to Canadians?” Poilievre asked.
Trudeau’s response was to accuse Poilievre of playing partisan political games, while claiming he is focused on delivering for Canadians. It’s not clear what Trudeau is delivering for Canadians other than higher prices — in part driven by his carbon taxes, but that’s not something he wants to talk about.
LILLEY: Poilievre roasts Trudeau over failure to lower food prices by Thanksgiving — Toronto Sun
Trudeau Liberals promised change in food prices, but it hasn't happened as Canadians get set for turkey
“Will, by this Monday, Thanksgiving, he reverse the 22% inflation in the price of peas, the 33% inflation in the price of green salads, the 37% price inflation in the cost of frozen turkeys and the 74% price inflation for potatoes. Will he keep his word, will he bring the prices down, yes or no?” Poilievre said.
Trudeau’s reply was to say that the Conservatives are blocking his Bill C-56, the Affordable Housing and Groceries Act. That’s not a bill that would bring down prices quickly, if at all, but given Trudeau’s bluster in claiming he would reduce prices he had to reach for something.
The Trudeau Liberals have contributed to inflation and food inflation in particular in multiple ways. The government likes to claim that this is all the result of external international forces like the war in Ukraine, but in reality it is a mixture of international and domestic policies that are driving up prices.
Anyone claiming it is all one or the other is lying to you.
The Trudeau government’s ever-increasing spending, even after COVID programs had long ended, has contributed to inflation. Government spending is always a factor when it comes to inflation and the Trudeau Liberals are no exception to that rule.
Under pressure from high food prices, a new survey shows almost half of Canadians are prioritizing the cost of their groceries instead of nutrition.
Food inflation has nearly half of Canadians prioritizing cost over nutrition: survey — CTV News
Under pressure from high food prices, a new survey shows almost half of Canadians are prioritizing the cost of their groceries instead of nutrition.
Trudeau targets cow burps and your steak and burger get more expensive! #canadianpolitics
In the name of fighting climate change, Justin Trudeau's Liberal government wants to tackle cow burps and manure but that means more expensive meat for you. ...
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How much of this is about selling North Americans acceptance of the idea of eating bugs to make life easier for those who already do eat bugs?Week away from Christmas now.
Merry Christmas Peoplekind!! Those bugs Klaus figures the rest of us should eat are sounding less like fiction.Trudeau targets cow burps and your steak and burger get more expensive! #canadianpolitics
In the name of fighting climate change, Justin Trudeau's Liberal government wants to tackle cow burps and manure but that means more expensive meat for you. ...
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Amazing that these announcements are made as the majority of Canadians are pre occupied when push back does occur they just answer that it's too late the announcement was made months ago that's when you should have raised your concernsWeek away from Christmas now.
Merry Christmas Peoplekind!! Those bugs Klaus figures the rest of us should eat are sounding less like fiction.Trudeau targets cow burps and your steak and burger get more expensive! #canadianpolitics
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Why doesn't he tackle the high cost of diesel?
Because that might actually solve a problem, remove an excuse, and they wouldn’t be able to scapegoat somebody else. I thought that was obvious.
Canadians are being penalized for something that other countries are doing. We have the most robust clean energy in the world yet we're being charged this stupid tax. It's incredible!
We were about 20 cents a couple of days ago, but it bounces around so much it is hard to keep track. Right now it would be tough to justify buying a diesel truck.
I just sold off a 2020 Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross.
The first car Ive had in my name in over 30 years. Im a truck man but mine died after 360,000km so I bought a 4 banger car for $2K under wholesale. Killler mileage at 5.5L - 6.5L per 100km (40-45mpg). Tiny little 1.5L with a turbo that walked all over the Mrs' GL Mercedes. Hybrid or E cant do that.
I loved that car...but Im a truck guy. Give me that oomph and fuel mileage in a truck and youve got me
They are the engine that drives the problem. The carbon tax was stupid 8 years ago, and it's stupid now. I can't even list the damage they have done to our country.