let's not forget 'society' as a whole and social engineers in particularIt's getting out of control the progressive teachers/parents did it to themselves
How does this square with the fact that corporal punishment is virtually unknown, and certainly not even an issue for debate, in most Asian societies, notably China and Japan, and yet they somehow manage to produce remarkably orderly and disciplined adult populations?let's not forget 'society' as a whole and social engineers in particular
you see the direct result of not allowing corporal punishment of kids.
some really do need it.
put kids in their place when they're young
so they'll know there are consequences in life
and so you don't need to do it when they're older.
the time for discipline is in the toddler stage, and right on up to preteens for the serious transgressions.
if not, you get what we have as a society today.
I understand that, and certainly there will be exceptions. I'm in no way advocating anyone beating the living crap out of their kids. Of course there should be limits.How does this square with the fact that corporal punishment is virtually unknown, and certainly not even an issue for debate, in most Asian societies, notably China and Japan, and yet they somehow manage to produce remarkably orderly and disciplined adult populations?
The same is true of those Christian sects that practice strict non-violence, including no corporal punishment.
Is there not a risk of corporal punishment teaching kids that one has the right to rule whomever one can beat up?
Maybe that's one of the differences between western cultures and those you mention, Tec? That maybe they're more likely to just let the child wail?
I certainly am! Pound the little bastards into submission, then pound 'em every now and then to keep 'em there.I understand that, and certainly there will be exceptions. I'm in no way advocating anyone beating the living crap out of their kids.
(sometimes I gotta put you on "devil's advocate". even so....)Best way to beat kids is semi-randomly. When you're drunk or they piss you off, even if they're not really doing anything wrong.
Don't want 'em growing up with any stupid notions that life is fair.
Nah, once they get to the point where they can hit back effectively, you throw 'em out. Cut ties. You kept 'em alive and taught 'em fear. Time for them to fuck off and give you some peace.(sometimes I gotta put you on "devil's advocate". even so....)
hopefully with you they'll have the sense to tap out.
lol
so this is why discipline should be instilled in as early a stage of life as possible - so they've long forgotten about it by the time they can physically turn the tables on you. Once they know how to behave parents should be as good to their kids as possible, so they'll want to take care of you when you're old, if you've shown them through your own example of how well you looked after their grandparents.
No?
Good thing we have assisted suicide then, eh?
and so otherwise it's... spare the rod and spoil the world.
Best thing my mom ever did for me was boot me out when I was 17.Nah, once they get to the point where they can hit back effectively, you throw 'em out. Cut ties. You kept 'em alive and taught 'em fear. Time for them to fuck off and give you some peace.
and if their personality is uglier than their looks, then make sure their looks end up uglier still heh hehIf they're ugly, you hit em twice as hard.