It's the lefties' fault. They coulda had a strong, reliable, economical power system.
Like Texas.
Trudeau Makes Good on Ethical Energy to Germany
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Like Texas.
So what’s the answer? What’s the path to take? These are not just vexatious questions but real questions looking for input on solutions.
Do we (globally, anybody who is capable of doing so) hammer in the infrastructure and push LNG to lessen Putan’s (now) choke hold on Europe, choke out coal power production by making it less affordable than Natural Gas by flooding the market instead of Gov’t Woke policies, and keep people fed and warm while doing so (?) or continue on choking ourselves with bureaucratic leashes that China alone make worth less than nothing beyond political selfies and hollow posturing?
I admit I probably have tunnel vision here, so I’m asking legitimate questions for real alternate solutions.
Multi-source critical materiel (thanks for that lesson, Prof. Putin).
Diversify electrical power sources (fossil, nuke, wind, solar, hydro, LNG (I know, technically fossil)).
Listen to the engineers, not the politicians or the managers.
National oversight and coordination of all the above.
Remember that minimizing pollution and greenhouse gas emissions is important.
Yeah, it's complicated. That's why we pay MPs and MPPs the big bucks. Demand better solutions.
And ferfuck'ssake, quit treating this a school hockey game between Team Just A True Dope and Team Pete Poo-lover. Quit hunkering in a corner screaming hatred at the people who wear a different colour shirt. Do crazy shit like negotiating with Themmuns and seeking ideas from them.
"We have serious problems, and we need serious people."
--President Andrew Shepherd, The American President
Tweets are, by definition, not serious.
Well one thing is for sure , if we keep selling coal to China they are going to burn it .
Yes, that is certain. However another certain thing is that if we don't, they'll buy the coal elsewhere and still burn it.
So the solution is to make it worth it for them to burn something other than coal. Such as LNG, which the enviro-types ALSO don't want sold to them. So they fought the pipelines being built like crazy. So china still burns coal.
I think they make a little - wasn't that the issue with the trade dispute with the us? We can sell our steel, but what they were doing is mixing some of ours with a lot of chinese steel and selling it that way?
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Justin Trudeau’s “green” fairy tale continues. And our nation’s economy and the West’s efforts to contain Vladimir Putin both suffer from our prime minister’s dalliances with unreality.
Last week, German chancellor Olaf Scholz was in Canada. What he was hoping for was a pledge from the federal government to start shipping LNG (liquified natural gas) to his country so Germany can stop buying Russian natural gas by 2024.
It would be tricky, but just barely doable, for Canada to keep such a promise.
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There are two LNG facilities on the East Coast – one in New Brunswick, another in Nova Scotia – that could up and ready in two years, given enough regulatory support from governments.
The problem would be supplying them with enough natural gas. That would require a pipeline from Western Canada. But that is unpopular in Quebec, which means the Liberals in Ottawa will never go for it.
They would rather let our European allies freeze in the dark (and let Putin bully any nation he wishes) rather than run the risk of upsetting Quebec voters and radical environmental groups. Oh well…the rest at the link.
Justin Trudeau’s “green” fairy tale continues. And our nation’s economy and the West’s efforts to contain Vladimir Putin both suffer from our prime minister’s dalliances with unreality.
Last week, German chancellor Olaf Scholz was in Canada. What he was hoping for was a pledge from the federal government to start shipping LNG (liquified natural gas) to his country so Germany can stop buying Russian natural gas by 2024.
It would be tricky, but just barely doable, for Canada to keep such a promise.
GUNTER: Trudeau's 'green' obsession is Canada's nightmare — Toronto Sun
Justin Trudeau’s “green” fairy tale continues. And our nation’s economy and the West’s efforts to contain Vladimir Putin both suffer from our prime minister’s dalliances with unreality. Last week, German chancellor Olaf Scholz was in Canada. What he was hoping for was a pledge from the federal...
There are two LNG facilities on the East Coast – one in New Brunswick, another in Nova Scotia – that could up and ready in two years, given enough regulatory support from governments.
The problem would be supplying them with enough natural gas. That would require a pipeline from Western Canada. But that is unpopular in Quebec, which means the Liberals in Ottawa will never go for it.
They would rather let our European allies freeze in the dark (and let Putin bully any nation he wishes) rather than run the risk of upsetting Quebec voters and radical environmental groups. Oh well…the rest at the link.
Let me give you one more statistic that shows how foolhardy (and cultish) the whole of Trudeau’s “green” plan is – net-zero by 2050, only electric vehicles by 2035, a punishing cap on emissions from oil developments, no-more-pipelines federal laws.
I don’t know what we’re selling them but I know what they’re burning. China burned 5.24 billion tonnes of coal – most of it the dirtiest thermal kind – in 2021. That’s up 5.2 per cent (or 272 million tonnes) from pre-pandemic levels.
Last year, in all of Canada, we burned just over 26 million tonnes.
In other words, in 2021, just the increase in China’s coal consumption was the equivalent of 10 times the entire amount of coal Canada used.
Can’t she grow her own? She’s an adult now. Time to find a trade.
It's batty, we know that. Most of his plans aren't even technically possible right now. And destroying our economy in a way that benefits others who don't simply will convince them they were right and we were stupid.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau should be feeling isolated in his campaign against fossil fuels, especially Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG), as leaders around the world reduce their countries’ reliance on inadequate renewable energy and tone down their own rhetoric about lowering GHG emissions. But for political and ideological reasons his government cannot admit to the terribly damaging consequences of its green policies and the urgent need to fundamentally change course. To the contrary, it keeps doubling down on its climate obsession.
Witness the latest pronouncement from Steven Guilbeault, minister of environment and climate change, that the government will block new pipelines from Alberta that could deliver LNG to the Maritimes for export to Europe and India. Lest there be any lingering doubt, Trudeau declared there was no business case for them — having previously trammelled potential projects with regulations designed precisely to make them uneconomic.
These assaults on reason and the national interest must have been jarring to a desperate German Chancellor Olaf Scholz on his visit to Canada, the fifth largest producer of natural gas in the world. Europe’s biggest economy is on its knees, its leader reduced to begging Vladimir Putin and anyone else for natural gas and coal to avert an economic and human disaster this winter.
Joe Oliver: Trudeau’s growing isolation on fossil fuels — Financial Post
Ottawa cannot admit to the terribly damaging consequences of its green policies and the urgent need to fundamentally change course
Ottawa’s policies have: stranded the bulk of Canada’s vast proven oil and gas reserves, cost jobs and growth across the country, undermined national unity, jeopardized energy security, deprived Indigenous communities of transformative economic opportunities and now precluded assistance to allies in dire need. All this harm was deliberately inflicted to improve Canada’s green scorecard (and Trudeau’s resumé), which no one living more than a half mile from Rideau Cottage cares about. The climate measurement we should focus on is not the puny 1.5 per cent of global emissions we generate but overall global emissions, which could be lowered significantly if Asian countries substituted our LNG for the coal they currently burn.
Europeans have started to rethink the critical error of excessive reliance on intermittent wind and solar power, finally coming to grips with the unavoidable reality that renewables alone cannot provide sufficient reliable energy, not even at exorbitant cost. So they need natural gas, oil, coal and nuclear power to avoid blackouts, forcing their poorest citizens to chose between food and heat and depriving businesses of the ability to compete in the global economy.
Reality is dragging the world back toward rational self-interest and common sense. At some point, Canadians will choose a government that catches up and puts these things, and people, first.
Considering that the vast majority of the investment in non-fossil energy is being funded and performed by Big Energy, "In vain may heroes fight and patriots rave." --Alexander Pope
The transition to non-fossil will occur at the rate most profitable to Big Energy. The most True Dope, Greenpeace, the EU, and all the other well-meaning fools can do is speed or slow that process by a couple of percent.
The transition to non-fossil will occur at the rate most profitable to Big Energy. The most True Dope, Greenpeace, the EU, and all the other well-meaning fools can do is speed or slow that process by a couple of percent.
Canada is only a couple of percent. Bureaucratically removing ourselves from the equation changes what globally?
Bureaucratically removing ourselves from the equation changes what nationally?
On a global scale, The change is negligible. On a national level, The change is large.
Shirley, you jest. Do you really think that Big Energy concerns itself with national borders?
You're the town that died when they built the by-pass. And the mayor is fully on board.
Big energy is like a river that flows around obstacles. Bureaucracy can improve or impede the direction of the flow. If bureaucracy in one place improves the flow, and in another place it impedes the flow….there is an impact in the direction of flow.
Topically, your knowledge of local politics in our little city impressive. There is a whole big dirty backstory behind the one sentence you have spoken about Regina, but that’s a whole different thread unto itself.