And again... (Another US Shooting)

B00Mer

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Yes there was a shooting this past weekend at a beach in the city. There will always be a way. But its all about the odds.

I have gone the other way. I just shrug my shoulders (otherwise know as thoughts and prayers) and move on. This is not something that will change (if they can't stop a mental case from buying an automatic weapon is there any hope for any controls?) so what is the point at getting yourself in a state of emotional distress?

Well Canada’s way and permitting people to have firearms is better than the USA

How is Sweden’s gun laws
 

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Yes there was a shooting this past weekend at a beach in the city. There will always be a way. But its all about the odds.

I have gone the other way. I just shrug my shoulders (otherwise know as thoughts and prayers) and move on. This is not something that will change (if they can't stop a mental case from buying an automatic weapon is there any hope for any controls?) so what is the point at getting yourself in a state of emotional distress?

Sadly I can't help it. Part of my 'mental issues'. :p

But your point is absolutely right, this is not something that will change. And maybe that's what gets me the most *shrug*
 

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Understanding Meth Rage​

Does meth make people violent? Meth addiction can change a person in ways never thought imaginable, including inducing what’s known as meth rage. Becoming violent while using meth is scary for everyone, including the user. Meth can make you do things you would never do under normal circumstances. So it’s no surprise that meth increases incidents of violence.

It mostly comes down to science. Studies show that the chemical properties of meth result in increased aggression and poor decision-making, among other negative side effects. Also, drug use can uncover pre-existing issues, including anger issues or mental disorders. And of course, that’s why meth is so dangerous, both for the person abusing them and the people around them.
And yet in Canada Libturds want to allow being "so high/intoxicated that you don't know what you're doing" as a defence.
 
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petros

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Nobody else seems to notice this scrawny, scabbed up meth rat is a scrawny, scabbed up meth rat.

It's not rocket appliances.

The rise of violence in the US and Canada correlates with the rise of meth.

Numbers don't lie.
 
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Methamphetamine Use and Violence Among Young Adults
NCJ Number

216742
Journal

Journal of Criminal Justice Volume: 34 Issue: 6 Dated: 2006 Pages: 661-674
Author(s)

Arielle Baskin-Sommers; Ira Sommers
Date Published

2006
Length

14 pages
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This study examined the relationship between methamphetamine use and violence among young adults 18 to 25 years old.
Abstract
Results of the study suggest that developmental factors are important contributors to violence. Anger, frustration, and situational opportunities were short-term motivating influences for violence. For many of the study sample participants that engaged in violence, chronic methamphetamine use had a disorganizing effect on their cognitive functions. The most significant pharmacologic determinants of the methamphetamine-violence link are the dose and the chronic exposure to the drug. At acute low doses, methamphetamine produces cognitive and mood alterations, but tends not to increase offensive-aggressive behavior. With increasing dose and long-term use, methamphetamine users tend to display psychological and physical deterioration, as well as changes in their social behavior. Many people behave aggressively when under the influence of drugs. It is apparent from these findings that methamphetamine use is a risk factor for violence. The findings have important implications for interventions aimed at reducing methamphetamine use and violence. The results suggest the importance of improving collaborative efforts across multiple intervention systems. Empirical evidence concerning patterns of violence is sparse, particularly its relationship to violence among young adults. This study was designed to explore the relationship among methamphetamine use and violence among young adults. The study sample included 55 respondents in drug treatment and 51 active community methamphetamine users. The majority of respondents were male Hispanic high school graduates in their 20s.
 
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So far, none of his associates interviewed have said anything about drug use.
Maybe not, but as a Canadian I find it interesting how the same ideology in Canada that's trying to make hay out of what happened in Texas is the same ideology that wants to allow "being so high I didn't know what I was doing " as a defence. They want us to believe they're concerned about public safety while wanting to provide excuses for (at least some) horribly violent behaviour.
 
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Maybe not, but as a Canadian I find it interesting how the same ideology in Canada that's trying to make hay out of what happened in Texas is the same ideology that wants to allow "being so high I didn't know what I was doing " as a defence. They want us to believe they're concerned about public safety while wanting to provide excuses for (at least some) horribly violent behaviour.
They know better.

 

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I never said it was possible. But you can reduce odds. And if I was in a locked room with a guy with a knife or a gun I would take my chances with the guy with the knife.
I would rather face a gun than a knife any day. Neither if at all possible, but it takes far more control to injure a person with a gun than a knife, especially at close range.
 

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Agreed.. I like the way Canada does their PAL

Checking History, check with family, check for criminal and mental stability

Not to mention when you are in the PAL system, they check to see if you got a assault charge or criminal conviction to pull your license daily…

Yet with all these precautions we still have illegal guns killing people daily in Vancouver, Toronto and the shooter in Nova Scotia
That is because the pol ice are too busy looking for ways to fine legit gun owners as a revenue stream, than take illegal weapons off the street.
 

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Maybe not, but as a Canadian I find it interesting how the same ideology in Canada that's trying to make hay out of what happened in Texas is the same ideology that wants to allow "being so high I didn't know what I was doing " as a defence. They want us to believe they're concerned about public safety while wanting to provide excuses for (at least some) horribly violent behaviour.
The traditional rule is "If you voluntarily intoxicated yourself, you are responsible for what you did while intoxicated."

The way to go is to stamp out the approximately-conservative "He was just drunk" excuse, not to allow intoxication to be an excuse.

Drunk? High? Addicted? Don't care. Unless you can prove, as an affirmative defense (which means the defendant must introduce it and the burden of proof is on the defendant) that you were involuntarily intoxicated (basically roofied or otherwise poisoned), no dice.