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Trucker protest at U.S. border crossing reportedly several kilometres long
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--Misattributed to Harry Truman
What Jinny-boy doesn't get that it "Started" out as over Mandates, and if it's more than that, they haven't articulated it well at all. IMO it didn't become more than Mandates until the convoy got to Ottawa and someone, or lots of someones, decided "Well why not just add more to the complaints!"
It WASN'T about freedom, that's for sure, no matter what they say.
And now it's a PR mess and more people just want them to go the fuck home.
I don't know if it's a majority, but a lot are, mostly east Indian I believe. I would think that most of the protesters are white guys. The east Indians are known to work cheaper and longer hours than the white drivers. I can't see them taking the time or money to protest.
Ottawa police say children on trucks add complication to ending trucker protest — Toronto Star
Ottawa police Chief Peter Sloly listens to a question at a news conference on updated enforcement measures as a protest against COVID-19 restrictions on Feb. 4, 2022.
OTTAWA—Police say the job of ending Ottawa’s trucker demonstration has been complicated by the discovery of children in about 100 of the 419 trucks lining downtown streets.
Ottawa Deputy Chief Steve Bell insisted Tuesday police are stepping up enforcement actions and want to end the occupation “as soon as possible” but he said the risk to officer safety is a concern as demonstrators are more “volatile” and on Monday “swarmed” an officer trying to block the transport of fuel jerrycans.
I have looked for video (cell phone, CCTV, bodycam, etc…) of the “swarmed” police officer….& the story last night read “almost swarmed police officers” but regardless of which if either are accurate, I’m finding no photos or video of it.
Then, just out of curiosity, I searched Google for images & video of all the different nazi or confederate flags in Ottawa that are cited often as it sounds like they’re common in this protest. Interesting results. Different angles of the same few but those flags that can be found in the news actually in Ottawa they can collectively be counted on one hand.
(lots of images of those flags from elsewhere or stock images to fit a story, but actually in Ottawa during this protest thing…not so much. Same dude in the same brown coat carrying the same flag for lots of different angles, etc…or same flag on the same flag pole from lots of different angles, etc… interesting twist)
I’m not condoning shitty behaviour whatsoever but the results of the search were very interesting.
I almost got shot last night. That's to say, if somebody had been around me, and if that person had a gun, and if that person fired it, I coulda been SHOT!
Your latter point is good. One asshole does not a movement make (except maybe a bowel movement).
Your latter point is good. One asshole does not a movement make (except maybe a bowel movement).
Please enlighten us about previous trucker convoys against the feds and what that may have been about.
As has been said many many times here, the feds only mandate what happens across borders and even if they dropped that , the US still would prevent the truckers form crossing. So they could win by Canada but still lose by the US.
The "full scope" is not a federal restriction or imposition.... it is Provincial. Seems that truckers and supporters are pissing on the wrong tree
…& children being present is an issue because of De-escalation?
“He said police have asked for help from the Children’s Aid Society to ensure the safety of truckers’ children “who could be at risk during a police operation” and because of concerns about the effect on them of carbon monoxide and diesel fumes, noise levels, the cold, and the lack of sanitation, but Bell said the police are not planning any “enforcement activity” to remove the children.”
But no mention of the threat to these same kids by arresting anyone that might provide them with food or fuel (=Heat & Power & Mobility) in the winter. Interesting. Police are not planning any “enforcement activity” to remove the children. Hmmm…
“He said police have asked for help from the Children’s Aid Society to ensure the safety of truckers’ children “who could be at risk during a police operation” and because of concerns about the effect on them of carbon monoxide and diesel fumes, noise levels, the cold, and the lack of sanitation, but Bell said the police are not planning any “enforcement activity” to remove the children.”
But no mention of the threat to these same kids by arresting anyone that might provide them with food or fuel (=Heat & Power & Mobility) in the winter. Interesting. Police are not planning any “enforcement activity” to remove the children. Hmmm…
It's about butthurt. Y'all need to increase the National Health's (or whatever you call it) budget for Preparation H.
Last I checked, barring people from providing others with the needs of life was a human rights violation.
Be a war crime if there was a war.
Still from the same link above but further into the story:
The Trudeau government made clear it will not negotiate or meet with convoy organizers.
Retired OPP commissioner Chris Lewis told a television interviewer Monday the crisis is a result of a failure of police leadership.
Other police officials in current leadership or union positions are careful not to criticize Sloly’s handling of the demonstrations amid the crisis, saying only there will be time for lessons learned after it all ends.
Matt Skof, the president of the Ottawa police union, in an interview said the police are responsible for the “logistical” management of the protest, but “the issue in this case,” which he said was complaints about vaccine mandates, “is not with the police.”
Asked why any government would talk to a group demanding its defeat, Skof said every demonstration sees people make demands which may be unreasonable, “And in this case … the effort has not even been made to have the conversation.”
The Trudeau government made clear it will not negotiate or meet with convoy organizers.
Retired OPP commissioner Chris Lewis told a television interviewer Monday the crisis is a result of a failure of police leadership.
Other police officials in current leadership or union positions are careful not to criticize Sloly’s handling of the demonstrations amid the crisis, saying only there will be time for lessons learned after it all ends.
Matt Skof, the president of the Ottawa police union, in an interview said the police are responsible for the “logistical” management of the protest, but “the issue in this case,” which he said was complaints about vaccine mandates, “is not with the police.”
Asked why any government would talk to a group demanding its defeat, Skof said every demonstration sees people make demands which may be unreasonable, “And in this case … the effort has not even been made to have the conversation.”
Damn. For an idiot, True Dope has an impressive grip on the reins!
If he and his family can't take the heat they should get out of the kitchen. Politics is a dirty game. If you want privacy don't be in the public eye. Otherwise, reap the consequences of your actions.
Feet on the ground by a "normal" person. His take from a walkabout.
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A night with the untouchables - The Reformed Physicist
I live in downtown Ottawa, right in the middle of the trucker convoy protest. They are literally camped out below my bedroom window. My new neighbours moved
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It’s bizarre how the positions have flip-flopped politically with this latest protest compared to all the other ones over the last couple of years. Funny and sad at the same time:
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A First Nation chief in western Manitoba says the "Freedom Convoy" that brought downtown Ottawa to a standstill is the result of "unabashed entitlement" among privileged Canadians.
"If your freedom is built on the denial of freedom to others, then you didn't actually have freedom at all," Pine Creek First Nation Chief Derek Nepinak told CTV National News on Monday. "You had privilege."
Etc…. How memories are short and hypocrisy is long… funny and sad at the same time.
First Nation chief on the difference between 'freedom' and 'privilege' — CTV News
A First Nation chief in western Manitoba says the 'Freedom Convoy' that brought downtown Ottawa to a standstill is the result of 'unabashed entitlement' among privileged Canadians.
"If your freedom is built on the denial of freedom to others, then you didn't actually have freedom at all," Pine Creek First Nation Chief Derek Nepinak told CTV National News on Monday. "You had privilege."
Etc…. How memories are short and hypocrisy is long… funny and sad at the same time.
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Yep, there's plenty of folk that come in for hate and harassment for things they can't do anything about, like skin color or origin.
True Dope CHOSE this. If he don't like it, there's plenty'd be happy to take over for him.
To quote the immortal Superchicken "Fred, you knew the job was dangerous when you took it."
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Yup another who is so blind he refuses to see . There are every race and creed involved in the Ottawa protests . Not all white men , lots of ladies and children there as well .
This one sort of makes it sound like multiple police officers were swarmed but again no pictures or video etc….
Ottawa police say children on trucks add complication to ending trucker protest — Toronto Star
Ottawa police Chief Peter Sloly listens to a question at a news conference on updated enforcement measures as a protest against COVID-19 restrictions on Feb. 4, 2022.
OTTAWA—Police say the job of ending Ottawa’s trucker demonstration has been complicated by the discovery of children in about 100 of the 419 trucks lining downtown streets.
Ottawa Deputy Chief Steve Bell insisted Tuesday police are stepping up enforcement actions and want to end the occupation “as soon as possible” but he said the risk to officer safety is a concern as demonstrators are more “volatile” and on Monday “swarmed” an officer trying to block the transport of fuel jerrycans.
I have looked for video (cell phone, CCTV, bodycam, etc…) of the “swarmed” police officer….& the story last night read “almost swarmed police officers” but regardless of which if either are accurate, I’m finding no photos or video of it.
Police attempting to seize fuel downtown were “swarmed” by a group of demonstrators, he said, resulting in minor injuries to some officers.
Trucker convoy: Kids in 25% of vehicles could 'complicate' response, cops say — Global News
Ottawa police are warning that the presence of children in the so-called 'Freedom Convoy' is one more factor complicating efforts to end the demonstration.
People cutting their own brake lines (?) or removing the wheels off their own vehicles? I just don’t have the time to search out pictures or video of this but I’d be curious if somebody else can find them?
There are a lot of things being said or accusations being made by both sides.This one sort of makes it sound like multiple police officers were swarmed but again no pictures or video etc….
The past few days have seen demonstrators fill jerrycans with water in an attempt to confuse police enforcing the fuel ban and trucks have had their brakes cut or wheels removed to stymie efforts to remove them from the downtown core.
Trucker convoy: Kids in 25% of vehicles could 'complicate' response, cops say — Global News
Ottawa police are warning that the presence of children in the so-called 'Freedom Convoy' is one more factor complicating efforts to end the demonstration.
People cutting their own brake lines (?) or removing the wheels off their own vehicles? I just don’t have the time to search out pictures or video of this but I’d be curious if somebody else can find them?
Considering everyone has a cell phone and videos are everywhere and the fact you cannot find photos or videos of claims by both sides should tell you something.