Trudeau calls trucker protest an 'insult to truth'

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Twin_Moose said:
How many were arrested for damaging property? Or were they just bylaw infractions?

You've got google.

 

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Exactly what the protesters in Ottawa are doing .
And I support their right to do that, regardless of how dumb I think their grievances are. At the same time, if they break the law, they are accountable for that. Holding up a sign that says "Fuck Trudeau" is fine. Holding it up blocking traffic is a violation.
 

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Trudeau calls trucker protest an 'insult to truth'​


Protestors are demonstrating for a third consecutive day over a cross-border vaccine mandate for truckers imposed by the Liberal government.

Ottawa police asked the public to avoid the downtown area on Monday, citing "traffic, noise and safety issues".

Some downtown stores, including a shopping mall, will also be closed.



Marxist Trudeau is an insult to the truth. The buffoon lies every day to we the peasants. The guy has shown us all now that he is no leader but a little coward that he always was. What he has shown us all is that he is a rotten little Marxist coward that is too afraid to come out from where he is hiding and come talk to we the trucker people. But what else can we the peasants expect from a Marxist anyway. All Marxist dictators believe and think that they are above we the peasants and it would be beneath him to have to talk to we the peasants. Oh, Trudeau-Trudeau, come out- come out wherever you are you little coward you. :ROFLMAO:
 

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Marxist Trudeau is an insult to the truth. The buffoon lies every day to we the peasants. The guy has shown us all now that he is no leader but a little coward that he always was. What he has shown us all is that he is a rotten little Marxist coward that is too afraid to come out from where he is hiding and come talk to we the trucker people. But what else can we the peasants expect from a Marxist anyway. All Marxist dictators believe and think that they are above we the peasants and it would be beneath him to have to talk to we the peasants. Oh, Trudeau-Trudeau, come out- come out wherever you are you little coward you. :ROFLMAO:
Well, if you define yourself as a peasant, I surely ain't gonna argue.
 

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Does this help?

CBC says Erin O'Toole's comments ... - True North Canada

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The CBC likes to spin the government funding they receive (a fairly substantial $1.16 billion) by saying that it creates 3x that much for the Canadian economy. My response is that a private company could take those assets and do even better for the Canadian economy as a whole (as evidenced by their already more efficient business models).
Certainly explains why it is so hard to find any real information.
 

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I posted the amount this morning, instead of splitting off threads maybe pay attention

Wait, let me get this straight.

You ask me a question you already know the answer to and then get upset at me for not answering your question.


 

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Bottom line is the US requires proof of vaccinations...not just for truckers but for everyone.
You can wipe out all health mandates in Canada but you still cannot get into the US.... which is what the original protest was.
In the meantime, real truckers are woking.
You still on that same stick , why not get some new material ?
 
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You still on that same stick , why not get some new material ?
Why change material if it is still valid, true and real??? By the way, real truckers are crossing the borders every day.
I ain't like you that changes tunes to meet public approval (and like your buddy justine does) LOL
 

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You do realize that there are vaccinated truckers in Ottawa too right?
No he is purposely ignoring the thousands of supporters and donations pouring in from around the country and world .
This is interesting though. The level of threat perception over this protest compared to so many other protests we’ve seen in the last few years is bizarre.

With what started as a Trucker Convoy protest long before it got to its destination of Ottawa…..was demonized by the PM & Jagmeet had to jump on that bandwagon too….had its social media shutdown & restarted & shutdown again if I recall correctly, while its funding was shutdown & partially restarted & shutdown again…Can you imagine the reaction if this was done to pretty much ANY OTHER Group protesting the government in the last few years? Not a damn chance but it is happening in this case?

We’ve seen extremes to the bizarre with public destruction of statues, interruptions of public highways and railways and barricades of bridges on the Trans Canada highway and the burnings of many many churches with little to no reaction….& none of that in this current protest that’s caused a “state of emergency”???

Why is this current government so afraid of this one but not the others?

Right now, in Ottawa, it’s become a crime to provide food or water or fuel to keep these protesters warm. Did the government try to freeze & starve out the “Idle No More” or any of a 1/2 dozen other groups of protesters in recent memory? Did they forcibly remove the “Occupy” movement protesters?

When the “Wet’suwet’en hereditary chiefs” and the others that latched onto their cause where blockading railways across the nation (& burning them in at least one instance)…for weeks…other than some proactive private citizens in Alberta, the government just sat and wrung its hands, but not in this case?

Something is different about this protest, and the government has been behaving very differently regarding specifically only this protest, and it is both confusing and stinky at the same time. It’s still most of a week before this protest can be called two weeks old and the government reaction is just so radically different from these other protests that actually saw real public destruction of assets and infrastructure.

Justin Trudeau wouldn’t miss a “Selfie Moment” like the media whore that he is, and would flounce himself out followed by his private photographer to pretty much any protest from BLM to Greta protesting against Justin for the photo op…but days before this Convoy even reached Ottawa Justin went into hiding even before he officially went into hiding? You all know that if there was a “LGBTQ+ Elks Protest against Elmer Fudd-looking Hunters wearing Flannel” that Justin Trudeau would be in the middle wearing a set of antlers and posing solemnly for the opportunity.

There are patterns to life that can be seen. The Sun will rise in the East. Someone will always be try’n to make a buck with claims that ‘ The end is nigh!’ and people in groups will be tribalistic. Those are givens that you can set your watch to. Birds fly south for the Winter and potholes emerge in the Spring.

This government’s reaction to this protest isn’t following the pattern and that’s a Curiosity and concern all at once just because of the difference. What is different here compared to the others?
 

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This is interesting though. The level of threat perception over this protest compared to so many other protests we’ve seen in the last few years is bizarre.

With what started as a Trucker Convoy protest long before it got to its destination of Ottawa…..was demonized by the PM & Jagmeet had to jump on that bandwagon too….had its social media shutdown & restarted & shutdown again if I recall correctly, while its funding was shutdown & partially restarted & shutdown again…Can you imagine the reaction if this was done to pretty much ANY OTHER Group protesting the government in the last few years? Not a damn chance but it is happening in this case?

We’ve seen extremes to the bizarre with public destruction of statues, interruptions of public highways and railways and barricades of bridges on the Trans Canada highway and the burnings of many many churches with little to no reaction….& none of that in this current protest that’s caused a “state of emergency”???

Why is this current government so afraid of this one but not the others?

Right now, in Ottawa, it’s become a crime to provide food or water or fuel to keep these protesters warm. Did the government try to freeze & starve out the “Idle No More” or any of a 1/2 dozen other groups of protesters in recent memory? Did they forcibly remove the “Occupy” movement protesters?

When the “Wet’suwet’en hereditary chiefs” and the others that latched onto their cause where blockading railways across the nation (& burning them in at least one instance)…for weeks…other than some proactive private citizens in Alberta, the government just sat and wrung its hands, but not in this case?

Something is different about this protest, and the government has been behaving very differently regarding specifically only this protest, and it is both confusing and stinky at the same time. It’s still most of a week before this protest can be called two weeks old and the government reaction is just so radically different from these other protests that actually saw real public destruction of assets and infrastructure.

Justin Trudeau wouldn’t miss a “Selfie Moment” like the media whore that he is, and would flounce himself out followed by his private photographer to pretty much any protest from BLM to Greta protesting against Justin for the photo op…but days before this Convoy even reached Ottawa Justin went into hiding even before he officially went into hiding? You all know that if there was a “LGBTQ+ Elks Protest against Elmer Fudd-looking Hunters wearing Flannel” that Justin Trudeau would be in the middle wearing a set of antlers and posing solemnly for the opportunity.

There are patterns to life that can be seen. The Sun will rise in the East. Someone will always be try’n to make a buck with claims that ‘ The end is nigh!’ and people in groups will be tribalistic. Those are givens that you can set your watch to. Birds fly south for the Winter and potholes emerge in the Spring.

This government’s reaction to this protest isn’t following the pattern and that’s a Curiosity and concern all at once just because of the difference. What is different here compared to the others?

 
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Thank you Sarryah, that’s an interesting perspective. In all honesty this Trucker Convoy has been a disorganized goat rodeo from the get go, with no real organization or unified demand of government and that’s pretty clear to see.

Being in the transportation industry myself, in all honesty, we don’t have the time for boondoggles like this convoy as we’re just fighting to keep our heads above water at this point in time….but I’m following it from the sidelines peripherally trying to understand what’s happening & why.

There are arguably as many truckers that physically look like Jagmeet Singh than there are that look like Justin Trudeau, but in the Public Relations painting of this protest that has been inconvenient to point out it seems. That would destroy the narrative of the misogynistic racist descending upon Ottawa. It’s bizarre.

The court of public opinion in this instance has also been dominated from Ottawa via the media days before this “Convoy” arrived with statements from both the Prime Minister and the leader of the NDP making this out to be like Genghis Khan descending upon Ottawa. Again, bizarre.

Your bearded guy above makes some very interesting points with respect to the concept of this playbook, with the narrative of racism being imposed without factoring in that the old guy white trucker is quickly becoming like the dodo bird, & the new face of this Industry doesn’t fit Justin’s narrative whatsoever.

We are in a world of global supply chains and the next day shipping economy with little warehousing capacity (except crap from China for Amazon & Wish & Walmart), with increased costs for damn near everything related to shipping & transportation from fuel to trucks to parts to insurance to fuel & road taxes to ELD’s and so on and so forth. Something has got to give and what that is I honestly don’t know. Maybe it’s a forest for the trees thing for me but I honestly don’t know.

I will say that for this protest currently in Ottawa, not giving them a voice whatsoever like every other movement, while demonizing them before they even arrived, that’s a big mistake. I can see that coming back to bite before this is over, whatever this is.
 

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Thank you Sarryah, that’s an interesting perspective. In all honesty this Trucker Convoy has been a disorganized goat rodeo from the get go, with no real organization or unified demand of government and that’s pretty clear to see.

Being in the transportation industry myself, in all honesty, we don’t have the time for boondoggles like this convoy as we’re just fighting to keep our heads above water at this point in time….but I’m following it from the sidelines peripherally trying to understand what’s happening & why.

There are arguably as many truckers that physically look like Jagmeet Singh than there are that look like Justin Trudeau, but in the Public Relations painting of this protest that has been inconvenient to point out it seems. That would destroy the narrative of the misogynistic racist descending upon Ottawa. It’s bizarre.

The court of public opinion in this instance has also been dominated from Ottawa via the media days before this “Convoy” arrived with statements from both the Prime Minister and the leader of the NDP making this out to be like Genghis Khan descending upon Ottawa. Again, bizarre.

Your bearded guy above makes some very interesting points with respect to the concept of this playbook, with the narrative of racism being imposed without factoring in that the old guy white trucker is quickly becoming like the dodo bird, & the new face of this Industry doesn’t fit Justin’s narrative whatsoever.

We are in a world of global supply chains and the next day shipping economy with little warehousing capacity (except crap from China for Amazon & Wish & Walmart), with increased costs for damn near everything related to shipping & transportation from fuel to trucks to parts to insurance to fuel & road taxes to ELD’s and so on and so forth. Something has got to give and what that is I honestly don’t know. Maybe it’s a forest for the trees thing for me but I honestly don’t know.

I will say that for this protest currently in Ottawa, not giving them a voice whatsoever like every other movement, while demonizing them before they even arrived, that’s a big mistake. I can see that coming back to bite before this is over, whatever this is.

Personally, I wasn't for the Convoy because I didn't see a point.

Most of the 'mandates' they wanted to protest are provincial, not Federal. Going to Ottawa would only solve one or two issues at most. Meanwhile, those same people aren't working, which means things aren't being transported which digs into the 'supply chain issues' so many are crying about. Hell, our local grocery store was out of quite a bit because of those supply chain issues. So I get it, it's real.

Why they wanted to exacerbate the issue was beyond me.

But then the wing-nuts and nut jobs started to join in, and take over, the narratives.

Peaceful protest, sure, I can agree to that.

Swastikas, Nazi flags, Confederate flags and of all things Trump flags... No, this was no longer about 'mandates' but a wide open platform for people to bitch and moan about the "Bad side" which varied. It wasn't about mandates. It was about stupidity and extremism. That was the line, that and other things.

Now, now they just need to go the hell home and back to work.
 

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Personally, I wasn't for the Convoy because I didn't see a point.

Most of the 'mandates' they wanted to protest are provincial, not Federal. Going to Ottawa would only solve one or two issues at most. Meanwhile, those same people aren't working, which means things aren't being transported which digs into the 'supply chain issues' so many are crying about. Hell, our local grocery store was out of quite a bit because of those supply chain issues. So I get it, it's real.

Why they wanted to exacerbate the issue was beyond me.

But then the wing-nuts and nut jobs started to join in, and take over, the narratives.

Peaceful protest, sure, I can agree to that.

Swastikas, Nazi flags, Confederate flags and of all things Trump flags... No, this was no longer about 'mandates' but a wide open platform for people to bitch and moan about the "Bad side" which varied. It wasn't about mandates. It was about stupidity and extremism. That was the line, that and other things.

Now, now they just need to go the hell home and back to work.
Personally I wasn’t for the convoy either because I didn’t see being vaccinated as much of a big thing in all honesty. My girlfriend and I were both double Vaxxed and double boosted before New Year’s Eve. Neither of us has grown a second head yet, etc…

I am sure not for blocking the border crossing which has a real impact!! That’s just messed up! I can tell you that nobody in our fleet was involved in that nonsense because we don’t have the time for it nor the finances to send somebody to Ottawa to be an Arsehole.

From the little bits and pieces I’ve seen in the media it seems like they’re grasping at straws with respect to the hangers on & various other wingnuts that attached themselves to this “convoy.” After the first weekend so two or three days in I thought they made their point whatever their point was (?) & it was done. Trudeau refused to meet with them and demonized them before they ever arrived in an impressive public relations campaign that even Jagnut jumped onto. I figured that was the end of it.

I know it sounds cynical but Trudeau justinified his decision later on using Covid exposure, and then claimed that his kids had Covid when this protest hadn’t left. Maybe this time he happens to not be lying or maybe…who knows?… but it was just way too convenient of timing to be coincidental coming from this clown.

Yes that drunk woman & her friends with open liquor we’re at the tomb for the unknown soldier…& she was videotaped dancing on this tomb, while her friends were waving their little Quebec flags in one hand with their beer cans in the other. This was caught on video because everybody carries a video camera on their phone at this point in time. That woman and her friends should be spanked!!

Yes somebody put a ball cap and a flag around Terry Fox a statue and a sign in his hands and that’s hugely disrespectful, and somehow there’s no video footage of this either from someone’s cell phone or CCTV.
That’s almost bizarre by itself.

Yes I have also seen the same two pictures over and over of the same people with either the Nazi flag or the swastika scribbled onto a Canadian flag. I agree that those people are absolute idiots. Same with a few confederate flags etc…. And yes those people are idiots.

On that note what I’m seeing in the media looks like a huge overreaction compared to all of the other protests that we’ve seen in the last few years, & yes I believe that I have watched most if not all of the videos that you posted by Beau.

We both agree that for the most part and I’m sure there’s some exceptions, out of the thousands of people in Ottawa protesting this has been mostly peaceful. No looting and no murders and no burning up churches or courthouses or police stations or parliament. No January 6th. In addition these protesters in Ottawa have really been given no voice as compared to all of the other protests that I’ve seen in the last couple years. Their are only real spokesman that I’ve seen have been both Justin & Jagmeet who both refuse to speak to these smelly peasants.

Now I can’t say where I’ve heard this because I’ve heard so much recently, but leadership when it agrees to talk to somebody or some thing that shares the same opinion with it is easy…. But real leader ship is not afraid to discuss matters with those that don’t hold the same opinion as they do. The last I heard both the Prime Minister and the leader of the NDP were elected public officials. On that note something really stinks here.
 

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Personally, I wasn't for the Convoy because I didn't see a point.
The point was for the studio to cash in on a passing craze. Peckinpaugh was trying to support his habit, Ali McGraw was trying to electro-shock some life into her fading career, and who the hell ever knows why Kristofferson does anything?

But maybe I misunderstand the question. . .