Wokeism will DESTROY civilization… here’s how to stop it before it’s too late

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Three examples for you.

Will add in a Lancet article too.


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Three examples for you.

Will add in a Lancet article too.

A lot there to digest.And somewhat confusing. A quick read suggests they are trying to change the physical body to treat a mental disorder.
 

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Three examples for you.

Will add in a Lancet article too.

So it is psychological not physical thanks for the articles
 
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Serryah

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A lot there to digest.And somewhat confusing. A quick read suggests they are trying to change the physical body to treat a mental disorder.

No one has said that it wasn't a mentally based issue.

But you do raise a valid "point". Since it is mental issue as suggested, then which is the right 'answer' to achieve the safety and health of the patient, the parts of the body are the "correct" identifiers and should be adhered to or the mental knowledge that you are ___ Gender?
 

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So it is psychological not physical thanks for the articles

No one has said that it wasn't a mentally based issue.

That also does not make it somehow a horrible/evil/bad thing. I think you are trying to make it seem too simplified when if you read the links and look at the research, it's far, far from it.
 

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No one has said that it wasn't a mentally based issue.

But you do raise a valid "point". Since it is mental issue as suggested, then which is the right 'answer' to achieve the safety and health of the patient, the parts of the body are the "correct" identifiers and should be adhered to or the mental knowledge that you are ___ Gender?
I believe that the people who are 'confused' about their gender have altered mental pathways. To correct this, there are 2 options: 1. fix the pathways. 2. Fix the body to match the pathways. There is no known method right now to do #1 without any harm to the patient so #2 is the only option to 'balance' the mental pathway and perceived gender.

Given this, I take the approach that since their choice has no bearing on my life, I don't care. If I use the wrong pronoun, I will correct the pronoun next time I address them. Since most bathrooms have stalls, there is no issue there. I have yet to see how their choice can affect me in any way.

I do think it is unfair to allow genetically born males to compete in female sports. But if we are going to allow that, we should just get rid of the male and female split and have one set of sports. That will solve that problem. They could also solve the problem by putting hormone replacements on the banned substances list for competitions.

That is my opinion and I am quite happy with it.
 

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No one has said that it wasn't a mentally based issue.

That also does not make it somehow a horrible/evil/bad thing. I think you are trying to make it seem too simplified when if you read the links and look at the research, it's far, far from it.
So what I posted yesterday you agree with?

Gender and desire are Two different aspects, if you are a boy and desire to be a girl there nothing stopping you from pretending to be a girl, but there is always that reminder on your body that you are indeed a boy.
 
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Serryah

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So what I posted yesterday you agree with?

No. Because in that post you suggest that desire is what has a Trans person want to be trans when it's not. Being Trans is not something you can just turn on or off like desire.

And also, gender is mentally based so that 'reminder on your body' doesn't signify gender, but a sexual organ.
 

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No. Because in that post you suggest that desire is what has a Trans person want to be trans when it's not. Being Trans is not something you can just turn on or off like desire.

And also, gender is mentally based so that 'reminder on your body' doesn't signify gender, but a sexual organ.
One can live without sex , one will die without peeing . It isn’t only a sexual organ .
 
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Serryah

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So when he would say that he identifies as a woman is not a desire to be a woman?

Okay just how are you meaning 'desire' both before and here? Because to me desire is not just strongly wanting something, it's also an emotion that can be ignored/turned off, as it were. A person who is Trans can't "turn off" or "ignore" that need - not 'desire' - to be the opposite gender.

The organ does not remind him he is/was a male?

It's part of the gender dysphoria - can you, yourself, imagine having a vagina?