Trump expected to nominate Judge Amy Coney Barrett to U.S. Supreme Court Saturday
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360 million people in the USA, 1/2 probably Republican and all you could come up with is 3 examples from people straying from their values..
BTW, you should thank your Mother for choosing life.
I'm an adoptee like Boomer and I would like to meet my biological mother and thank her for making the hard choice in the late '60's, and see pictures of my children she gifted me with her decision.
He did? I've watched it twice and while he did discuss the Affordable Care Act and Roe V Wade and how her presence on the SCOTUS may come into play concerning these issues, at no time did he call her a racist for adopting two Haitian children. He didn't say that she couldn't do her job because of the number of children she has and at no time during the debate did he utter the words Catholic nut. No, rather he spoke of issues that matter to American voters. Issues that will have an influence on what takes place in a voting booth when someone is staring down at that ballot. Isn't that what a Presidential candidate is supposed to do? Especially during a debate with who he or she is running against? Isn't that why they were there? I mean, it is called a debate for a reason right?
More to point and if you were actually listening to the debate rather than tuning in to see how bombastic Trump could be, Biden was the one who, between the two, actually answered the question which was put forward by the moderator regarding Barrett, which was:
Gentlemen, a lot of people been waiting for this night, so let’s get going. Our first subject is the Supreme Court. President Trump, you nominated Amy Coney Barrett over the weekend to succeed the late Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the Court. You say the Constitution is clear about your obligation and the Senate’s to consider a nominee to the Court. Vice President Biden, you say that this is an effort by the President and Republicans to jam through on an appointment in what you call an abuse of power. My first question to both of you tonight, why are you right in the argument you make and your opponent wrong? And where do you think a Justice Barrett would take the court? President Trump, in this first segment, you go first. Two minutes.
Focus now, concentrate on the part of the moderator's question where he asked where they think a Justice Barrett would take the court.
Trump's response:
Thank you very much, Chris. I will tell you very simply. We won the election. Elections have consequences. We have the Senate, we have the White House, and we have a phenomenal nominee respected by all. Top, top academic, good in every way. Good in every way. In fact, some of her biggest endorsers are very liberal people from Notre Dame and other places. So I think she’s going to be fantastic. We have plenty of time. Even if we did it after the election itself. I have a lot of time after the election, as you know. So I think that she will be outstanding. She’s going to be as good as anybody that has served on that court. We really feel that. We have a professor at Notre Dame, highly respected by all, said she’s the single greatest student he’s ever had. He’s been a professor for a long time at a great school.
And we won the election and therefore we have the right to choose her, and very few people knowingly would say otherwise. And by the way, the Democrats, they wouldn’t even think about not doing it. The only difference is they’d try and do it faster. There’s no way they would give it up. They had Merrick Garland, but the problem is they didn’t have the election so they were stopped. And probably that would happen in reverse, also. Definitely would happen in reverse. So we won the election and we have the right to do it, Chris.
Biden's response:
The American people have a right to have a say in who the Supreme Court nominee is and that say occurs when they vote for United States Senators and when they vote for the President of United States. They’re not going to get that chance now because we’re in the middle of an election already. The election has already started. Tens of thousands of people already voted and so the thing that should happen is we should wait. We should wait and see what the outcome of this election is because that’s the only way the American people get to express their view is by who they elect as President and who they elect as Vice President.
Now, what’s at stake here is the President’s made it clear, he wants to get rid of the Affordable Care Act. He’s been running on that, he ran on that and he’s been governing on that. He’s in the Supreme Court right now trying to get rid of the Affordable Care Act, which will strip 20 million people from having health insurance now, if it goes into court. And the justice, I’m not opposed to the justice, she seems like a very fine person. But she’s written, before she went in the bench, which is her right, that she thinks that the Affordable Care Act is not Constitutional. The other thing that’s on the court, and if it’s struck down, what happens? Women’s rights are fundamentally changed. Once again, a woman could pay more money because she has a pre-existing condition of pregnancy. They’re able to charge women more for the same exact procedure a man gets.
And that ended when we, in fact, passed the Affordable Care Act, and there’s a hundred million people who have pre-existing conditions and they’ll be taken away as well. Those pre-existing conditions, insurance companies are going to love this. And so it’s just not appropriate to do this before this election. If he wins the election and the Senate is Republican, then he goes forward. If not, we should wait until February.
And so you see, Biden actually answered the moderator's question that was posed to them whereas Trump, in true Trump fashion, did not. Agree with Biden or not in his response, he actually engaged in debate, how dare he!
This how ridiculous some of you are acting. This of course is satire but I'm sure some of you believe it.
Do you really believe that half of the American population is Republican? Are you serious? Where to start, well okay, lets do it this way. The population in the USA is roughly 330 million people, not 360 million. Out of that number and according to data collected in 2019 a little over 255 million of those people people were of voting age. Breaking that down even further (stick with me Boom, I know math is hard) data reflects that 31% identified as Democrat, 25% identified as Republican and 40% identified as Independent. So that makes roughly 64 million of those people Republican. Now, how many out of that population are Republican politicians who are staunch pro-lifers, because you know (clutch those pearls Boomer) not all of them are. GASP! That's the population I focused on. The ones who were in your face openly decrying abortion while the wife or mistress were having them performed.
And you've already said that I should thank my Mother, it failed before and it fails now.
This how ridiculous some of you are acting. This of course is satire but I'm sure some of you believe it.
Who? Name one person in this forum who you think would believe this.
That is a Catholic ritual: communion; partaking of the body and blood of Jesus. It is symbolic of the last supper. It always seemed a bit of a cannibalistic ritual to me. I was raised Catholic.
I'm fully aware, being Catholic myself but that's not how Boomer was trying to portray it.
I don't care that she's Catholic.
Her rulings are highly questionable, but honestly that doesn't bother me as much as the following does:
IF it's true that she's part of this sub-sect of Catholicism that people say she is, what concerns me is that she has submit to the will of her husband, and IF this is true, then how will she resolve the conflict between what her husband wills and her duty as Justice?
Which oath will take precedence, the Oath of office as Justice or oath to obey her Husband as Wife in an extremist cult?
Hopefully these questions will be asked and answered honestly.
Her rulings are highly questionable, but honestly that doesn't bother me as much as the following does:
IF it's true that she's part of this sub-sect of Catholicism that people say she is, what concerns me is that she has submit to the will of her husband, and IF this is true, then how will she resolve the conflict between what her husband wills and her duty as Justice?
Which oath will take precedence, the Oath of office as Justice or oath to obey her Husband as Wife in an extremist cult?
Hopefully these questions will be asked and answered honestly.
If that were true she wouldn't be on any court in the land were she needs independent thought to make decisions in the court room
Nope but reiterated (your word, not mine) suggests that Biden was simply spewing some sort of propaganda when what he in fact did was answer a direct question asked by the moderator of the debate. I thought he answered it quite well.