Trump at 1,300 days plus

taxslave

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Don't get arrested for rioting then.
 

Serryah

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How about getting "arrested" (shot) for walking down a street, playing with a toy gun in a public park (at age 12), or being a mentally disabled child running because you're afraid and don't understand?

(That last one is White.)


Or a social worker who is telling police the person they're with is autistic, doesn't get it and they shoot the *person there to help* despite their laying on the ground with their hands up.

I fully agree - deal with the people rioting legally - but not everyone protesting is a rioter or looter. Saying that is the case is just wanting to play ignorant and not deal with the actual issues going on.
 

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Or a social worker who is telling police the person they're with is autistic, doesn't get it and they shoot the *person there to help* despite their laying on the ground with their hands up.

I fully agree - deal with the people rioting legally - but not everyone protesting is a rioter or looter. Saying that is the case is just wanting to play ignorant and not deal with the actual issues going on.
Yes it is always a good idea to peacefully protest in the middle of a riot .
 

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Or a social worker who is telling police the person they're with is autistic, doesn't get it and they shoot the *person there to help* despite their laying on the ground with their hands up.
I fully agree - deal with the people rioting legally - but not everyone protesting is a rioter or looter. Saying that is the case is just wanting to play ignorant and not deal with the actual issues going on.
When the other cops asked Officer Aledda why he fired, he responded "I don't know."

It's a default value.
 

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I've noticed the media is blowing the ratio of peaceful protest to actual rioting out of proportion. Even in places like Portland and Seattle, I've heard local residents say the coverage of the protests (and any kind of physical altercation with riot squads), is confined to 3-5 city blocks. Portland has 2.5 million people and Seattle has 4.0 million people.
To listen to some right wing news media, one would think the whole city is in complete chaos. There are people who are criminals, just looking for an excuse to loot, burn, or assault people, but that seems far from the norm. Additionally, the Police may be inflaming tensions, by storming protesters, and beating or assaulting them.
If anyone can recall the Vancouver Stanley Cup riot, and the destruction. There were relatively few people who were injured or killed, and that was on a far larger scale, as there were hundreds of thousands of drunk and rowdy hockey fans in the Downtown area. If the Cops had decided to storm the fans, and beat or stun them, I believe the riots would ahve been far worse.


Right wing media doesn't engage in facts. Even state run media outlet Fox News says their "anchors" aren't reporting facts. Pointedly, right wing-nut Fox News "reporter" Tucker Carlson, and a judge agreed. The former playmate Trump had an affair with tried to sue Carlson for Defamation and didn't succeed, but at least it made FOX admit that they don't "report" the facts. They're just an entertainment show.

[In] the context of “Tucker Carlson Tonight,” the Court finds that Mr. Carlson’s invocation of “extortion” against Ms. McDougal is nonactionable hyperbole, intended to frame the debate in the guest commentator segment that followed Mr. Carlson’s soliloquy. As Defendant notes, Mr. Carlson himself aims to “challenge political correctness and media bias.” This “general tenor” of the show should then inform a viewer that he is not “stating actual facts” about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in “exaggeration” and “non-literal commentary”… Given Mr. Carlson’s reputation, any reasonable viewer ‘arrive with an appropriate amount of skepticism’…”

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Military 'Will Not Follow' Unlawful Trump Orders Over Election, House Armed Services Chairman Says

President Donald Trump will not command the loyalty of the military should he lose the election and try to co-opt them to back any challenge of the results, the chairman of the House Committee on Armed Services has said.
Trailing in the polls to his Democratic rival Joe Biden, Trump did not commit to a peaceful transfer of power if he loses on November 3, telling reporters "we're going to see what happens."
The president also again cast aspersions on the integrity of mail-in voting which, without evidence, he claims will lead to widespread fraud.
His opponents fear Trump is laying the groundwork for a challenge to the results that could involve the military. But Rep. Adam Smith (D-WA) told CNN that defense leaders assured him they would not serve Trump after the inauguration on January 20 if he loses.
I can't imagine him conceding,� says Rep. Adam Smith about Trump refusing to commit to a peaceful transfer of power. I don't think this election is going to be close. But I think the President is still going to make up whatever number he has to make up and claim it was rigged.� pic.twitter.com/UZGGp1pvmH
— OutFrontCNN (@OutFrontCNN) September 24, 2020
The armed services chairman told the network that military leaders told him they "serve one president at a time," and while he does not expect Trump to go quietly, after January 20 "all the layers of government will no longer serve him, they will serve Joe Biden—if he wins and if he is sworn in—and there is nothing he can do about that."
"The second thing is: Does he try to order the military to defy that? What the military has made clear to me is they will not follow an unlawful order. Period," Smith told CNN.
"For instance, if the president had ordered them into a city, as he was threatening to do, they were prepared to say no, that is not a lawful order, we have no lawful reason to go there.
"Their oath is to the Constitution. Much to Donald Trump's chagrin, it is not to him. It is to the laws and Constitution of our country and they will uphold that oath."


More: https://www.newsweek.com/trump-election-military-transfer-power-1534208
 
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Military 'Will Not Follow' Unlawful Trump Orders Over Election, House Armed Services Chairman Says
President Donald Trump will not command the loyalty of the military should he lose the election and try to co-opt them to back any challenge of the results, the chairman of the House Committee on Armed Services has said.
Trailing in the polls to his Democratic rival Joe Biden, Trump did not commit to a peaceful transfer of power if he loses on November 3, telling reporters "we're going to see what happens."
The president also again cast aspersions on the integrity of mail-in voting which, without evidence, he claims will lead to widespread fraud.
His opponents fear Trump is laying the groundwork for a challenge to the results that could involve the military. But Rep. Adam Smith (D-WA) told CNN that defense leaders assured him they would not serve Trump after the inauguration on January 20 if he loses.
I can't imagine him conceding,� says Rep. Adam Smith about Trump refusing to commit to a peaceful transfer of power. I don't think this election is going to be close. But I think the President is still going to make up whatever number he has to make up and claim it was rigged.� pic.twitter.com/UZGGp1pvmH
— OutFrontCNN (@OutFrontCNN) September 24, 2020
The armed services chairman told the network that military leaders told him they "serve one president at a time," and while he does not expect Trump to go quietly, after January 20 "all the layers of government will no longer serve him, they will serve Joe Biden—if he wins and if he is sworn in—and there is nothing he can do about that."
"The second thing is: Does he try to order the military to defy that? What the military has made clear to me is they will not follow an unlawful order. Period," Smith told CNN.
"For instance, if the president had ordered them into a city, as he was threatening to do, they were prepared to say no, that is not a lawful order, we have no lawful reason to go there.
"Their oath is to the Constitution. Much to Donald Trump's chagrin, it is not to him. It is to the laws and Constitution of our country and they will uphold that oath."
More: https://www.newsweek.com/trump-election-military-transfer-power-1534208
Fake news.
 

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Military 'Will Not Follow' Unlawful Trump Orders Over Election, House Armed Services Chairman Says

President Donald Trump will not command the loyalty of the military should he lose the election and try to co-opt them to back any challenge of the results, the chairman of the House Committee on Armed Services has said.
Trailing in the polls to his Democratic rival Joe Biden, Trump did not commit to a peaceful transfer of power if he loses on November 3, telling reporters "we're going to see what happens."
The president also again cast aspersions on the integrity of mail-in voting which, without evidence, he claims will lead to widespread fraud.
His opponents fear Trump is laying the groundwork for a challenge to the results that could involve the military. But Rep. Adam Smith (D-WA) told CNN that defense leaders assured him they would not serve Trump after the inauguration on January 20 if he loses.
I can't imagine him conceding,� says Rep. Adam Smith about Trump refusing to commit to a peaceful transfer of power. I don't think this election is going to be close. But I think the President is still going to make up whatever number he has to make up and claim it was rigged.� pic.twitter.com/UZGGp1pvmH
— OutFrontCNN (@OutFrontCNN) September 24, 2020
The armed services chairman told the network that military leaders told him they "serve one president at a time," and while he does not expect Trump to go quietly, after January 20 "all the layers of government will no longer serve him, they will serve Joe Biden—if he wins and if he is sworn in—and there is nothing he can do about that."
"The second thing is: Does he try to order the military to defy that? What the military has made clear to me is they will not follow an unlawful order. Period," Smith told CNN.
"For instance, if the president had ordered them into a city, as he was threatening to do, they were prepared to say no, that is not a lawful order, we have no lawful reason to go there.
"Their oath is to the Constitution. Much to Donald Trump's chagrin, it is not to him. It is to the laws and Constitution of our country and they will uphold that oath."


More: https://www.newsweek.com/trump-election-military-transfer-power-1534208
Kootenay hippie loves American Millitary !
 

Mockingbird

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Military 'Will Not Follow' Unlawful Trump Orders Over Election, House Armed Services Chairman Says
President Donald Trump will not command the loyalty of the military should he lose the election and try to co-opt them to back any challenge of the results, the chairman of the House Committee on Armed Services has said.
Trailing in the polls to his Democratic rival Joe Biden, Trump did not commit to a peaceful transfer of power if he loses on November 3, telling reporters "we're going to see what happens."
The president also again cast aspersions on the integrity of mail-in voting which, without evidence, he claims will lead to widespread fraud.
His opponents fear Trump is laying the groundwork for a challenge to the results that could involve the military. But Rep. Adam Smith (D-WA) told CNN that defense leaders assured him they would not serve Trump after the inauguration on January 20 if he loses.
I can't imagine him conceding,� says Rep. Adam Smith about Trump refusing to commit to a peaceful transfer of power. I don't think this election is going to be close. But I think the President is still going to make up whatever number he has to make up and claim it was rigged.� pic.twitter.com/UZGGp1pvmH
— OutFrontCNN (@OutFrontCNN) September 24, 2020
The armed services chairman told the network that military leaders told him they "serve one president at a time," and while he does not expect Trump to go quietly, after January 20 "all the layers of government will no longer serve him, they will serve Joe Biden—if he wins and if he is sworn in—and there is nothing he can do about that."
"The second thing is: Does he try to order the military to defy that? What the military has made clear to me is they will not follow an unlawful order. Period," Smith told CNN.
"For instance, if the president had ordered them into a city, as he was threatening to do, they were prepared to say no, that is not a lawful order, we have no lawful reason to go there.
"Their oath is to the Constitution. Much to Donald Trump's chagrin, it is not to him. It is to the laws and Constitution of our country and they will uphold that oath."
More: https://www.newsweek.com/trump-election-military-transfer-power-1534208

And that's what drives Trump nuts. Any person or entity that doesn't display loyalty to him and him alone.
 

Serryah

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Military 'Will Not Follow' Unlawful Trump Orders Over Election, House Armed Services Chairman Says

President Donald Trump will not command the loyalty of the military should he lose the election and try to co-opt them to back any challenge of the results, the chairman of the House Committee on Armed Services has said.
Trailing in the polls to his Democratic rival Joe Biden, Trump did not commit to a peaceful transfer of power if he loses on November 3, telling reporters "we're going to see what happens."
The president also again cast aspersions on the integrity of mail-in voting which, without evidence, he claims will lead to widespread fraud.
His opponents fear Trump is laying the groundwork for a challenge to the results that could involve the military. But Rep. Adam Smith (D-WA) told CNN that defense leaders assured him they would not serve Trump after the inauguration on January 20 if he loses.
I can't imagine him conceding,� says Rep. Adam Smith about Trump refusing to commit to a peaceful transfer of power. I don't think this election is going to be close. But I think the President is still going to make up whatever number he has to make up and claim it was rigged.� pic.twitter.com/UZGGp1pvmH
— OutFrontCNN (@OutFrontCNN) September 24, 2020
The armed services chairman told the network that military leaders told him they "serve one president at a time," and while he does not expect Trump to go quietly, after January 20 "all the layers of government will no longer serve him, they will serve Joe Biden—if he wins and if he is sworn in—and there is nothing he can do about that."
"The second thing is: Does he try to order the military to defy that? What the military has made clear to me is they will not follow an unlawful order. Period," Smith told CNN.
"For instance, if the president had ordered them into a city, as he was threatening to do, they were prepared to say no, that is not a lawful order, we have no lawful reason to go there.
"Their oath is to the Constitution. Much to Donald Trump's chagrin, it is not to him. It is to the laws and Constitution of our country and they will uphold that oath."


More: https://www.newsweek.com/trump-election-military-transfer-power-1534208


Sadly, it's the underlined, bolded part that will be the issue.

Which is why Trump is working to make sure that if he loses Biden won't be sworn in, because he's going to make so much chaos no one will be able to trust the results.
 

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Trump SURPRISE Press Conference after his Supreme Court Announcement

Most transparent and accessible POTUS in history.