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[pgs]

Teachers AREN'T paid enough to teach kids, I'll agree with that.


But the basic things that should be had by a teacher should not be their responsibility, either, and that's what I'm talking about.

And yes, I know, teacher pays come out of the Ed. budget, but all that plays into the talk to the actual experts - the ones in the system currently - to see where savings and money make up can be had.

If they scrapped their union dues take out pay would be higher .

 

[Serryah]

Emboldened a couple of your pity party comments for ya from your original post... No assumptions

Except you forgot this part to bold of the post:

I don't just blame Trump or Rich people...


I bolded it, italicized it and made it bigger, just for you.

And I also explained later why I was, at this time, specifically focusing on Trump though:

Yeah, I focus on Trump et al right now, because they are the ones in charge in the US.


If this came up under another leader and education was this bad, I'd be just the same then.

So yes, lots of assumptions on your part.

There's a reason why the youth demographic is leaving select jurisdictions, East coast communities very much included and much of that reason is based on a culture of victimhood and utter reliance on gubmint for everything

LOL, omg do you really believe this BS?

Sure, there are *some* morons around who have this case of victimhood and reliance on the government... and guess what, those of us who aren't them hate them as much as you do.

If not more, sometimes. Gods know I hate the lazy fuks who don't do a damn thing but scam the government because they "don't feel like working" and have to blame something or someone for why they can't work.

Thankfully I'm not like that even though it's actually hurt me in the end.

All you did was blame Trump and 'rich' people.

Told you why, see above.

Exactly how did some rich person cause the public education to fail?

Before I answer this, you want to state it to be specifically the US or Canada, because my answer will be different depending on where you're talking about.

... That's right, they didn't but as you are a victim and entitled, who better to blame than 'rich' people

Not a victim, and certainly not entitled. But man that's funny to read.

And magically, more money is the solution... Sure, that same solution is the never ending go-to answer and sure it's been tried many many times, and sure, it doesn't produce a result, but why not try again, right?

Money solely for the system, no, no more money there won't solve things, because it's not just money that's made it a broken system.


Teachers though are a whole different issue.






You 'got' yourself... Time and time again, in fact

Just so we're clear - you're not a teacher, you have no idea what the job entails, you know nothing of the alternatives BUT you are certain that whatever they are paid, it ain't enough.

No, not a teacher, but I have friends who are and we talk so yes, I know what it entails. Alternative depends on what you mean cause that covers a lot of ideas. And yes, I am certain that what teachers are paid, it is far from enough.

Thanks... And you wonder why someone refers to you as being part of the entitlement culture

I wonder because I'm pretty sure you're using entitlement in the wrong way and you mean something else.

Show me a comparative result relative to student achievement (ie. their job) and then we can talk about rates of compensation

I honestly have no idea what you're getting at here. Comparative result of what to what? A student's job to... what? Grades? GPA? SAT scores? Future in Education with a CC vs. University?

And rates of compensation for who? For what? To say a teacher gets paid at a certain level per student that graduates at a certain level?

Maybe better explain it for my poor, East Cost, entitled brain, cause obviously I didn't understand your so further edumacated talented vocals.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Except you forgot this part to bold of the post:
I don't just blame Trump or Rich people...
I bolded it, italicized it and made it bigger, just for you.

The rich and our politicians can justly be blamed for our economic woes. They are the ones who pushed the narrative that we can have lower taxes, higher expenditures, and balanced the budget through "growth!" or some other magical formula.

Nobody likes paying taxes, but most folk get that you have to pay your bills. Weakening that conviction, and pandering to the "free money" desire that drives lottery ticket sales is irresponsible to the point of criminality.

And I also explained later why I was, at this time, specifically focusing on Trump though:

Well, he is responsible for promoting record deficits. And in a time of economic prosperity, too. Exactly the time we should be paying down the debt.

 

[Tygerbright]

Except you forgot this part to bold of the post:

I don't just blame Trump or Rich people...


I bolded it, italicized it and made it bigger, just for you.

And I also explained later why I was, at this time, specifically focusing on Trump though:

Yeah, I focus on Trump et al right now, because they are the ones in charge in the US.


If this came up under another leader and education was this bad, I'd be just the same then.

So yes, lots of assumptions on your part.







LOL, omg do you really believe this BS?

Sure, there are *some* morons around who have this case of victimhood and reliance on the government... and guess what, those of us who aren't them hate them as much as you do.

If not more, sometimes. Gods know I hate the lazy fuks who don't do a damn thing but scam the government because they "don't feel like working" and have to blame something or someone for why they can't work.

Thankfully I'm not like that even though it's actually hurt me in the end.






Told you why, see above.





Before I answer this, you want to state it to be specifically the US or Canada, because my answer will be different depending on where you're talking about.





Not a victim, and certainly not entitled. But man that's funny to read.








Money solely for the system, no, no more money there won't solve things, because it's not just money that's made it a broken system.


Teachers though are a whole different issue.






You 'got' yourself... Time and time again, in fact






No, not a teacher, but I have friends who are and we talk so yes, I know what it entails. Alternative depends on what you mean cause that covers a lot of ideas. And yes, I am certain that what teachers are paid, it is far from enough.





I wonder because I'm pretty sure you're using entitlement in the wrong way and you mean something else.





I honestly have no idea what you're getting at here. Comparative result of what to what? A student's job to... what? Grades? GPA? SAT scores? Future in Education with a CC vs. University?

And rates of compensation for who? For what? To say a teacher gets paid at a certain level per student that graduates at a certain level?

Maybe better explain it for my poor, East Cost, entitled brain, cause obviously I didn't understand your so further edumacated talented vocals.

Wow Captain really sounds like he left the caps off of ALL the glue.

 

[Tygerbright]

The rich and our politicians can justly be blamed for our economic woes. They are the ones who pushed the narrative that we can have lower taxes, higher expenditures, and balanced the budget through "growth!" or some other magical formula.

Nobody likes paying taxes, but most folk get that you have to pay your bills. Weakening that conviction, and pandering to the "free money" desire that drives lottery ticket sales is irresponsible to the point of criminality.


Well, he is responsible for promoting record deficits. And in a time of economic prosperity, too. Exactly the time we should be paying down the debt.

In truth though almost all Canadian National debt is from under the Con governments.

 

[Jinentonix]

Absolutely fuking agreed; this trash should be tossed away or better yet, castrated then shot.

(wait, is that not liberal enough for your judgment of me?)


That said, there are enough people in BLM now that this piece of lowlife can be scraped off existence and someone who actually should be in that leadership can take over and do some good. I won't hold this garbage up as the total sum of what all BLM is and should be.

Really? Patrice Cullors, co-founder of BLM proclaimed they are all trained Marxists. While quite a few of them have gone on some serious anti-White, anti-Semitic rants. Hence my Simpsons's thread about BLM being commie-nazis. Child sexual abuse aside, the more prominent members of BLM are still utter pieces of shit. The founder of BLM South Carolina recently channeled his inner Hitler referring to Whites and Jews as "subhuman". The founder of BLM Toronto called White people defects, subhuman and a said quite a few other racially charged things that would absolutely DESTROY a White person's life if they ever said shit like that about anyone who wasn't White. But noooo, the f*cking racist c*nt gets a goddam award for it. And there's good ol' John Tory posing in the picture, looking rather uncomfortable about supporting someone who claims he's a defect and subhuman just because he's White, because he's too much of a chicken-shit mother f*cker like the rest of the so-called moderates on the left to say anything or call the pieces of shit out on their overt racism.


Some BLM activists like to claim that "White silence is violence". If that's the case then the deafening silence of the so-called moderates on the left to the actions of the left-wing extremists must mean they condone their actions.


Here's an interesting read by a proclaimed "progressive" about how the Left's circular firing squad is destroying their political brand. Although it's a case study of Canada, it's pretty much the same throughout the West.


https://quillette.com/2019/04/15/ho...-lefts-political-brand-a-canadian-case-study/

 

[gerryh]

In truth though almost all Canadian National debt is from under the Con governments.

Wrong, as usual.

 

[Tygerbright]

Wrong, as usual.

Nope.

 

[Serryah]

Really? Patrice Cullors, co-founder of BLM proclaimed they are all trained Marxists. While quite a few of them have gone on some serious anti-White, anti-Semitic rants. Hence my Simpsons's thread about BLM being commie-nazis. Child sexual abuse aside, the more prominent members of BLM are still utter pieces of shit. The founder of BLM South Carolina recently channeled his inner Hitler referring to Whites and Jews as "subhuman". The founder of BLM Toronto called White people defects, subhuman and a said quite a few other racially charged things that would absolutely DESTROY a White person's life if they ever said shit like that about anyone who wasn't White. But noooo, the f*cking racist c*nt gets a goddam award for it. And there's good ol' John Tory posing in the picture, looking rather uncomfortable about supporting someone who claims he's a defect and subhuman just because he's White, because he's too much of a chicken-shit mother f*cker like the rest of the so-called moderates on the left to say anything or call the pieces of shit out on their overt racism.

Yes, really.


Again, POS... I don't know why you're being a tryhard over trying to convince me some people in BLM are azzholes when I already said I agreed with you...


Comprehension issues perhaps?

Some BLM activists like to claim that "White silence is violence". If that's the case then the deafening silence of the so-called moderates on the left to the actions of the left-wing extremists must mean they condone their actions.

Or maybe you're not paying attention because I hear plenty of people who are decrying the left-wing extremists for their stupidity too...

Here's an interesting read by a proclaimed "progressive" about how the Left's circular firing squad is destroying their political brand. Although it's a case study of Canada, it's pretty much the same throughout the West.


https://quillette.com/2019/04/15/ho...-lefts-political-brand-a-canadian-case-study/

So that I actually agree with the points of the article means... what exactly?

 

[captain morgan]

Except you forgot this part to bold of the post:

I don't just blame Trump or Rich people...

I bolded it, italicized it and made it bigger, just for you.

And I also explained later why I was, at this time, specifically focusing on Trump though:

If this came up under another leader and education was this bad, I'd be just the same then.

So yes, lots of assumptions on your part.

LOL, omg do you really believe this BS?

Sure, there are *some* morons around who have this case of victimhood and reliance on the government... and guess what, those of us who aren't them hate them as much as you do.

If not more, sometimes. Gods know I hate the lazy fuks who don't do a damn thing but scam the government because they "don't feel like working" and have to blame something or someone for why they can't work.

Thankfully I'm not like that even though it's actually hurt me in the end.


Before I answer this, you want to state it to be specifically the US or Canada, because my answer will be different depending on where you're talking about.

Not a victim, and certainly not entitled. But man that's funny to read.

Money solely for the system, no, no more money there won't solve things, because it's not just money that's made it a broken system.

Teachers though are a whole different issue.

No, not a teacher, but I have friends who are and we talk so yes, I know what it entails. Alternative depends on what you mean cause that covers a lot of ideas. And yes, I am certain that what teachers are paid, it is far from enough.

I wonder because I'm pretty sure you're using entitlement in the wrong way and you mean something else.

I honestly have no idea what you're getting at here. Comparative result of what to what? A student's job to... what? Grades? GPA? SAT scores? Future in Education with a CC vs. University?

And rates of compensation for who? For what? To say a teacher gets paid at a certain level per student that graduates at a certain level?

Maybe better explain it for my poor, East Cost, entitled brain, cause obviously I didn't understand your so further edumacated talented vocals.

You were the one to make the decision to lay blame at the feet of politicians (Trump) and 'the rich'. politicians I understand, but the choice to lay responsibility at the feet of some amorphous group you call 'the rich' simply reeks of victimhood and entitlement.

RE: youth demographic leaving the Eastern communities, take up your beef with the census dept of the Cdn Feds - I didn't make this up

 

[Jinentonix]

In truth though almost all Canadian National debt is from under the Con governments.

:lol: :lol: :lol: Pierre Trudeau raised the debt by 738.7%. That's more than EVERY Conservative govt that's been in power, combined! And sonny boy is easily on pace to increase the debt more than any other PM who didn't sit during a world war or a recession.


But thanks for showing us that you like to pull facts out of your ass and call them "truths".

 

[Jinentonix]

 

[taxslave]

Teachers AREN'T paid enough to teach kids, I'll agree with that.
But the basic things that should be had by a teacher should not be their responsibility, either, and that's what I'm talking about.
And yes, I know, teacher pays come out of the Ed. budget, but all that plays into the talk to the actual experts - the ones in the system currently - to see where savings and money make up can be had.

Obviously you do not know what teachers earn and how few hours they work to do that.

 

[Tygerbright]

Obviously you do not know what teachers earn and how few hours they work to do that.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Oh wow that was stunningly ignorant!

 

[Tygerbright]

:lol: :lol: :lol: Pierre Trudeau raised the debt by 738.7%. That's more than EVERY Conservative govt that's been in power, combined! And sonny boy is easily on pace to increase the debt more than any other PM who didn't sit during a world war or a recession.


But thanks for showing us that you like to pull facts out of your ass and call them "truths".

Sorry but actual $ amounts are still literally under the Con banner as the most not your ever so cutesy attempt with %'s.

 

[taxslave]

I don't just blame Trump or Rich people but good effort on assuming.
I blame Trump, I blame wealthy families.
I blame Liberal governments.
I blame Cons.
I blame Dems...
I'll say it a third time, the issue is the people in charge - regardless of party - don't listen to those who are *actually doing the job*, but rather so called 'experts' and others who haven't a clue, or haven't been in any position in the areas in years so they don't know the changes that have gone on.
Yeah, I focus on Trump et al right now, because they are the ones in charge in the US.
Guess what, Poindexter, when NB was under the Liberals, our education sucked azz then too and that was all on them. The Cons have continued the trend... and it's been like that since *I* was a kid.
So take your 'gotcha' moment and store it somewhere since you failed.

No, the problem is we HAVE been listening to the self described experts and they are mostly clueless. The majority of teachers have never really had any other job except part time as students. All they did was get a desk that faces the other way. No concept of reality. What is taught in school aside from basics must reflect the job market, not what interests some teacher. There are no easy answers and it is not a one size fits all subject but for too long we have let the left ruin our education system, ANd education is a provincial responsibility unfortunately so there is no real continuity. Ideally a student from Newfoundland should be able to move to BC and be within a couple of days of the same place in the curriculum. Doesn't happen.

 

[Tygerbright]

TY for highlighting your racism.

 

[taxslave]

Wow Captain really sounds like he left the caps off of ALL the glue.

Then get your nose out of the containers.

 

[taxslave]

In truth though almost all Canadian National debt is from under the Con governments.

Better seek medical help for your delusions while you are at it.

 

[Serryah]

You were the one to make the decision to lay blame at the feet of politicians (Trump) and 'the rich'. politicians I understand, but the choice to lay responsibility at the feet of some amorphous group you call 'the rich' simply reeks of victimhood and entitlement.

...


Okay, it's too hot to deal with your stupid today. You don't want to bother reading what I post, just don't reply, kay? Thanks.

RE: youth demographic leaving the Eastern communities, take up your beef with the census dept of the Cdn Feds - I didn't make this up

Your gibberish still doesn't make sense but whatever, at this point your trolling is making my head hurt.