COVID-19 'Pandemic'

[B00Mer]

Re: COVIDD-19 'Pandemic'

Fauci says experimental coronavirus treatment remdesivir could shorten COVID-19 recovery time

https://www.foxnews.com/science/fau...mdesivir-could-shorten-covid-19-recovery-time

 

[Ron in Regina]

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Delaying herd immunity is costing lives

The current lockdown is protecting the healthy instead of the vulnerable

MARTIN KULLDORFF
29th April 2020
Spiked

....The question is not whether to aim for herd immunity as a strategy, because we will all eventually get there. The question is how to minimise casualties until we get there. Since Covid-19 mortality varies greatly by age, this can only be accomplished through age-specific countermeasures. We need to shield older people and other high-risk groups until they are protected by herd immunity.

Among the individuals exposed to Covid-19, people aged in their 70s have roughly twice the mortality of those in their 60s, 10 times the mortality of those in their 50s, 40 times that of those in their 40s, 100 times that of those in their 30s, and 300 times that of those in their 20s. The over-70s have a mortality that is more than 3,000 times higher than children have. For young people, the risk of death is so low that any reduced levels of mortality during the lockdown might not be due to fewer Covid-19 deaths, but due to fewer traffic accidents.

Considering these numbers, people above 60 must be better protected, while restrictions should be loosened on those below 50. Older people who are vulnerable should stay at home. Food should be delivered and they should receive no visitors. Nursing homes should be isolated together with some of the staff until other staff who have acquired immunity can take over. Younger people should go back to work and school without older coworkers and teachers at their sides.

While the appropriate magnitude of countermeasures depends on time and place as it is necessary to avoid hospital overload, the measures should still be age-dependent. This is how we can minimise the number of deaths by the time this terrible pandemic is over.

Among anti-herders, it is popular to compare the current number of Covid-19 deaths by country and as a proportion of the population. Such comparisons are misleading, as they ignore the existence of herd immunity. A country much closer to herd immunity will ultimately do better even if their current death count is somewhat higher. The key statistic is instead the number of deaths per infected. Those data are still elusive, but comparisons and strategies should not be based on misleading data just because the relevant data are unavailable. etc....
https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/04/29/delaying-herd-immunity-is-costing-lives/

Below is from 04/28/20 after most (certainly not all) have been social distancing, etc...:

Canada:
Cases: 49,817
Recovered: 19,050 (38.2%)
Deaths: 2,852 (5.7%)
Population: 37,742,154

U.S.
Cases: 1.03M
Recovered: 118K (11.5%)
Deaths: 58,948 (5.7%)
Population: 331,002,651

UK
Cases: 161,000
Recovered: ? (?%)
Deaths: 21,687 (13.5%)
Population: 67,886,011

China
Cases: 84,347
Recovered: 77,555 (92.0%)
Deaths: 4,643 (5.5%)
Population: 1,408,526,449

Global
Cases: 3.08M
Recovered: 916K (29.7%)
Deaths: 214K (7%)
Population: 7,800,000,000 or so....

Deaths vs Cases in the UK are an Outlier. The UK should be concerned. I don't trust the math from China, but their Deaths vs Cases are somewhat in the pocket compared to Canada & the USA & against Global numbers, but the UK....not so much. I don't know what I'm seeing there or what the punchline is. Why is it that the Deaths vs Cases in the UK are about double that of Canada or the USA or even the Global average?

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Re: COVIDD-19 'Pandemic'

Just do like this guy did and microwave $5000 Canadian.. that should kill the virus.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

'-) ;-)

He should have injected the money with a disinfectant..... Did he miss the trump cure??

 

[Walter]

Re: COVIDD-19 'Pandemic'

If everyone wore a condom, you would have been tossed out with the trash

But, if the goal/aim is to save just one life.

 

[petros]

Re: COVIDD-19 'Pandemic'

Try singing COVID19 to the tune of Come on Eileen.

Ha ha. Try getting that out of your head.

You're welcome.

 

[B00Mer]

Re: COVIDD-19 'Pandemic'

But, if the goal/aim is to save just one life.

Could be 79,000 dead by August in the USA.. are you that fukked in the head.

So far 227,000 dead world wide from Covid-19

 

[Avro52]

Re: COVIDD-19 'Pandemic'

Could be 79,000 dead by August in the USA.. are you that fukked in the head.
So far 227,000 dead world wide from Covid-19

I guess Walt isn’t pro life after all.

 

[Avro52]

Re: COVIDD-19 'Pandemic'

Try singing COVID19 to the tune of Come on Eileen.
Ha ha. Try getting that out of your head.
You're welcome.

Well, gotta take that one out of the playlist now.

 

[Cliffy]

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[Walter]

Re: COVIDD-19 'Pandemic'

Could be 79,000 dead by August in the USA.. are you that fukked in the head.
So far 227,000 dead world wide from Covid-19

So, about the same as the flu with about the same demographic as the flu.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Re: COVIDD-19 'Pandemic'

So, about the same as the flu with about the same demographic as the flu.

The flu often leads to suicide.

See, folks, what you gotta understand is the Walter's the sort who, if the kitchen stove caught fire and you put it out with an extinguisher, would laugh at you for wasting your effort, because car accidents kill thousands of people each year, so there's no point in taking preventive action against fires.

AKA a damn fool.

 

[B00Mer]

Re: COVIDD-19 'Pandemic'

So, about the same as the flu with about the same demographic as the flu.

Fukk you have got to be the dumbest mother fukker in the world..

Those numbers are only that low because the the social distancing and shutting down the economy..

If they were the way you want things they would be 10 or 20 times higher. Look at Italy you dumb fukk.

Now your not only annoying you're showing your ignorance daily with your silly childishness

 

[Twin_Moose]

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Some finger pointing and some defending, kinda surprised with this CBC article to start changing their narrative

Did the WHO mishandle the global coronavirus pandemic?

The World Health Organization has come under fire for its response to the global coronavirus pandemic, with threats of funding cuts and investigations into its conduct.
But experts say that while the WHO may have made some missteps in its handling of the crisis, the organization is only as powerful as its weakest link.
The United Nations agency was founded in 1948 with a mandate to act as an authority on international health.
Its 194 member states fund the agency and set Its policies, and it is accountable to them. Conversely, it has discretionary power to investigate members' handling of public health crises, but it relies on their co-operation and information sharing.
"An organization like the World Health Organization can only be as strong and as effective as its member states want it to be," said Steven Hoffman, director of the Global Strategy Lab and a global health law professor at York University in Toronto.
"So one of the challenges that the World Health Organization has faced over the last decades is that it keeps on getting new responsibilities and no new resources."
In 2005, its responsibilities increased with the adoption of the International Health Regulations (IHR), a legal agreement signed by all members that requires countries to report emerging disease outbreaks that are at risk of spreading worldwide.
In doing so, experts say the WHO took on a more political role in juggling the domestic interests of its individual members with the interests of the rest of the world.
"They have never performed well in that function — not once," said Amir Attaran, a professor in the Faculties of Law and School of Epidemiology and Public Health at the University of Ottawa, who told CBC's Sunday Edition the WHO should never again preside over a pandemic.
"They cave to diplomatic pressure. Or even if there is not diplomatic pressure, they self-censor."
Attaran said an agency entrusted with ensuring compliance with an agreement like the IHR cannot also operate with the "attitude of a diplomat." …...More

The latest numbers on COVID-19 in Canada

The latest numbers of confirmed and presumptive COVID-19 cases in Canada as of 4 a.m. ET on April 30, 2020:
There are 51,596 confirmed and presumptive cases in Canada.
_ Quebec: 26,594 confirmed (including 1,761 deaths, 6,048 resolved)
_ Ontario: 15,728 confirmed (including 996 deaths, 9,612 resolved)
_ Alberta: 5,165 confirmed (including 87 deaths, 1,953 resolved)
_ British Columbia: 2,087 confirmed (including 109 deaths, 1,305 resolved)
_ Nova Scotia: 935 confirmed (including 28 deaths, 529 resolved)
_ Saskatchewan: 383 confirmed (including 6 deaths, 291 resolved)
_ Manitoba: 262 confirmed (including 6 deaths, 209 resolved), 10 presumptive
_ Newfoundland and Labrador: 258 confirmed (including 3 deaths, 225 resolved)
_ New Brunswick: 118 confirmed (including 114 resolved)
_ Prince Edward Island: 27 confirmed (including 24 resolved)
_ Repatriated Canadians: 13 confirmed (including 13 resolved)
_ Yukon: 11 confirmed (including 8 resolved)
_ Northwest Territories: 5 confirmed (including 5 resolved)
_ Nunavut: No confirmed cases
_ Total: 51,596 (10 presumptive, 51,586 confirmed including 2,996 deaths, 20,336 resolved)

 

[Serryah]

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Everyone jumping on the WHO needs to realize EVERYONE underestimated this virus, or didn't realize what so ever how bad it could be. That's WHY it's the way it is now.



At this point, what does blame do? Sure it makes people feel a little better, but in the end it does nothing right now, because we don't know even now, much about this virus.


But if you need to, blame the Governments of the world, all of them, not just the WHO or China.

 

[Twin_Moose]

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Everyone jumping on the WHO needs to realize EVERYONE underestimated this virus, or didn't realize what so ever how bad it could be. That's WHY it's the way it is now.
At this point, what does blame do? Sure it makes people feel a little better, but in the end it does nothing right now, because we don't know even now, much about this virus.
But if you need to, blame the Governments of the world, all of them, not just the WHO or China.

You should read the article I put up in the Wuhan thread it is an eye opener

 

[Hoid]

Re: COVIDD-19 'Pandemic'

Everyone jumping on the WHO needs to realize EVERYONE underestimated this virus, or didn't realize what so ever how bad it could be. That's WHY it's the way it is now.



At this point, what does blame do? Sure it makes people feel a little better, but in the end it does nothing right now, because we don't know even now, much about this virus.


But if you need to, blame the Governments of the world, all of them, not just the WHO or China.

The Blame Game is what you play when you can't play the Win Game.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

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Just do like this guy did and microwave $5000 Canadian.. that should kill the virus.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Maybe they could get the actor who played Mr. Archer in Slings & Arrows, who delivered the great line "You want people to trust you, don't quote Nixon, ya f*ckin' idiot!" to record a PSA saying "Don't microwave currency, ya f*ckin' idiot!"

 

[B00Mer]

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Maybe they could get the actor who played Mr. Archer in Slings & Arrows, who delivered the great line "You want people to trust you, don't quote Nixon, ya f*ckin' idiot!" to record a PSA saying "Don't microwave currency, ya f*ckin' idiot!"

Well this COVID-19 has really shown humanity for what it is, opportunistic selling needed medical items for 10X the cost, selfish wanting to End A Lockdown and not worrying about those at most risk in society that could die from Covid-19.

Oh and stupidity, nuking $5000, eating food with your surgical gloves on contaminating your food and yourself, and so many other examples...

 

[Blackleaf]

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No, of course not.

 

[Blackleaf]

Re: COVIDD-19 'Pandemic'

Everyone jumping on the WHO needs to realize EVERYONE underestimated this virus, or didn't realize what so ever how bad it could be. That's WHY it's the way it is now.
At this point, what does blame do? Sure it makes people feel a little better, but in the end it does nothing right now, because we don't know even now, much about this virus.
But if you need to, blame the Governments of the world, all of them, not just the WHO or China.

China and the Chinese Health Organisation - formerly known as the World Health Organisation - are entirely to blame for the Wuflu, nobody else.