Federal Carbon Tax ruled to be constitutional

[Avro52]

I've said this in here before. I had a friend who was a Professor of Economics. Here's what he said; "If you ask three economists the same question, you'll get 4 different answers. And the key word in your comment is "can". Can does not necessarily equal "do" or "does".
There's high taxes on tobacco. At least 17% of the country still smokes. There's high taxes on alcohol. Hasn't ended alcoholism or drunk driving. The price of gas in Canada has almost quintupled since I started driving, most of that in the form of taxes. And yet there's more cars on the road than ever.
The City of London, England instituted a new tax (fee) for driving a motor vehicle in the downtown core area. The idea was to reduce congestion and thus reduce emissions in the heart of the city. The idea worked, for a while. At first people balked at the idea of paying just to drive downtown but after a while they decided the convenience was still worth the cost. As such, congestion is pretty much back to where it was before the fee.
The carbon tax is just another one of those taxes. It won't change people's behaviour so much as it will make sure there's no further investment in our resource sector. Keep in mind that about 70% of Canada's GDP comes from resource extraction and exports. Seems kind'a stupid and short sighted to put so much effort into killing that sector off before finding a viable replacement. We've already taken a shit kicking from the US auto industry, let's not be in such a rush to kick the shit out of our own resource sector.

Ah yes.

If cigarettes were taxed less people would smoke more. Booze taxed less drink more. Fuel taxed less use more. Congestion is due to population, lack of good public transportation, cities that were never designed to hold a population so dense like mile high condos side by side and urban sprawl.

 

[Twin_Moose]

And if weed were taxed more would there be less weed?

 

[Avro52]

And if weed were taxed more would there be less weed?

You can legally grow it in your back yard so probably not.

 

[Ron in Regina]

More of the latter. Just watch Scheer try to answer the questions about gay marraige and abortion. He failed and then lost. As far as media being propped up I’m not in favour of it at all.

Yes, indeed. The bought and paid for media being the impartial professionals that they are, I concur with your assessment to some extent. Scheer would get asked the questions that couldn't be answered in soundbites, and Trudeau would rarely be asked anything not approved in advance that could be answered in a scripted soundbite....The best damn media you could buy still occasionally slipped up and asked the odd question off script though:

 

[Twin_Moose]

You can legally grow it in your back yard so probably not.

I can legally distill alcohol I just can't sell it

I can legally grow Tobacco and smoke it But I can't sell it

 

[Hoid]

Yes, indeed. The bought and paid for media being the impartial professionals that they are, I concur with your assessment to some extent. Scheer would get asked the questions that couldn't be answered in soundbites, and Trudeau would rarely be asked anything not approved in advance that could be answered in a scripted soundbite....The best damn media you could buy still occasionally slipped up and asked the odd question off script though:

Trudeau holds numerous public meetings where audience members ask him questions directly.

No conservative has ever done that.

Do you remember Harper doing that?

 

[Ron in Regina]

Trudeau holds numerous public meetings where audience members ask him questions directly.

No conservative has ever done that.

Do you remember Harper doing that?

Do you honestly think those 'town hall' meetings aren't scripted in advance with most of the questions submitted and approved in advance? The odd one sneaks through or buts in and the RCMP deal with them pretty quickly like that woman in Quebec that asked Trudeau about Roxham Road.


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[Avro52]

I can legally distill alcohol I just can't sell it
I can legally grow Tobacco and smoke it But I can't sell it

You could avoid tax though which I believe is the point. I'm sure there is a number that slows consumption down without reverting to building your own still. Price elasticity of demand is a common term in economics, I'm sure your "friend" is well versed in it.

When fuel costs exploded to 130 - 150 a litre why were people getting rid of gas guzzlers and buying more efficient vehicles?

 

[Avro52]

Do you honestly think those 'town hall' meetings aren't scripted in advance with most of the questions submitted and approved in advance? The odd one sneaks through or buts in and the RCMP deal with them pretty quickly like that woman in Quebec that asked Trudeau about Roxham Road.

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The same “ liberal media” that broke the SNC Lavolin scandal and the multiple black face incidents? I didn’t see Rebel media breaking those stories.

 

[Ron in Regina]

I thought the Blackface story was broke by US Media, and though picked up in Canada it quickly faded away....like the SNC Lavolin fiasco & the groping & the elbow to the tit & Admiral Norman & ......faded away like change in a Crackhead's pocket.....Trudeau's socks got more airtime than most of the above.

 

[Avro52]

I thought the Blackface story was broke by US Media, and though picked up in Canada it quickly faded away....like the SNC Lavolin fiasco & the groping & the elbow to the tit & Admiral Norman & ......faded away like change in a Crackhead's pocket.....Trudeau's socks got more airtime than most of the above.

The first one was but the others came from Canadian media. All the others broken by Canadian media. Stories fade, Trump was impeached two months ago....anybody talking about it other than Trump?:smile:

 

[Twin_Moose]

The first one was but the others came from Canadian media. All the others broken by Canadian media. Stories fade, Trump was impeached two months ago....anybody talking about it other than Trump?:smile:

Impeachment appears in almost every attack Trump article, how about Trudeau's?

 

[Twin_Moose]

You could avoid tax though which I believe is the point. I'm sure there is a number that slows consumption down without reverting to building your own still. Price elasticity of demand is a common term in economics, I'm sure your "friend" is well versed in it.
When fuel costs exploded to 130 - 150 a litre why were people getting rid of gas guzzlers and buying more efficient vehicles?

So would increasing Gov. pricing in marijuana reduce it's use? If I could get my hands on an abundant raw Oil supply I would be distilling it for use too.

 

[spilledthebeer]

More of the latter. Just watch Scheer try to answer the questions about gay marraige and abortion. He failed and then lost. As far as media being propped up I’m not in favour of it at all.

Oh dear - Avro has gone back to playing his ODDITY CHANNEL!


Why is it that NO CDN NEWS MEDIA bothered to question OUR idiot Boy Justin - THE STAUNCH CATHOLIC


about HIS views on gay rights and abortion - versus the CHURCH interpretation?


Why is it that no Cdn news media BOTHERED to expose the idiot Boy as a morally BENT HYPOCRITE?

 

[spilledthebeer]

Ah yes.

If cigarettes were taxed less people would smoke more. Booze taxed less drink more. Fuel taxed less use more. Congestion is due to population, lack of good public transportation, cities that were never designed to hold a population so dense like mile high condos side by side and urban sprawl.

As I have pointed out in the past - THE REASON we do not have more modern, more reliable and more extensive public transit


is because HYPOCRITE LIE-berals CHOOSE NOT to spend their gravy on such things as costly transit DOES NOT BUY THEM


nearly as many votes as sucking up to civil service union HOGS, various anti white pressure groups, and assorted illegals can do!


Greed is GOOD FOR LIE-berals - it BUYS them supporters!

 

[pgs]

Oh dear - Avro has gone back to playing his ODDITY CHANNEL!


Why is it that NO CDN NEWS MEDIA bothered to question OUR idiot Boy Justin - THE STAUNCH CATHOLIC


about HIS views on gay rights and abortion - versus the CHURCH interpretation?


Why is it that no Cdn news media BOTHERED to expose the idiot Boy as a morally BENT HYPOCRITE?

Justine marches in parades , you know ? And he has pretty socks , have you not noticed ?

 

[taxslave]

Trudeau holds numerous public meetings where audience members ask him questions directly.
No conservative has ever done that.
Do you remember Harper doing that?

And some reporters were not permitted to enter those meetings. Mostly party faithful and paid for media get invited.

 

[Hoid]

And some reporters were not permitted to enter those meetings. Mostly party faithful and paid for media get invited.

who would be better positioned to understand what actually happens at each and every one of Trudeau's appearances than a right wing nut job on the internet who has never been to one.

 

[spilledthebeer]

Trudeau holds numerous public meetings where audience members ask him questions directly.

No conservative has ever done that.

Do you remember Harper doing that?

THERE WAS NO NEED for Harper to hold such public meetings!


Harper had NO POLICIES needing further clarification nor any any need for weasel worded defense from previously obfuscated and deceitful LIE-beral style positions!



Telling the truth means NEVER HAVING TO FACE ANGRY CITIZENS in town hall meetings as Our idiot Boy did!


One fine day Our idiot Boy is going to have to ANSWER for Lavalin and Admiral Norman and for the native blockade crap and for the $100 billion dollars in waste and extravagance LIE-berals ran up between 2015 and late 2019!


The Cdn parliament will NOT remain closed forever - an when it re-opens - then the LIE-beral minority will face its fate!


And thanks to Wuhan Pestilence - LIE-berals DO NOT have any gravy left to BRIBE civil service union HOGS and other special



interest groups! That is a blueprint for LIE-beral DISASTER! Especially sicne it is the provinces that have been doing all the heavy



lifting on Wuhan VIrus

 

[petros]

You could avoid tax though which I believe is the point. I'm sure there is a number that slows consumption down without reverting to building your own still. Price elasticity of demand is a common term in economics, I'm sure your "friend" is well versed in it.
When fuel costs exploded to 130 - 150 a litre why were people getting rid of gas guzzlers and buying more efficient vehicles?

Stills are $150 for a 2 gallon and up. Cheap like borscht.