To IMPEACH ????

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Here's a thought: maybe the House Reps should have called 17 witnesses.


Here's a better thought...………..Maybe this whole f**king charade should be "put on ice", save the tax payers a $few million and let the established process (Nov. 3) take care of it.
 

Twin_Moose

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Here's a thought: maybe the House Reps should have called 17 witnesses.
... oh ffs...
You know why, I'm done repeating the reason over and over just so you can ignore it.

They tried to call 8 all together and Schiffty Schiff and Nadler vetoed them all including the whistle blower

https://newsthud.com/schiff-rejects-republicans-witness-list-warns-against-sham-investigations/

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/tr...testimony-n1097486/ncrd1098241#liveBlogHeader

https://www.vox.com/2019/11/9/20956...nquiry-witness-hunter-biden-whistleblower-dnc
 

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He did with the Mueller inquiry, when that fell flat the Dems. came after him about Ukraine, this time he decided to use his rights and make the Dems work for it.


He did? Oh okay if you count the answers he (his lawyers) provided in written form only. Pretty easy to have someone else answer only some of the questions rather than answer them face to face for yourself. And pretty easy to answer every question with I don't remember, denying the questioner the opportunity to challenge that answer.

https://apnews.com/98f22511be924ced895ce5c0bfedfe37

https://apnews.com/51e0159165044ea7bdec860c0baae089
 

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... oh ffs...
You know why, I'm done repeating the reason over and over just so you can ignore it.

FFS Trump wasn't allowed to defend himself in the Inquiry deposition in a secure room to cherry pick and leak testimony they want to use, they haven't released the transcripts from all the witness testimony yet why is that? Against the narrative?

Trump's Procedural Rights Curbed During Impeachment Inquiry, Legal Scholar Says

https://www.law.com/newyorklawjourn...y-legal-scholar-says/?slreturn=20200029124312
 

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I think he may be talking bout the republicans trying to get the whistleblower as a witness. And they also wanted Schiff. As a witness. On an investigation he was heading.


This was around the same time they all got together and stormed into a meeting that many of them had to leave in order to storm back into.
 

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He did? Oh okay if you count the answers he (his lawyers) provided in written form only. Pretty easy to have someone else answer only some of the questions rather than answer them face to face for yourself. And pretty easy to answer every question with I don't remember, denying the questioner the opportunity to challenge that answer.
https://apnews.com/98f22511be924ced895ce5c0bfedfe37
https://apnews.com/51e0159165044ea7bdec860c0baae089

So nothing on the release of all the documents requested or the availability to administration staff, just cling to the straw that Trump obstructed because he wouldn't answer questions in person like a Flynn setup right.
 

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So nothing on the release of all the documents requested or the availability to administration staff, just cling to the straw that Trump obstructed because he wouldn't answer questions in person like a Flynn setup right.
To be fair he also prevented many of his staff from testifying.

Every one of them that was asked to testify I believe.
 

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Oh that's right - that's the one where his lawyers said he couldn't testify because he would perjure himself.

I am getting all these Trump shitshows mixed up.
 

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Trump rages at John Bolton, says former adviser would have caused 'World War Six'

President Donald Trump lashed out at his former national security adviser John Bolton on Wednesday after Bolton reportedly contradicted a key element of the president's impeachment defense in an upcoming book.

Trump suggested that if Bolton, a conservative hawk, were still in the White House, the U.S. "would be in World War Six by now."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/tr...ve-caused-world-n1125351?cid=eml_nbn_20200129


The lunatic is at it again. He should be impeached for abusing his freedom to speak. (setting a horrible example) and put into " time out " for about six months.
 

Ocean Breeze

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Oh that's right - that's the one where his lawyers said he couldn't testify because he would perjure himself.

I am getting all these Trump shitshows mixed up.
His lawyers are even more confused and confusing..........If that group is supposed to be the best of the best...........then the legal profession is in serious trouble. what an unimpresive performance.
 

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FFS Trump wasn't allowed to defend himself in the Inquiry deposition in a secure room to cherry pick and leak testimony they want to use, they haven't released the transcripts from all the witness testimony yet why is that? Against the narrative?
Trump's Procedural Rights Curbed During Impeachment Inquiry, Legal Scholar Says
https://www.law.com/newyorklawjourn...y-legal-scholar-says/?slreturn=20200029124312
Heh-heh. Moosie really should read the articles he posts. The article says that Trump's alleged procedural rights are properly curbed because this isn't a criminal trial.

But it's probably unfair of me to expect a MAGAhat to read an entire article.
 
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Trump rages at John Bolton, says former adviser would have caused 'World War Six'
President Donald Trump lashed out at his former national security adviser John Bolton on Wednesday after Bolton reportedly contradicted a key element of the president's impeachment defense in an upcoming book.
Trump suggested that if Bolton, a conservative hawk, were still in the White House, the U.S. "would be in World War Six by now."
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/tr...ve-caused-world-n1125351?cid=eml_nbn_20200129
The lunatic is at it again. He should be impeached for abusing his freedom to speak. (setting a horrible example) and put into " time out " for about six months.
More fake news. NBC is not known for veracity.
 

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What DO the Republicans lose???

Jim Wright

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The question is: Why AREN'T Republicans willing to do their duty?
Why cover for Trump?
Trump is guilty, he's as much as admitted it. Bragged about it even.
There's more than enough cause to hold a rigorous trial. To examine all the evidence, hear all the witnesses. As I've previously noted, if this was 1974, Republicans would have already gone to Trump and demanded his resignation.
Just like with Nixon, Republicans COULD do their duty, and throw him out of office.
What do they lose?
What do Republicans lose if they stand up, declare they are putting America first, that the integrity of the office matters, that the president -- government -- must be always held to a higher standard?
What do they lose?
What do Republicans lose if they show themselves acting with courage, integrity, and a sense of duty?
What do they lose if they take charge of impeachment and lead from the front?
What do they lose if they demand the truth? Evidence? Witnesses?
What do they lose?
What do Republicans lose if they stand up and show America, the world, that they are willing to do the right thing? Put country over party, duty over politics, truth over lies? Do they lose their jobs, or do they earn reelection out of respect?
What do they lose?
What do Republicans lose if they remove Trump from office for cause?
They don't lose the OFFICE. Instead they'd get President Pence, a hardcore Ultra-Christian conservative with a proven track record of right wing fanaticism.
So, what do they lose?
What do Republicans lose? If they remove Trump, they don't lose the White House. They don't lose the Senate. They don't lose the Supreme Court. They don't lose ANY of the conservative agenda they've passed so far. In fact, they might even be able to force Democrats into passing more of the Republican agenda in exchange for Trump's removal.
So, what DO they lose?
What do Republicans lose? They don't lose face. They don't lose to Democrats. In fact, it's just the opposite, they'd seize the moral high ground, yank the rug right out from under liberals, and take control of the situation. They'd be the leaders. They kneecap Nancy Pelosi in one fell swoop.
So, what do they lose?
What do Republicans lose? It's not like if Republicans force Trump to resign they are suddenly going to have to get gay married to vegetarian Muslims, have an abortion, or stop shooting down black men in the street.
What do Republicans lose?
If they remove Trump, rich people STILL won't have to pay taxes, we won't melt down all the aircraft carriers into universal healthcare, and Barack Obama still won't take their guns.
So, what DO they lose?
Because it must be SOMETHING.
What DO Republicans lose if they own impeachment and remove Trump from office?
They lose Trump.
Trump. They lose TRUMP. They lose an amoral bombastic fool, a patsy, that can be easily manipulated into implementing the very worst of their agenda WITHOUT getting their own hands dirty. Most of all, they lose an excuse for their hate, their selfishness, their racism, their misogyny, their homophobia, their horrible religion, their wars, their greed, their fear, ALL of it, without embarrassment or guilt.
And they lose a chump to blame for it all when the bill comes due.
They lose Trump.
THAT'S what they lose.