Any rational thoughts about taxes? ......
- Thread starter VIBC
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Deserves it? Dunno; for several years I was one of those gov. employees that bother you so much. Do you know any of them? I ask because you know, they're all just regular people - a mixed bag, all part of a typically big, inefficient, largely un-manageable business. Some trying to do a worthwhile job, some trying to do as little as possible; all caught up in the same get-a-job 'rat race' as the rest of us. None wanting to be called any kind of crap, thanks
.Whether & why bureaucrats' working conditions are too high is a valid question but no more so than why - for instance - some union jobs are so high paid or cozy. (I said some.) Generally any individual worker hasn't had much say in the matter. I don't think we should scorn them for accepting what's on offer.
I/we didn't have help from our (volunteer) firefighters in our recent emergency but we've been very grateful for their help in the past. I know a couple of them personally; fine fellows. On the other hand we once had to vacate our campsite because of their drunken uncaring rowdiness next door. I admire what they do (and you do) as firefighters/responders but individually I guess they're a mixed bag like all of us.
It's good to know you're not so blindly opposed to all taxation as I've thought you sounded in previous posts. Some people are that rabid about taxes but of course we need them.
ETA: The government job I had was the most frustrating, least satisfying ever. But it paid the bills.
I spent a lot of years as a contractor, logging and building logging roads. Had to deal with a lot of bureaucrats from all levelsDeserves it? Dunno; for several years I was one of those gov. employees that bother you so much. Do you know any of them? I ask because you know, they're all just regular people - a mixed bag, all part of a typically big, inefficient, largely un-manageable business. Some trying to do a worthwhile job, some trying to do as little as possible; all caught up in the same get-a-job 'rat race' as the rest of us. None wanting to be called any kind of crap, thanks
Whether & why bureaucrats' working conditions are too high is a valid question but no more so than why - for instance - some union jobs are so high paid or cozy. (I said some.) Generally any individual worker hasn't had much say in the matter. I don't think we should scorn them for accepting what's on offer.
I/we didn't have help from our (volunteer) firefighters in our recent emergency but we've been very grateful for their help in the past. I know a couple of them personally; fine fellows. On the other hand we once had to vacate our campsite because of their drunken uncaring rowdiness next door. I admire what they do (and you do) as firefighters/responders but individually I guess they're a mixed bag like all of us.
It's good to know you're not so blindly opposed to all taxation as I've thought you sounded in previous posts. Some people are that rabid about taxes but of course we need them.
ETA: The government job I had was the most frustrating, least satisfying ever. But it paid the bills.
of government. Largely a very frustrating experience. The biggest problem is timelines don't matter to them and they simply don't care if you are down because you are waiting for a permit . They get paid every two weeks regardless. Then there is the colossal waste of money on every government project I have ever worked on. No accountability. I also worked as a civilian mechanic for DND for about 11/2 years. They would go out of their way to make things difficult and expensive. Worse they would just plain fight you whenever a suggestion of a better way was presented.
I recognize the need for a social safety net but there is no reason for the amount of employees required to operate it. A politician once told me 60% of all program spending is eaten up in administration. So if there is 1 billion dollars for a program 600 million goes to seeing that the other $400 million get to where're the 1 billion was intended
Sorry to hear of your frustrations; a couple of points though.
When you talk about government workers you're talking about me, although you know nothing about me. And you're stereotyping thousands of other individual persons you also know nothing about. Not very fair or rational? From my own point of view I can say I've suffered from the same kind of frustrations within government as you and other 'clients' have, outside of it; frustration over delays, underfunding, bureaucratic rules, illogical decisions etc, etc. And I've had similar experiences working in 'The Private Sector' for big international companies with supposedly solid reputations. When you're part of the machine you can only work within it, however bizarre its workings, or incompetent its owners/managers.
It's kind of illogical to complain that employees get paid so long as they're in a job: Gov. employees are roughly as accountable as anyone for how they perform; it's just that the rules & management culture are peculiar to government. It's not a job for life. If you rock the boat you'll be harassed till you leave. The way people are treated once they don't fit is vicious. Most learn not to rock the boat.
Have you ever pondered how much cost & delay might be added to government projects by the public's complaints & (understandable) demand for accountability - by all of us helping to create a cover-your-ass culture? How much of our yelling for blood is counter-productive? It's a serious question.
I'm sure there's lots of money spent in administration of absolutely every enterprise- public or private. In any given case it might be hard to decide how much is necessary or reasonable, how much is 'wasted' and how much unavoidable. When there's no bottom-line profit to measure by, it's all the more foggy and I wouldn't want to generalise, but I'm maybe a wee bit surprized that you put your faith in what a politician once told you
.Just remember, all generalisations are false.
(And have a good day!)
If you work for government he does speak of you and all your brothers and sisters . You are all fat lazy overpaid underperforming drags on the people who pay your salary .Sorry to hear of your frustrations; a couple of points though.
When you talk about government workers you're talking about me, although you know nothing about me. And you're stereotyping thousands of other individual persons you also know nothing about. Not very fair or rational? From my own point of view I can say I've suffered from the same kind of frustrations within government as you and other 'clients' have, outside of it; frustration over delays, underfunding, bureaucratic rules, illogical decisions etc, etc. And I've had similar experiences working in 'The Private Sector' for big international companies with supposedly solid reputations. When you're part of the machine you can only work within it, however bizarre its workings, or incompetent its owners/managers.
It's kind of illogical to complain that employees get paid so long as they're in a job: Gov. employees are roughly as accountable as anyone for how they perform; it's just that the rules & management culture are peculiar to government. It's not a job for life. If you rock the boat you'll be harassed till you leave. The way people are treated once they don't fit is vicious. Most learn not to rock the boat.
Have you ever pondered how much cost & delay might be added to government projects by the public's complaints & (understandable) demand for accountability - by all of us helping to create a cover-your-ass culture? How much of our yelling for blood is counter-productive? It's a serious question.
I'm sure there's lots of money spent in administration of absolutely every enterprise- public or private. In any given case it might be hard to decide how much is necessary or reasonable, how much is 'wasted' and how much unavoidable. When there's no bottom-line profit to measure by, it's all the more foggy and I wouldn't want to generalise, but I'm maybe a wee bit surprized that you put your faith in what a politician once told you
Just remember, all generalisations are false.
(And have a good day!)
And no we are not your clients .
If you fat overpaid slugs did the job in the first place there would be no complaints .Sorry to hear of your frustrations; a couple of points though.
When you talk about government workers you're talking about me, although you know nothing about me. And you're stereotyping thousands of other individual persons you also know nothing about. Not very fair or rational? From my own point of view I can say I've suffered from the same kind of frustrations within government as you and other 'clients' have, outside of it; frustration over delays, underfunding, bureaucratic rules, illogical decisions etc, etc. And I've had similar experiences working in 'The Private Sector' for big international companies with supposedly solid reputations. When you're part of the machine you can only work within it, however bizarre its workings, or incompetent its owners/managers.
It's kind of illogical to complain that employees get paid so long as they're in a job: Gov. employees are roughly as accountable as anyone for how they perform; it's just that the rules & management culture are peculiar to government. It's not a job for life. If you rock the boat you'll be harassed till you leave. The way people are treated once they don't fit is vicious. Most learn not to rock the boat.
Have you ever pondered how much cost & delay might be added to government projects by the public's complaints & (understandable) demand for accountability - by all of us helping to create a cover-your-ass culture? How much of our yelling for blood is counter-productive? It's a serious question.
I'm sure there's lots of money spent in administration of absolutely every enterprise- public or private. In any given case it might be hard to decide how much is necessary or reasonable, how much is 'wasted' and how much unavoidable. When there's no bottom-line profit to measure by, it's all the more foggy and I wouldn't want to generalise, but I'm maybe a wee bit surprized that you put your faith in what a politician once told you
Just remember, all generalisations are false.
(And have a good day!)
Your first false assumption is that we are your clients. We are your employer. You are supposed to work for us, not against us.Sorry to hear of your frustrations; a couple of points though.
When you talk about government workers you're talking about me, although you know nothing about me. And you're stereotyping thousands of other individual persons you also know nothing about. Not very fair or rational? From my own point of view I can say I've suffered from the same kind of frustrations within government as you and other 'clients' have, outside of it; frustration over delays, underfunding, bureaucratic rules, illogical decisions etc, etc. And I've had similar experiences working in 'The Private Sector' for big international companies with supposedly solid reputations. When you're part of the machine you can only work within it, however bizarre its workings, or incompetent its owners/managers.
It's kind of illogical to complain that employees get paid so long as they're in a job: Gov. employees are roughly as accountable as anyone for how they perform; it's just that the rules & management culture are peculiar to government. It's not a job for life. If you rock the boat you'll be harassed till you leave. The way people are treated once they don't fit is vicious. Most learn not to rock the boat.
Have you ever pondered how much cost & delay might be added to government projects by the public's complaints & (understandable) demand for accountability - by all of us helping to create a cover-your-ass culture? How much of our yelling for blood is counter-productive? It's a serious question.
I'm sure there's lots of money spent in administration of absolutely every enterprise- public or private. In any given case it might be hard to decide how much is necessary or reasonable, how much is 'wasted' and how much unavoidable. When there's no bottom-line profit to measure by, it's all the more foggy and I wouldn't want to generalise, but I'm maybe a wee bit surprized that you put your faith in what a politician once told you
Just remember, all generalisations are false.
(And have a good day!)
I have to say VIBC that I worked "briefly" for a government department - fortunately it was only a temp job but there was the possibility of being hired on, eventually. I lasted exactly 3 weeks when I contacted the Personnel Agency to "get me the hell out of there"!. It was the most boring, incredibly useless job I ever had and I've had quite a few over the years. The Agency couldn't figure out why I would want to leave a potential full-time job offer and I said that I would "cut-my throat" before I'd work there permanently, full-time. So I know what you mean totally. Realized that they had to pay well in order to keep someone from jumping off the roof! LOL Guess some people can do it but I certainly wasn't one of them.
Now I have to deal with the government on a regular basis and it's not one of my favorite things to do. To call and get answers means having to wait, on hold, for anywhere from 45 - 60 minutes to speak to someone and then have to wait additionally because the person who initially answers the call can't help me. Very frustrating!!
Sorry to hear of your frustrations; a couple of points though.
When you talk about government workers you're talking about me, although you know nothing about me. And you're stereotyping thousands of other individual persons you also know nothing about. Not very fair or rational? From my own point of view I can say I've suffered from the same kind of frustrations within government as you and other 'clients' have, outside of it; frustration over delays, underfunding, bureaucratic rules, illogical decisions etc, etc. And I've had similar experiences working in 'The Private Sector' for big international companies with supposedly solid reputations. When you're part of the machine you can only work within it, however bizarre its workings, or incompetent its owners/managers.
It's kind of illogical to complain that employees get paid so long as they're in a job: Gov. employees are roughly as accountable as anyone for how they perform; it's just that the rules & management culture are peculiar to government. It's not a job for life. If you rock the boat you'll be harassed till you leave. The way people are treated once they don't fit is vicious. Most learn not to rock the boat.
Have you ever pondered how much cost & delay might be added to government projects by the public's complaints & (understandable) demand for accountability - by all of us helping to create a cover-your-ass culture? How much of our yelling for blood is counter-productive? It's a serious question.
I'm sure there's lots of money spent in administration of absolutely every enterprise- public or private. In any given case it might be hard to decide how much is necessary or reasonable, how much is 'wasted' and how much unavoidable. When there's no bottom-line profit to measure by, it's all the more foggy and I wouldn't want to generalise, but I'm maybe a wee bit surprized that you put your faith in what a politician once told you
Just remember, all generalisations are false.
(And have a good day!)
VIBC MAKES A SERIES OF GENERALIZED STATEMENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And then tells us "ALL generalizations are false"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TYPICAL HOG LOGIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry to hear of your frustrations; a couple of points though.
When you talk about government workers you're talking about me, although you know nothing about me. And you're stereotyping thousands of other individual persons you also know nothing about. Not very fair or rational? From my own point of view I can say I've suffered from the same kind of frustrations within government as you and other 'clients' have, outside of it; frustration over delays, underfunding, bureaucratic rules, illogical decisions etc, etc. And I've had similar experiences working in 'The Private Sector' for big international companies with supposedly solid reputations. When you're part of the machine you can only work within it, however bizarre its workings, or incompetent its owners/managers.
It's kind of illogical to complain that employees get paid so long as they're in a job: Gov. employees are roughly as accountable as anyone for how they perform; it's just that the rules & management culture are peculiar to government. It's not a job for life. If you rock the boat you'll be harassed till you leave. The way people are treated once they don't fit is vicious. Most learn not to rock the boat.
Have you ever pondered how much cost & delay might be added to government projects by the public's complaints & (understandable) demand for accountability - by all of us helping to create a cover-your-ass culture? How much of our yelling for blood is counter-productive? It's a serious question.
I'm sure there's lots of money spent in administration of absolutely every enterprise- public or private. In any given case it might be hard to decide how much is necessary or reasonable, how much is 'wasted' and how much unavoidable. When there's no bottom-line profit to measure by, it's all the more foggy and I wouldn't want to generalise, but I'm maybe a wee bit surprized that you put your faith in what a politician once told you
Just remember, all generalisations are false.
(And have a good day!)
GOSH VIBC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MAYBE YOU SHOULD BE ASKING::::
"HOW MANY OF THOSE DELAYS ARE THE RESULT OF LIE-beral NEED........................
to CALCULATE DOWN TO SEVERAL DECIMAL POINTS - JUST HOW MANY VOTES..............................
THEY MIGHT EITHER WIN OR LOSE in any situation"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LIE-berals spend ALL DAY EVERY DAY calculating what they can get away with!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For their own selfish ENTITLEMENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CONSIDER:::::::
Here is an article warning us that federal LIE-berals are on exactly the same deceitful track as Wynne-bag Ontari-owe LIE-berals!! With some comments of my own in brackets):
Budget watchdog cautions Morneau against potentially 'cynical' accounting changes as Liberals post $26B deficit
'You would be changing the definition of a deficit when it suits you, which is not good for public confidence in government numbers'
(This statement translates into a warning that LIE-berals are trying to HIDE just how much gravy they are really feeding to our civil service union HOGS!! LIE-berals have promised as much as a TRILLION DOLLARS to HOGS in exchange for their votes - and now the gravy has to be beaten out of our hides - to save LIE-beral political careers from oblivion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
By Jesse Snyder, National Post December 20, 2019
OTTAWA — Canada’s budget watchdog is cautioning Bill Morneau against potentially “cynical” accounting changes as the finance minister seeks to alter how federal deficits are calculated.
The proposed changes come after the Liberals this week announced an unexpectedly high deficit of $26.6 billion.
(LIE-berals have a MASSIVE PROBLEM with civil service union HOG pension payments!! Wynne-bag Ontari-owe LIE-berals made promises to OSSTF - our high school teachers to make payments later into the OSSTF pension fund in exchange for votes now- and those deferred payment promises plus interest have piled up to about $55 BILLION DOLLARS as of June 2018!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
(Ontari-owe DOES NOT HAVE the gravy to pay off OSSTF as LIE-berals had promised!! Especially since there are EIGHTEEN MORE HOG unions - each holding MORE BILLIONS worth of WORTHLESS LIE-beral IOU`s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
(By relentlessly price gouging us on electricity - Wynne-bag scrapeed together $10 billion dollars to offer to HOGS in 2018 and of course that is LESS THAN TWENTY PERCENT of what was promised!! And to make their budget MESS LOOK BETTER - LIE-berals counted that $10 billion as a budget ASSET and thus “reduced” their yearly deficit by $10 billion dollars - WITHOUT ACKNOWLEDGING their other promise of over $45 BILLION in OSSTF DEBT!)
(Wynne-bag LIE-berals also chose NOT TO COUNT AS DEBT - the other MASSIVE UNPAID LIE-beral IOU`s to the 18 other HOG unions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
(Even worse - for the entire country are the other HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS - perhaps even OVER ONE TRILLION DOLLARS in LIE-beral IOU`s issued to ALL the HOG unions from our FOUR levels of govt - federal, provincial, municipal and the Crown Corps such as Metrolinx, E-health, the hospitals, colleges and universities!! The TRUE SCALE and economy breaking scope of LIE-beral IOU`s is STAGGERING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
(LIE-berals and their tame media whores have been working to HIDE this debt HORROR for many years!! IN 2012, Cdn news media STOPPED TALKING about the over $300 billion dollars in IOU`s that LIE-berals had issued ONLY to federal HOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
(And the only reason we know about the OSSTF PIGGERY is because the outgoing chairman of the OSSTF Pension Management Board was rash enough to appear on TVO/The Agenda to be interviewed by Steve Paikin about the OSSTF HOG PENSION DEBT CRISIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
(IN 2012 - it was reported that 97 percent of all defined benefit pension plans were in SERIOUS DEFICIT STATUS - meaning they required MASSIVE NEW govt payments to remain solvent!! Hence the LIE-beral fixation on the hated carbon tax SCAM as a means of GRABBING GRAVY to placate the HOGS who LIE-berals RELY ON to get elected!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
The federal deficit is currently measured using various “bottom-line” numbers. Morneau has proposed introducing a second method that tallies “operational” spending that would exclude things like federal pensions, which this week helped push the deficit higher.
(Ah yes - “operational spending” is LIE-berals speak meaning WE ARE ALL SCREWED!! It is an open admission by Morneau that HOGS WILL NOT be getting full payment on those LIE-beral IOU`s!! AND IT IS AN ADMISSION that LIE-berals will PRICE GOUGE ordinary people as much as they dare- to grab as much gravy as they can from us- regardless of our needs or social justice -and that LIE-berals will LIE about their accounting practices as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
(Morneau has basically DECLARED WAR on ordinary tax payers and ensured that HOGS and LIE-berals will continue in their GROSS CONFLICT OF INTEREST in which HOGS sell their votes to LIE-berals in exchange for GRAVY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
In an interview Thursday, Parliamentary Budget Officer Yves Giroux said he was “concerned” about the proposed changes. He said the adjustment could improve fiscal transparency, but worried Finance officials might later roll back those same changes as a way to manufacture rosier deficit projections.
(Wynne-bag LIE-berals did exactly that so why not Morneau?????????????)
“It could be seen as a bit cynical by the public,” he said. “You would be changing the definition of a deficit when it suits you, which is not good for public confidence in government numbers.”
(“A bit cynical” is wonderfully delicate way to describe DELIBERATELY FALSE ACCOUNTING - of the sort that made the Wynne-bag 2018 SIXTEEN BILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT into a “balanced budget”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
John Ivison: Morneau's deficits are ballooning before the Liberal spending promises even hit
Liberal deficit soars to $27B demolishing projections, with another $35B in surprise red ink on the way
The changes are being considered just days after Morneau posted a deficit that was $7 billion higher than earlier estimates, partly due to a $4.9-billion penalty tied to its pension liabilities. When interest rates decline, the amount owing on public pensions effectively rises, in turn increasing the amount of money Ottawa needs to set aside every year to cover personnel expenses.
(Ah yes -and we should ask if that $4.9 billion penalty tied to its pension liabilities” is just the LATEST in a very long series of LIE-beral IOU payments to HOGS - thank to the LIE-beral IOU`s that should NEVER have been issued!! We COULD NOT PAY when the promises were made and we cannot pay now!!!!!!!!!!!)
Morneau did not suggest similar accounting changes in 2017 or parts of 2018, when interest rates were going in the opposite direction and gave the Trudeau government billions in free fiscal room. Pierre-Olivier Herbert, a spokesman for Morneau, did not respond directly to questions about why Ottawa is floating the changes now, rather than in years past.
(In 2017 and 2018 LIE-berals still had hope of winning the 2019 election - now that they are a minority govt -the LIE-beral purchase of HOG votes is ESSENTIAL - at any price and damn the long term consequences nd deliberate evasions of standard accounting practice !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
The Liberal government under Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has been facing criticism that its ballooning deficits could put Canada in a troubling fiscal position should the economy enter a downturn in coming years.
(Those out of control deficits will soon result in Canada doing a very painful face plant into the DEBT WALL - that will hurt us just like with the Greeks and the French Yellow Vest protestors !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Those worries were underscored this week when Ottawa posted a higher national debt-to-GDP ratio, which the Trudeau Liberals have long cited as a key fiscal anchor that they would be able to continually reduce even as they run multi-year deficits nearing $30 billion.
It could be seen as a bit cynical by the public.
(HOGS are delighted by that LIE-beral borrowing but those of us WHO HAVE TO PAY are NOT so happy!! Hence the LIE-beral determination to keep importing illegals in order to BUY their votes at any price - with the LIE-berals assuming penniless illegals will be cheaper to buy than HOGS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Giroux on Thursday also expressed concern over Ottawa’s deficits, saying that the slight increase in its debt-to-GDP ratio from 30.8 per cent to 31 per cent was “worrying” and “the reversal of a trend.”
(That “slight increase in debt-to GDP” is also the SMALL TIP of a VERY LARGE HOG pension iceberg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
The deficit in fiscal year 2019-20 is now expected to reach $26.6 billion, compared to a deficit between $5 billion and $10 billion projected in 2016.
“Every year they seem to be pushing back the return to lower deficits,” he said.
Morneau’s spokesperson said Canada enjoys “the best balance sheet in the G7, with a low and declining net-debt-GDP ratio,” despite the modest increase in its debt ratio.
(Being slightly less bankrupt than others is NOT a great virtue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Herbert said Ottawa has officially launched consultations to possibly introduce the accounting change, similar to changes made in Australia and New Zealand.
“Canada’s accounting standards are already very high, and we are always looking for more ways to be more transparent with Canadians and align ourselves with the best international accounting practices,” he said.
Canada has one of the lowest debt-to-GDP ratios among developed nations, when excluding provincial debts.
(OH? And where would we be IF WE COUNTED those provincial debts?? And the municipal and Crown Corp Crap that LIE-berals are HIDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
However, critics often say the Trudeau government has done little to justify its spendthrift budgets, particularly in past years when the Canadian economy was growing sometimes more than three per cent, and therefore did not need widespread stimulus.
Giroux said the Liberals have left themselves little fiscal room in the event of a downturn, especially at a time when the economy is expected to downshift into a period of lower growth, averaging 1.8 per cent over the next five years.
(Being the least broke among a field of bankrupt beggars is NOT A VIRTUE!!!!!!!!)
“It exposes the public finances to even the slightest deviation from the forecast,” he said.
(The list of international financial threats that may impact Canada harshly is long - and GROWING LONGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
The head budget officer also suggested that Trudeau could have a hard time meeting spending requirements that he made as part of Liberal election promises, which include a light version of pharmacare and other social programs. The party also introduced a tax cut for middle-income earners that is expected to cost $3 billion by 2021 in foregone revenue, rising to $6.2 billion in 2025, according to Finance estimates.
(Wynne-bag LIE-berals also meddled with pharmacare in 2018 and got MAULED for their fiscal deceit in that area as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
“When they start to implement their platform, there probably won’t be enough money to do that without risking an increasing debt-to-GDP ratio,” he said.
(Translation from economist talk - LIE-berals will get slammed into the debt wall before they get even a portion of their promises implemented - LIE-beral policy is all based on first finding Leprechaun gold!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Giroux also raised doubts over Ottawa’s ability to find $1.5 billion in savings per year, a claim made by Morneau in the recent fiscal update. Finance officials did not provide details of where the savings would come from, but said they were launching a review to examine the issue
(LIE-berals are SCREWED - and out of options!! They COULD simply cut federal transfers to Quebec by that $1.5 billion dollars from that obscene $11 billion dollars in Quebec bribery and save money that way - but Quebec is the HEARTLAND of LIE-beral support!! Or they could cut federal transfers to Ontari-owe but the vote rich GTA is still loyal to LIE-berals and upsetting them is not in the cards either!!!!!)
If you all the feds always ask for service in French . Those calls get answered faster , after a quick qui , switch to English , they will be upset but have to service your call .
I don't really expect you to agree with me, but I truly appreciate you giving it a fair reading.
On the point of separating the tax from the price, we do that here in a kind of half-assed form. State sales taxes are added on to the price. Given that those sales taxes vary between zero and 14%, I'm not sure they're a real big issue in the minds of voters.
A "C" corporation is the standard big corporation. An "S" corporation is a "close-held" corporation, not publicly traded and with its shares held by a small and identified group of people. In both cases, the reason for the corporate form is to avoid unlimited liability (and, more recently, to pay less tax).
LORD KNOWS I DO LOVE KICKING AT civil service union HOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But in this case I actually have some sympathy for the poor HOG who has to wade through an IMMENSE COLLECTION ...................
of govt regulations and come up with the correct answer in SHORT ORDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For decades now our LIE-beral govt has been making our tax regime ever more convoluted......................
in a GROSSLY SELFISH EFFORT to hid how badly LIE-berals are robbing us..........................
and HOGS are caught in the Byzantine Labyrinth almost as badly as the rest of us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But of course civil service union HOGS DESERVE a swift kick for being so selfish and greedy as to support LIE-berals in the first place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I could be persuaded to parts of it. I'm not totally convinced there is one size fits all answer either. The idea is to come up with possible scenarios and kick them until they are full of holes the see what can be done to pug the holes. Clearly something has to give as many of us are in the 50% tax range when it is all tallied up. That is unacceptable for a wage earner.
In related news- back in spring 2018 - when Doug Ford suggested eliminating the Ontariowe LIE-beral mandated ......................
carbon tax on gasoline - Wynne-bag LIE-berals LAUGHED right out loud - and suggested...................................
Cdn voters WOULD NOT EVEN NOTICE.....................
that 7cent per litre price reduction!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Considering that the Ontari-owe LIE-berals then got mauled in the June 2018 election...............................
and that Wynne-bag herself is EXILED TO THE BACK OF THE CLASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And rarely even allowed to speak.....................................................
IT COULD BE THAT ORDINARY CDNS KEEP A MUCH CLOSER EYE ON THE PENNIES..............................
THAN LIE-berals EVER GUESSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As for TAX SLOB WHINING about his place on the 50% tax rate scale............................
too bad the HOG does not register on how hard it is for ORDINARY PEOPLE..........................
who DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO ANY GOVT GRAVY......................................
to pay THEIR 50 % SHARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The TRUE IRONY of the tax slob position is that he SUPPORTS LIE-beral govt.........................................
with its mantra that "those with the most income should PAY MORE"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And yet in TRUE HOG BEWILDERMENT - tax slob CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHY ..................................
HE MUST PAY SO MUCH TAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OH NOW TAX SLOB......................................
what you are really telling us is THAT YOU APPROVE of those dirty back room deals ................................
that LIE-berals TRULY DELIGHT IN ARRANGING.......................................
for special interest groups - at the expense of the general public!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
THAT IS YOUR REASON for whining that "one size does not fit all"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Because that one size stuff LIMITS LIE-beral DIRTY DEALING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT A TRUE HOG YOU ARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SO far you are winning the retard of the year award race. If you do you will be the first non lefty to win.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FEEL THAT BURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The terminally confused tax slob ADMITS THAT LIE-berals ARE RETARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And then dimwit tries to suggest I am some sort of retard................................
for OPPOSING THE DESTRUCTION OF CANADA..............................
BY RETARDS and civil service union HOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here is an example of the FAILURE of those Native Healing Lodges............................................
AND its also a nice example of the DIRTY BACK ROOM DEALING LIE-beral CRAP that tax slob is trying to defend............................
and that LIE-beral hug a thug judges are so fond of - that DOES NOTHING to alter stupid behaviour!! With some comments of my own in brackets):
St. Mary's drummer says her chief abused his power
By Rachel Cave CBC News
Published January 13, 2020
A member of St. Mary's First Nation says it's been a punishing year since she volunteered to drive her chief home from a Fredericton bar.
Jade Polches says Feb. 22, 2019, wasn't the first time she helped an intoxicated Alan Polchies Jr. get back to his residence.
However, that date is seared into her mind because, she says, that's the night he leaned over from the passenger seat of her car and gripped her vagina.
"I didn't know what to do," she said. "I just screamed and slapped his hand off me."
Polches said it was a creepy, predatory thing to do and made her extremely uncomfortable.
All she ever wanted was an apology, she said, but when that didn't happen, she went to the police and made a complaint.
Polchies was charged with sexual assault and assault, but those charges were withdrawn in October after he completed the alternative measures program.
(Yes- this is an alternate version of the “native healing lodge” JOKE that assumes all natives are victims under any circumstance- and thus ARE NEVER really responsible for their actions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
A participant in this program can avoid the criminal justice system and the possibility of a criminal record by accepting responsibility for what happened and undertaking an accountability plan with a program co-ordinator.
(People who have been excused entirely for their actions would include native break and enter convicts - who “repent” of their crimes by hanging out in a sweat lodge and admiring the view!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
(Another beneficiary - albeit temporarily was child killer Terri-Lyn McClintick - the vile woman who lured 8 year old Tory Stafford into the hands of a murderous pedophile!! McClinick simply had to CLAIM native ancestry - without bothering to provide any proof and she was whisked out of that harsh maximum security prison and taken off to live at a “healing lodge” complete with pleasant cottage residences for the “GUESTS”!! Fortunately the public outcry persuaded LIE-berals to send her back to JAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
(Another native who benefited from the LIE-beral view that natives are always victims - was hauled into court for driving drunk and killing his best friend and a couple of passersby and the LIE-beral hug a thug judge gave him a MUCH REDUCED SENTENCE - because of his sad childhood - while ignoring his other criminal convictions!! Once you get stupid enough - LIE-beral privacy laws start to PROTECT YOU from your own drunken idiocy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Jade Polches said she was never asked what she thought about diverting the matter from the courts.
(The victim is not relevant in LIE-beral eyes!! And in spite of their “feminist” values - LIE-berals see a wandering hands as MINOR -as witness Trudope weasel words regarding the Kokanee Grope - or the reluctance to deal with wheelchair bound amd very grabby horndog Kent Hehr!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
And, she said, after the chief was offered alternative measures, she wasn't given the chance to participate, even though the program is supposed to allow for that.
(No wonder - as the victim clearly wants some sort of punishment to deter the guy from grabbing her or others in future- and LIE-berals do not punish - they forgive and FORGET - to save on legal costs - and buy votes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Polches said she also feels it's unfair the chief used band council resources to distribute a public denial, in the form of a letter sent out to homes.
(The letter that was sent out was a DISGRACEFUL and self serving denial of any wrong doing by the chief - using public tax money!! Clearly the chief HAS NOT BEEN HEALED NOR RECONCILED by the alternative justice GARBAGE!!!!!!)
She believes he also used his influence to try to have her removed from her drumming group, days before the most important political and cultural event of the year.
Polches said the chief's actions have divided the community and last month, she wrote to her band council, asking elected leaders to address her concerns in an open meeting.
Polches said it hurt to see her drum group feeling torn apart over whether she should play at the July 23 opening gala of the Assembly of First Nations, which was meeting in Fredericton.
(Natives are increasingly sensitive about public opinion regarding drunken idiot behaviour by other natives!! Sweeping every issue up and hiding it in some crappy healing lodge is NOT the solution to the native public image problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Polches had been drumming with the Pokuhulakon Witsehkehsu, or Sisters of Drums, for about two years.
The all-Wolastoqiyik ensemble had been looking forward to performing at a traditional welcoming ceremony at the St. John River, also known as Wolastoq.
"I love drumming with the girls," Polches told CBC News. "It's so powerful. You feel so strong. Everyone's connected."
The thrill started to fade on July 20, when, according to her saved Facebook messages, another drummer, Ann Margaret, wrote to Polches, saying they needed to meet.
Polches said she spoke to Ann Margaret outside St. Mary's Smoke Shop and that's when she was told the chief did not want her to play.
Polches said she was told that if she insisted on playing, the Sisters would be cancelled, altogether.
(The initial problem - the chief grabbing the woman`s genitals is relatively mild- but the apparent ongoing desire of the chief for revenge for being humiliated and exposed as a grabby drunk is now taking centre stage as a REAL PROBLEM!! The stupid healing lodge crap leaves too many loose ends!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
She was told to stay away and "take one for the team," she said.
CBC News called Ann Margaret to ask if she could confirm whether she was directly contacted by the chief, but she wouldn't answer questions. She would only say, "We dealt with it at a group meeting."
(Yes- LIE-berals LOVE PRIVACY - as witness the Lavalin secrecy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Messages left for the chief were never returned.
(Yes - its none of our biz how drunken goofs behave or what retaliation they plan in response to rejection and humiliation - First Nations have become Alien Nations - beyond any sensible Cdn laws!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
However, another drummer, who asked not to be identified for fear of reprisal, said she was also told there was pressure coming from the chief.
She said it caused the group to hold an emergency meeting to deal with the "aftermath."
Polches said she went to the meeting and about seven other drummers were there.
She said the crisis was resolved when she promised to the group that she would not make a scene or embarrass the chief.
"Basically, I had to make an agreement on not protesting," she said, even though she never intended to protest.
"As long as I smiled and played the drum, we'd all get to play."
(All this crap over an incident of drunken stupidity!! In the old days - women were trained to STAY AWAY from drunken men!! If she had simply let the chief find his own way home- she would not be in this fix!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Polches said she was also hurt when the chief used his office to try to discredit her.
On July 22, the chief wrote a letter on St. Mary's band council letterhead and had it delivered to the homes in the community.
In that letter, he acknowledged that a member of the community had made allegations against him.
He said they were allegations that he would "normally take to court to prove my innocence due to my belief of the lack of evidence required to obtain a conviction."
(The guy is an IDIOT!! By agreeing to participate in the alternative justice crap - HE HAS ADMITTED he did wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
"However, the offer of post charge diversion was made to me by the Crown prosecutor's office which I have fully accepted."
(And chief accepted that offer apparently for lack of ability to DENY anything?? One wonders if other women might have stepped forward to complain if there had been a white style trial instead of this privacy and healing CRAP???????????????)
Polchies also wrote: "There are times, as the first openly gay Chief in Canada, I have been subject to prejudice, racism and discrimination."
(Oh right - poor pitiful put upon gay drunkard VICTIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
"Despite all of this, I am optimistic about our community's future and still proud to hold the office of chief."
(Yes and no doubt the govt GRAVY that comes with the job is also a LURE!! We should recall the corruption that exists on native reserves - with one band down east with less than 500 people caught paying their chief half a million dollars per year!! And another down east band caught using money earmarked for housing to take Carribean cruises instead - and then bitching about their living conditions at home!!!!!!!!!)
(LIE-berals did all Cdns - including ones living on reserves - THREE GRAVE INJUSTICES - first by implementing this “alternative justice” CRAP and second by dropping the Conservative law mandating that reserves post ALL their expenses online so govt auditors can see what is really being done WITH OUR TAX MONEY - and third by claiming that natives are ALWAYS VICTIMS and thus their stupidity must be excused!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)