It's Climate Change I tell'ya!! IT'S CLIMATE CHANGE!!

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Pyrophoric Plants

Perhaps the most amazing fire adaptation is that some species actually require fire for their seeds to sprout. Some plants, such as the lodgepole pine, Eucalyptus, and Banksia, have serotinous cones or fruits that are completely sealed with resin. These cones/fruits can only open to release their seeds after the heat of a fire has physically melted the resin. Other species, including a number of shrubs and annual plants, require the chemical signals from smoke and charred plant matter to break seed dormancy. Some of these plants will only sprout in the presence of such chemicals and can remain buried in the soil seed bank for decades until a wildfire awakens them. The image shows lodgepole pine seedlings growing next to the charred remains of their parent plants following the 1988 Yellowstone National Park fires
Eucalyptus isn’t that native to Australia ?
 

petros

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Eco-Gruppen Nazis
 

spilledthebeer

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Are there not cities or counties that have outlawed fireplaces? I thought I heard something about that. Nothing like making sure peons freeze to death after ever increasing utility costs that some can't afford and can't burn wood either because it's illegal. I may be wrong about it as maybe it was only being looked at but I'm wondering if this regulation was ever put in place?


Dixie you are not entirely correct on the fireplace issue...............................


for instance in Britain a fireplace IS STILL LEGAL IF.........................


you install on the chimney the sort of air scrubbers that are



used IN NUCLEAR SUBMARINES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Thus a fireplace or wood stove is still legal IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH GRAVY to pay for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Most people DO NOT - thus a fireplace or wood stove is essentially illegal in Britain for most people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The city of Montreal has recently - meaning a couple years back - MANDATED that any wood burning device MUST PASS an air



quality test related to the particulate matter it emits - the newer air tight wood stoves and fireplace inserts BURN CLEANER................


with less particulate matter emitted than older units and Montreal has ordered that NONE of the older units may be sold or installed



there any longer .............................and further they order that any existing unit MUST BE IMMEDIATELY TESTED at owners



expense and if it fails the test then it MUST BE IMMEDIATELY SCRAPPED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Other cities are considering the Montreal style legislation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The big issue is how many people in a district still use wood for heating etc....................................


and how many votes might be lost if draconian legislation is introduced!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

spilledthebeer

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Some places have outright bans others are no new installs and grandfathered woodburning only.

Some to save the environment from itself other for asthma and clean air in general.

A lot of my best memories are tied to the scents of firewood.


I feel like taking a wild guess here....................................


and suggest to you that NO PLACE in north America and no place in Europe.................................


has a total ban on burning wood!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I suggest that you are full of crap on this issue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WHAT HAS BEEN BANNED is simply CERTAIN older style wood stoves and older type fire place inserts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Montreal has NOT BANNED WOOD BURNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The city has simply mandated the use of certain cleabner burning types of air tight stoves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Even in England - which has very aggressive legislation - one CAN burn wood!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It seems you are feeding us PROG bullshit by claiming a total ban on wood burning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Unless you are referring to Communist China??????????????????????????????
 

spilledthebeer

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And that would be wrong like most wild guesses.You lack experience with west coast ecoterrorists.




POOR TAX SLOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He wants to present his arguments WITHOUT ..............


PROVIDING ANY CONTEXT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He wants his views respected without explaining who or what he is really opposing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



He wants to INSIST that he is RIGHT without providing any facts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He wants to LECTURE without offering any logic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Tax Slob seems so entitled that he MUST SURELY BE A civil service union HOG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He states "you lack experience with west coast eco terrorists"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In a shameless display of CLAIMED WISDOM - with NO PROOF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The DOOFUS IS IN THE DETAILS - that you aint providing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

spilledthebeer

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The details are way over your comprehension level.




OH DEAR ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


THAT civil service union HOG EXCUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Has become so threadbare..................................


it does not even comfort the most irrational of HOGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Better go off and sulk in silence till you think................


of some CLEVER NEW RETORT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I expect to wait A LONG TIME for a fresh new.......................


HOG INSULT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

spilledthebeer

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And that would be wrong like most wild guesses.You lack experience with west coast ecoterrorists.


I NOTE with cynical amusement that you HAVE FAILED to name a single place..................


where wood burning is TOTALLY BANNED AT ALL TIMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


My experience with COAST TO COAST civil service union HOGS...........................


enables me to quickly and easily dismantle your pathetic arguments and HOG entitlements!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

petros

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I NOTE with cynical amusement that you HAVE FAILED to name a single place..................


where wood burning is TOTALLY BANNED AT ALL TIMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


My experience with COAST TO COAST civil service union HOGS...........................


enables me to quickly and easily dismantle your pathetic arguments and HOG entitlements!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Montreal is a notable example. There are hundreds of smaller cities and towns with wood burning bans across Canada.
 

spilledthebeer

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And that would be wrong like most wild guesses.You lack experience with west coast ecoterrorists.


Why dont you go ahead and cite us evidence of your experience..........................


LEAVING OUT THE WISHFUL THINKING and LIE-beral propaganda!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And adhering ONLY TO PROVEN FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



But adhering to such specifications would VERY LIKELY leave you SPEECHLESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Now wouldnt it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!