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Just for the record, Moose, I have you on 'ignore' but have occasionally opened your posts out of curiosity. Bad idea. Why don't I stick to the standard advice about internet trolls, spammers and the like: Ignore them.
He a little on the "thick" side but is by no means the most pernicious troll on here.
 

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It's an unfortunate and undesirable effect of mass public protest to be sure.
It is also thoughtless, uncaring of outcomes and selfish.

But it's apparently quite acceptable in celebration of big sporting events, parades, firework displays etc. Do people only object if a) they themselves disagree with or don't care about the protest and/or b) they're personally disadvantaged?
The difference being that in general such events are well-planned and the public is made aware of streets that will be blocked, parade routes are defined and fireworks displays are contained in one area of which the public is also made aware - all well ahead of time.
 

VIBC

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.... such events (sports celebrations etc) are well-planned ...
... but sometimes not, and they sometimes develop into violent rioting. Just like with public protests, which can also be well planned and remain orderly - or not. Both types of display can involve and have involved thoughtless, uncaring and selfish people intent on civic disruption (who may be interlopers not part of the plan).
 

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There's nothing surprising about people in some countries seeking to limit competition by others, within their major industries. That's just modern economics, or good old greed, at work.

This thread is titled "Greta", not 'Pipelines'; but talking about that young woman's outcry, very legitimately leads in several directions. Discussing whether, how or why 'the rich and famous in China & India' (names?) protest, doesn't seem too relevant.




If Greta truly wanted to save the world, should she not be targeting the big CO2 producers (China & India) first?
 

Curious Cdn

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... but sometimes not, and they sometimes develop into violent rioting. Just like with public protests, which can also be well planned and remain orderly - or not. Both types of display can involve and have involved thoughtless, uncaring and selfish people intent on civic disruption (who may be interlopers not part of the plan).
Greta's all that, is she? ... a Swedish Abby Hoffman?
 

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"MADRID – For more than a year, children and young people from around the world have been striking for the climate. We launched a movement that defied all expectations, with millions of people lending their voices – and their bodies – to the cause. We did this not because it was our dream, but because we didn’t see anyone else taking action to secure our future. And despite the vocal support we have received from many adults – including some of the world’s most powerful leaders – we still don’t.
Reaping the digital revolution’s benefits, and avoiding its pitfalls, will require the world to manage an unprecedented structural transformation for which it is woefully unprepared. A comprehensive investigation into the implications of the digital revolution is thus urgently needed.
Striking is not a choice we relish; we do it because we see no other options. We have watched a string of United Nations climate conferences unfold. Countless negotiations have produced much-hyped but ultimately empty commitments from the world’s governments – the same governments that allow fossil-fuel companies to drill for ever-more oil and gas, and burn away our futures for their profit.
Politicians and fossil-fuel companies have known about climate change for decades. And yet the politicians let the profiteers continue to exploit our planet’s resources and destroy its ecosystems in a quest for quick cash that threatens our very existence.
Don’t take our word for it: scientists are sounding the alarm. They warn that we have never been less likely to limit the rise in global temperatures to 1.5 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels – the threshold beyond which the most destructive effects of climate change would be triggered.
Worse, recent research shows that we are on track to produce 120% more fossil fuels in 2030 than would be consistent with the 1.5°C limit.The concentration of climate-heating greenhouse gases in our atmosphere has reached a record high, with no sign of a slowdown. Even if countries fulfill their current emissions-reduction pledges, we are headed for a 3.2°C increase.
Young people like us bear the brunt of our leaders’ failures. Research shows that pollution from burning fossil fuels is the world’s most significant threat to children’s health. Just this month, five million masks were handed out at schools in New Delhi, India’s capital, owing to toxic smog. Fossil fuels are literally choking the life from us.
The science is crying out for urgent action, and still our leaders dare to ignore it. So we continue to fight.
After a year of strikes, our voices are being heard. We are being invited to speak in the corridors of power. At the UN, we addressed a room filled with world leaders. At the World Economic Forum in Davos, we met with prime ministers, presidents, and even the pope. We have spent hundreds of hours participating in panels and speaking with journalists and filmmakers. We have been offered awards for our activism.
Our efforts have helped to shift the wider conversation on climate change. People now increasingly discuss the crisis we face, not in whispers or as an afterthought, but publicly and with a sense of urgency. Polls confirm changing perceptions. One recent survey showed that, in seven of the eight countries included, climate breakdown is considered to be the most important issue facing the world. Another confirmed that schoolchildren have led the way in raising awareness.
With public opinion shifting, world leaders, too, say that they have heard us. They say that they agree with our demand for urgent action to tackle the climate crisis. But they do nothing. As they head to Madrid for the 25th session of the Conference of the Parties (COP25) to the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, we call out this hypocrisy.
On the next two Fridays, we will again take to the streets: worldwide on November 29, and in Madrid, Santiago, and many other places on December 6 during the UN climate conference. Schoolchildren, young people, and adults all over the world will stand together, demanding that our leaders take action – not because we want them to, but because the science demands it.
That action must be powerful and wide-ranging. After all, the climate crisis is not just about the environment. It is a crisis of human rights, of justice, and of political will. Colonial, racist, and patriarchal systems of oppression have created and fueled it. We need to dismantle them all. Our political leaders can no longer shirk their responsibilities.
Some say that the Madrid conference is not very important; the big decisions will be made at COP26 in Glasgow next year. We disagree. As the science makes clear, we don’t have a single day to lose.
We have learned that, if we do not step up, nobody will. So we will keep up a steady drumbeat of strikes, protests, and other actions. We will become louder and louder. We will do whatever it takes to persuade our leaders to unite behind science so clear that even children understand it.
Collective action works; we have proved that. But to change everything, we need everyone. Each and every one of us must participate in the climate resistance movement. We cannot just say we care; we must show it.
Join us. Participate in our upcoming climate strikes in Madrid or in your hometown. Show your community, the fossil-fuel industry, and your political leaders that you will not tolerate inaction on climate change anymore. With numbers on our side, we have a chance.
And to the leaders who are headed to Madrid, our message is simple: the eyes of all future generations are upon you. Act accordingly."
"https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/climate-strikes-un-conference-madrid-by-greta-thunberg-et-al-2019-11
 

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Oh goody, here come the useless nazi commie globalist idjits.
;)
while backers like soros buy up the coal plants


Climate philanthropist George Soros invests millions in coal

Billionaire has previously funded renewable energy and low-carbon initiatives and has called coal a ‘lethal bullet’ for climate change

Billionaire climate philanthropist George Soros invested more than $2m (£1.3m) in struggling coal giants Peabody Energy and Arch Coal in recent months, despite having once called the fuel “lethal” to the climate.

Filings with the Securities and Exchange commission show that between April and June this year Soros Fund Management (SFM) bought more than 1m shares in Peabody ($2.25m), the world’s largest private coal company, and 500,000 shares in Arch ($188,000).

The firm, which Soros chairs, bought the large stakes for bargain prices. Peabody and Arch are giants of the US coal sector but have suffered massive declines in recent years, losing more than 98% of their value.
https://www.theguardian.com/environ...hropist-george-soros-invests-millions-in-coal

Fascist climate commie nazis have serious genocidal financial issues doood.

Seriously: fakenews genociders, like fakenews chicken coupers, should all get their last chair.
 
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He a little on the "thick" side but is by no means the most pernicious troll on here.
LOL, says epstein, the nazi commie globalist weener who wants all the parent's guns ( like Hitler did to the jews ) and who defends genocidal holocausters like george soros ( Who helped round up those jews with money and also see post above), and who can't win an argument because he left his brain in a dumper in jokeville.




16-year-old climate change activist Greta Thunberg has quickly risen to become one of the world’s most prominent political leaders, inspiring a mass movement of millions seemingly out of thin air to combat the problem of global warming.


However, the young girl’s sudden ascent to prominence is not happening by chance. She has deep connections to the globalist elite and activist parents who are supporters of the far-left domestic terrorist group ANTIFA.
https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2019/09/28/gretas-soros-connections/

Seriously, the whole problem with oil in canada:



LOL, genocidal b*tches...always with the children, eh? This is why Yorgie is always carrying on trying to start trouble, it helps bring the price of our resources down for the same people who run the holocaust industry.

A little color revolution...maybe a commie union style train strike...weaponize some children...( always with the children, just like the rented ones down at the border and at Epstein the blackmail spy's island and ranch )...a massive troll campaign...

This is why people like Yorgie and all those matching socks support the same anti nationalist anti human policies. GREED.
 
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When I see semi-coherent language like ....

- useless nazi commie globalist idjits.
- nazi commie globalist weener
- blackmail spy

or headlines like: MUST READ

.... I know there's hysterical drivel coming and I switch off. Does anybody read this kind of stuff?
 

Curious Cdn

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When I see semi-coherent language like ....
- useless nazi commie globalist idjits.
- nazi commie globalist weener
- blackmail spy
or headlines like: MUST READ
.... I know there's hysterical drivel coming and I switch off. Does anybody read this kind of stuff?
You'll have to excuse him. He is quite off his rocker.
 

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Just for the record, Moose, I have you on 'ignore' but have occasionally opened your posts out of curiosity. Bad idea. Why don't I stick to the standard advice about internet trolls, spammers and the like: Ignore them.

I thought you swore to never come back since last time you were embarrassed
 

DaSleeper

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When I see semi-coherent language like ....

- useless nazi commie globalist idjits.
- nazi commie globalist weener
- blackmail spy

or headlines like: MUST READ

.... I know there's hysterical drivel coming and I switch off. Does anybody read this kind of stuff?
You forgot racist white Natys.........Ooops......forgot to add climate change denier!!!
 

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Funny how this global movement allows for the massive expansion of the oil/gas industry and pipelines in their own countries, but magically seeks to demonize all of Canada for wanting the same.




Ohhh......................that aint funny at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That is an INSULT to the Cdn "demons"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And here is an article illustrating why cars will continue to be used in Canada::::


Here is an article notable as much for what it DOES NOT SAY -more than what it does tell us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

With some comments of my own in brackets):

TTC pulls streetcars from Queen Street due to braking problems

By Kamil Karamali, Global News, November 28,

Report: a passenger bus that is parked on the side of a road: Buses have temporarily replaced streetcars on the Queen Street route as crews work to fix track problems.

The Toronto Transit Commission said it has pulled all 35 streetcars from Queen Street Wednesday because of a braking issues — and has replaced the route with as many as 90 buses.

"Initially, it was seven [streetcars], but as we continued to look at the streetcars throughout the day, the damage was found on 19 of them," TTC spokesperson, Kadeem Griffiths, said.

The TTC adds that it doesn't know what caused the problem.

(How ODD that TTC should take delivery of a bunch of Bombardier street cars and then magically star having problems with DAMAGE to the braking system???
Should we ask if it is the street car design that is WRONG?? Or has there been SLOPPY track work that is damaging the machines??)

(After all - if a driver HIT something on the road that was actually DAMAGING the machine - would driver NOT NOTICE THE THUMP??????????????)

(Shal we ask if Bombardier is SCREWING TTC yet again?? It is bad enough that Bombardier was YEARS LATE in delivering the new machines!! And WORSE YET that no sooner where the machines delivered - than TTC had to start shipping them back to get SHODDY FRAME WELDS REPAIRED!! And now we are expected NOT to be pissed and suspicious of this latest problem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(That BILLION DOLLAR GRANT that Our idiot Boy Justin gave to his Quebec supporters at Bombardier DID NOT buy much good will or good work!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Griffiths said the issue is not with the main braking system, but the supplementary braking systems on the streetcars — all roughly in the same spot.

(So multiple vehilces with exactly the same damage - indicates either a car design flaw or a track installation flaw - and since the OLD streetcars did not have such problems- there is a POWERFUL TEMPTATION to assume Bombardier SCREWED US YET AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

TTC said it will inspect the tracks along the 501 Queen Street route, west of Roncesvalles, to try and determine what is causing the damage to the streetcars.

In the meantime, it has also increased the number of streetcars along 504 King Street and 506 Carlton so that commuters have more options in case they don't want to use the buses.

"It takes about three-ish buses to replace one streetcar, so we know it's going to be a little bit crowded especially during peak rush hour," said Griffiths.

"So we've increased the number of streetcars on parallel routes."

The TTC is asking commuters for patience as the transit agency tries to resolve the issue.

(OH GREAT!! Our LIE-beral overlordfs are making comprehensive plans to FORCE US ALL to take public transit that is ALREADY OVER LOADED and which is becoming MORE RAMSHACKLE and unreliable by the day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(In related news -OC Transpo - the Ottawa public transit system despaired of getting anything useful from Bombardier- OCTranspo LEARNED from the TTC MESS -and thus they went to a French maker for their LRT cars - and of course there are now MULTIPLE HOURS LONG DELAYS as the new car doors will not close properly and the cars WILL NOT MOVE - while the doors are open!!!!!!!!!)

(TTC is watching the OCTranspo MESS with interest as Metrolinx has the intention of dealing with the same French company in future and BY-PASSING Bombardier completely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(IN other Transit news- TTC is looking at ways of SERIOUSLY ALTERING and improving its PRESTO card fare payment system!! Presto was chosen by TTC over the protests of many citizens who cited PRESTO as THE LEAST RELIABLE and most costly of several options - yet TTC went ahead anyway!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(And now the TTC has essentially admitted the critics were RIGHT - as TTC flounders with broken Presto card readers and MILLIONS OF DOLLARS in lost fares!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Griffiths adds there is no time line for when the streetcars will be back on track.

(Why should we expect a swift solution to ANY GOVT ISSUE?? After all E-health IS STILL FARTING AROUND - trying to produce a useful computerized health record system and God only knows how much they have spent thus far!!!!!)

(Or we could look at the Phoenix pay system - basically conceived of during the Harper Conservative years and then designed and built by our vaunted civil service union HOGS - and then Phoenix was completed and implemented under Our idiot Boy and his loser LIE-berals -WITH OUT ANY preliminary testing and WITH OUT any back up plan if anything went wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(Our HOGS have been screwing around with Phoenix for FOUR YEARS and still cannot fix their Frankenstein PAY MONSTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

(One has to ask if LIE-beral govt EVER GETS VALUE FOR MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
 

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"MADRID – For more than a year, children and young people from around the world have been striking for the climate. We launched a movement that defied all expectations, with millions of people lending their voices – and their bodies – to the cause. We did this not because it was our dream, but because we didn’t see anyone else taking action to secure our future. And despite the vocal support we have received from many adults – including some of the world’s most powerful leaders – we still don’t.
Reaping the digital revolution’s benefits, and avoiding its pitfalls, will require the world to manage an unprecedented structural transformation for which it is woefully unprepared. A comprehensive investigation into the implications of the digital revolution is thus urgently needed.
Striking is not a choice we relish; we do it because we see no other options. We have watched a string of United Nations climate conferences unfold. Countless negotiations have produced much-hyped but ultimately empty commitments from the world’s governments – the same governments that allow fossil-fuel companies to drill for ever-more oil and gas, and burn away our futures for their profit.
Politicians and fossil-fuel companies have known about climate change for decades. And yet the politicians let the profiteers continue to exploit our planet’s resources and destroy its ecosystems in a quest for quick cash that threatens our very existence.
Don’t take our word for it: scientists are sounding the alarm. They warn that we have never been less likely to limit the rise in global temperatures to 1.5 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels – the threshold beyond which the most destructive effects of climate change would be triggered.
Worse, recent research shows that we are on track to produce 120% more fossil fuels in 2030 than would be consistent with the 1.5°C limit.The concentration of climate-heating greenhouse gases in our atmosphere has reached a record high, with no sign of a slowdown. Even if countries fulfill their current emissions-reduction pledges, we are headed for a 3.2°C increase.
Young people like us bear the brunt of our leaders’ failures. Research shows that pollution from burning fossil fuels is the world’s most significant threat to children’s health. Just this month, five million masks were handed out at schools in New Delhi, India’s capital, owing to toxic smog. Fossil fuels are literally choking the life from us.
The science is crying out for urgent action, and still our leaders dare to ignore it. So we continue to fight.
After a year of strikes, our voices are being heard. We are being invited to speak in the corridors of power. At the UN, we addressed a room filled with world leaders. At the World Economic Forum in Davos, we met with prime ministers, presidents, and even the pope. We have spent hundreds of hours participating in panels and speaking with journalists and filmmakers. We have been offered awards for our activism.
Our efforts have helped to shift the wider conversation on climate change. People now increasingly discuss the crisis we face, not in whispers or as an afterthought, but publicly and with a sense of urgency. Polls confirm changing perceptions. One recent survey showed that, in seven of the eight countries included, climate breakdown is considered to be the most important issue facing the world. Another confirmed that schoolchildren have led the way in raising awareness.
With public opinion shifting, world leaders, too, say that they have heard us. They say that they agree with our demand for urgent action to tackle the climate crisis. But they do nothing. As they head to Madrid for the 25th session of the Conference of the Parties (COP25) to the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, we call out this hypocrisy.
On the next two Fridays, we will again take to the streets: worldwide on November 29, and in Madrid, Santiago, and many other places on December 6 during the UN climate conference. Schoolchildren, young people, and adults all over the world will stand together, demanding that our leaders take action – not because we want them to, but because the science demands it.
That action must be powerful and wide-ranging. After all, the climate crisis is not just about the environment. It is a crisis of human rights, of justice, and of political will. Colonial, racist, and patriarchal systems of oppression have created and fueled it. We need to dismantle them all. Our political leaders can no longer shirk their responsibilities.
Some say that the Madrid conference is not very important; the big decisions will be made at COP26 in Glasgow next year. We disagree. As the science makes clear, we don’t have a single day to lose.
We have learned that, if we do not step up, nobody will. So we will keep up a steady drumbeat of strikes, protests, and other actions. We will become louder and louder. We will do whatever it takes to persuade our leaders to unite behind science so clear that even children understand it.
Collective action works; we have proved that. But to change everything, we need everyone. Each and every one of us must participate in the climate resistance movement. We cannot just say we care; we must show it.
Join us. Participate in our upcoming climate strikes in Madrid or in your hometown. Show your community, the fossil-fuel industry, and your political leaders that you will not tolerate inaction on climate change anymore. With numbers on our side, we have a chance.
And to the leaders who are headed to Madrid, our message is simple: the eyes of all future generations are upon you. Act accordingly."
"https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/climate-strikes-un-conference-madrid-by-greta-thunberg-et-al-2019-11
The single and most important fact was missing, as usual. ANd that is without demand for a product there would be no great push to get it to market. So who is really at fault here: Billions of people that want modern conveniences, or the few that boldly risk everything to produce these products?
 

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Oh goody, here come the useless nazi commie globalist idjits.
;)
while backers like soros buy up the coal plants
Climate philanthropist George Soros invests millions in coal
Billionaire has previously funded renewable energy and low-carbon initiatives and has called coal a ‘lethal bullet’ for climate change
Billionaire climate philanthropist George Soros invested more than $2m (£1.3m) in struggling coal giants Peabody Energy and Arch Coal in recent months, despite having once called the fuel “lethal” to the climate.
Filings with the Securities and Exchange commission show that between April and June this year Soros Fund Management (SFM) bought more than 1m shares in Peabody ($2.25m), the world’s largest private coal company, and 500,000 shares in Arch ($188,000).
The firm, which Soros chairs, bought the large stakes for bargain prices. Peabody and Arch are giants of the US coal sector but have suffered massive declines in recent years, losing more than 98% of their value.
https://www.theguardian.com/environ...hropist-george-soros-invests-millions-in-coal
Fascist climate commie nazis have serious genocidal financial issues doood.
Seriously: fakenews genociders, like fakenews chicken coupers, should all get their last chair.
Makes perfect sense. Get the usdful idiots to drive down the share price by falsely claiming their product is bad and then buy shares at rock bottom prices. Will the useful idiots be outraged that they have been used? Unlikely because they are idiots afterall.
 

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Oh OK, you schooled me on the way I feel. OK can we carry on now that you got your condescending shot on me?
I don't know of anyone who is scared of her. As a symbol of the ignorant, and/or lying climate fanatics, surely she has to be the last desperate attempt to scare us. These scum are counting on her corralling an audience of kids who know no better, nice adults who would never be nasty to a young person, and of course the liars in the U.N, Canada's Liberal, Green, NDP Parties who are likely all aware that if this fails, so does their attempt at something all of them have admitted to at various times. That is worlwide income redistribution and government. I repeat, they have all admitted this at one time or another over the past 30-40 years. Suzuki the fruit fly man, Gore the lying POS politician, Hansen, Mann, Jones etc.. All prophecied doom 30 + years ago, and all made money out of their lies.



News from our cretin sheep like media last night (CTV or Global) showed some big wig from the U.N literally hysterically
shouting little Greta's main lie, "we have only 12 years before it will be all over".

I agree with this POS. In 12 years, all these hominids and criminals will be over and done with.