Right now they are relying on the screamers around Edson/Fox valley Alta., as they need more they will pipe in more from the East and the North.
"The west wants out": Separatist sentiments growing in Alberta
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The Canadian Govt doesn't run Global Oil, they sell our oil to the US at $50 less a bbl than we would get on the open market. Big oil also likes to let out needed things at a trickle so it is as expensive for consumers as possible, oil and diamonds are the same thing to them. Commodities that can be sold for a lot more than they are actually worth.
The Place has lots of expensive paintings. $1m painting is $100 worth of paint and the gold frame covers the rest on the value. (rather than the paint is worth all the money and the frame has no value.
If Canada is controlled by foreign interests the best AB could do is to strike a deal with the World Bank to pay them directly and have that be a larger amount than Ottawa gives them at the moment. To do that expand our borders to include all of the land that would include Labrador if they wanted.
Lower Canada gets eaten by the US is no different than today, except they would be the same as Puerto Rico or Cuba rather than being a 'favored state'.
The killing of Natives is still going on under you very nose in the north. Clearly you are part of the problem rather than being part of the solution. The Jews quit bragging about it than long ago, denial took over rather than they quit. Not that hard to crack a lie from 'a Jewish fuktard' such as yourself. (if you feel like exchanging appropriate labels, Signed fruitloop)
The World Banks owns governments and you think those same entities (that are bribed to the ass) now turn it around to tell big oil what it can and can't do?
How much lobbying did the Canadian Govt have to do to sell oil to the US at less than the open market price?? That is how impossible your version is. I suppose you think Health Canada writes policy for Canada rather that the WHO writes what will go on. A few speeches to the Senate lately would have the WHO as being the only reason anybody is even still alive in the disease ridden land known as Canada. It is well documented if you need the links.
The World Banks owns governments and you think those same entities (that are bribed to the ass) now turn it around to tell big oil what it can and can't do?
How much lobbying did the Canadian Govt have to do to sell oil to the US at less than the open market price?? That is how impossible your version is. I suppose you think Health Canada writes policy for Canada rather that the WHO writes what will go on. A few speeches to the Senate lately would have the WHO as being the only reason anybody is even still alive in the disease ridden land known as Canada. It is well documented if you need the links.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/rep...id-with-its-oil-and-we-didnt/article11959362/
When oil was discovered in the Norwegian continental shelf in 1969, Norway was very aware of the finite nature of petroleum, and didn't waste any time legislating policies to manage the new-found resource in a way that would give Norwegians long-term wealth, benefit their entire society and make them competitive beyond just a commodities exporter.
"Norway got the basics right quite early on," says John Calvert, a political science professor at Simon Fraser University. "They understood what this was about and they put in place public policy that they have benefited so much from."
This is in contrast to Canada's free-market approach, he contends, where our government is discouraged from long-term public planning, in favour of allowing the market to determine the pace and scope of development.
"I would argue quite strongly that the Norwegians have done a much better job of managing their [petroleum] resource," Prof. Calvert says.
While No. 15 on the World Economic Forum's global competitiveness rankings, Norway is ranked third out of all countries on its macroeconomic environment (up from fourth last year), "driven by windfall oil revenues combined with prudent fiscal management," according to the Forum.
Before oil was discovered, the Act of 21 June 1963 was already in place for managing the Norwegian continental shelf. This legislation has since been updated several times, most recently in 1996, now considered Norway's Petroleum Act, which includes protection for fisheries, communities and the environment.
In 1972, the government founded the precursor of Statoil ASA, an integrated petroleum company. (In 2012, Statoil dividends from government shares was $2.4-billion). In the same year, the Norwegian Petroleum Directorate was also established, a government administrative body that has the objective of "creating the greatest possible values for society from the oil and gas activities by means of prudent resource management."
In 1990, the precursor of the Government Pension Fund – Global (GPFG), a sovereign wealth fund, was established for surplus oil revenues. Today the GPFG is worth more than $700-billion.
While there's no question that Norway has done well from its oil and gas, unlike many resource-based nations, Norway has invested its petro dollars in such a way as to create and sustain other industries where it is also globally competitive.
The second largest export of Norway is supplies for the petroleum industry, points out Ole Anders Lindseth, the director general of the Ministry of Petroleum and Energy in Norway.
"So the oil and gas activities have rendered more than just revenue for the benefit of the future generations, but has also rendered employment, workplaces and highly skilled industries," Mr. Lindseth says.
Maximizing the resource is also very important.
Because the government is highly invested, (oil profits are taxed at 78 per cent, and in 2011 tax revenues were $36-billion), it is as interested as oil companies, which want to maximize their profits, in extracting the maximum amount of hydrocarbons from the reservoirs. This has inspired technological advances such as parallel drilling, Mr. Lindseth says.
"The extraction rate in Norway is around 50 per cent, which is extremely high in the world average," he adds.
Norway has also managed to largely avoid so-called Dutch disease (a decline in other exports due to a strong currency) for two reasons, Mr. Lindseth says. The GPFG wealth fund is largely invested outside Norway by legislation, and the annual maximum withdrawal is 4 per cent. Through these two measures, Norway has avoided hyper-inflation, and has been able to sustain its traditional industries.
In Norway, there's no industry more traditional than fishing.
"As far back as the 12th century they were already exporting stock fish to places in Europe," explains Rashid Sumaila, director of the Fisheries Economics Research Unit at the University of British Columbia Fisheries Centre.
Prof. Sumaila spent seven years studying economics in Norway and uses game theory to study fish stocks and ecosystems. Fish don't heed international borders and his research shows how co-operative behaviour is economically beneficial.
"Ninety per cent of the fish stocks that Norway depends on are shared with other countries. It's a country that has more co-operation and collaboration with other countries than any other country I know," Prof. Sumaila says.
"That's [partly] why they still have their cod and we've lost ours," he adds, pointing out that not only are quotas and illegal fishing heavily monitored, policy in Norway is based on scientific evidence and consideration for the sustainability of the ecosystem as a whole.
Prof. Sumaila cites the recent changes to Canada's Fisheries Act, as a counter-example: "To protect the habitat, you have to show a direct link between the habitat, the fish and the economy," he says, adding, "That's the kind of weakening that the Norwegians don't do."
Svein Jentoft is a professor in the faculty of Bioscience, Fisheries and Economics at the University of Tromso. He adds that Norway's co-operative management style, particularly domestically, has been key to the continued success of the fisheries.
"The management system [for fish stock] is an outcome of the positive, constructive and trustful relationship between the industry on the one hand and the government on the other hand," Prof. Jentoft says. "They have been able to agree on issues that you and many other countries haven't been able to, largely because the government has listened to the fishermen."
However, Prof. Jentoft isn't on board with all of his government's policies. He's concerned about how the quota and licensing system is concentrating wealth and the impact that this will have on fishing communities.
He predicts that Norway's wild stocks will remain healthy in the foreseeable future and that the aquaculture industry (fish farms), where Norwegians are world leaders, will continue to grow.
In 2009, Norway's total fish and seafood export was $7.1-billion, $3.8-billion was in aquaculture. By 2011, Norwegian aquaculture exports grew to $4.9-billion. In Canada, total fish and seafood exports in 2011 were $3.6-billion, with approximately one-third from aquaculture.
Norway's forests are another important natural resource, and its pulp-and-paper industry has many parallels to Canada's. Both nations are heavy exporters of newsprint. With much less demand since the wide adoption of the Internet and competition from modern mills from emerging markets, both nations have suffered through down-sizing and mill closures over the past decade. Both have been looking for ways to adapt.
The Borregaard pulp and paper mill in Sarpsborg has become one of the world's most advanced biorefineries. From wood, it creates four main products: specialty cellulose, lignosuphonates, vanillin and ethanol, along with 200 GWh a year of bioenergy.
"You have a diversified portfolio of products," explains Karin Oyaas, research manager at the Paper and Fibre Research Institute in Trondheim. "The Borregaard mill uses all parts of the wood and they have a variety of products, so if one of the products is priced low for a few years, then maybe some of the other products are priced high."
She feels this is a key change in direction for the industry in Norway. She doesn't want to see the industry putting all of its eggs in one basket, as it did with newsprint.
Dr. Oyaas also thinks that rebranding the industry is key to its survival and success in Norway. The forestry industry doesn't get the same kind of attention as the oil industry, nor does it have the high-tech image. But it is just as high-tech, and it has the bonus of being a renewable resource.
"You can make anything from the forest. You can make the same products that you can make from oil," explains Dr. Oyaas.
When oil was discovered in the Norwegian continental shelf in 1969, Norway was very aware of the finite nature of petroleum, and didn't waste any time legislating policies to manage the new-found resource in a way that would give Norwegians long-term wealth, benefit their entire society and make them competitive beyond just a commodities exporter.
"Norway got the basics right quite early on," says John Calvert, a political science professor at Simon Fraser University. "They understood what this was about and they put in place public policy that they have benefited so much from."
This is in contrast to Canada's free-market approach, he contends, where our government is discouraged from long-term public planning, in favour of allowing the market to determine the pace and scope of development.
"I would argue quite strongly that the Norwegians have done a much better job of managing their [petroleum] resource," Prof. Calvert says.
While No. 15 on the World Economic Forum's global competitiveness rankings, Norway is ranked third out of all countries on its macroeconomic environment (up from fourth last year), "driven by windfall oil revenues combined with prudent fiscal management," according to the Forum.
Before oil was discovered, the Act of 21 June 1963 was already in place for managing the Norwegian continental shelf. This legislation has since been updated several times, most recently in 1996, now considered Norway's Petroleum Act, which includes protection for fisheries, communities and the environment.
In 1972, the government founded the precursor of Statoil ASA, an integrated petroleum company. (In 2012, Statoil dividends from government shares was $2.4-billion). In the same year, the Norwegian Petroleum Directorate was also established, a government administrative body that has the objective of "creating the greatest possible values for society from the oil and gas activities by means of prudent resource management."
In 1990, the precursor of the Government Pension Fund – Global (GPFG), a sovereign wealth fund, was established for surplus oil revenues. Today the GPFG is worth more than $700-billion.
While there's no question that Norway has done well from its oil and gas, unlike many resource-based nations, Norway has invested its petro dollars in such a way as to create and sustain other industries where it is also globally competitive.
The second largest export of Norway is supplies for the petroleum industry, points out Ole Anders Lindseth, the director general of the Ministry of Petroleum and Energy in Norway.
"So the oil and gas activities have rendered more than just revenue for the benefit of the future generations, but has also rendered employment, workplaces and highly skilled industries," Mr. Lindseth says.
Maximizing the resource is also very important.
Because the government is highly invested, (oil profits are taxed at 78 per cent, and in 2011 tax revenues were $36-billion), it is as interested as oil companies, which want to maximize their profits, in extracting the maximum amount of hydrocarbons from the reservoirs. This has inspired technological advances such as parallel drilling, Mr. Lindseth says.
"The extraction rate in Norway is around 50 per cent, which is extremely high in the world average," he adds.
Norway has also managed to largely avoid so-called Dutch disease (a decline in other exports due to a strong currency) for two reasons, Mr. Lindseth says. The GPFG wealth fund is largely invested outside Norway by legislation, and the annual maximum withdrawal is 4 per cent. Through these two measures, Norway has avoided hyper-inflation, and has been able to sustain its traditional industries.
In Norway, there's no industry more traditional than fishing.
"As far back as the 12th century they were already exporting stock fish to places in Europe," explains Rashid Sumaila, director of the Fisheries Economics Research Unit at the University of British Columbia Fisheries Centre.
Prof. Sumaila spent seven years studying economics in Norway and uses game theory to study fish stocks and ecosystems. Fish don't heed international borders and his research shows how co-operative behaviour is economically beneficial.
"Ninety per cent of the fish stocks that Norway depends on are shared with other countries. It's a country that has more co-operation and collaboration with other countries than any other country I know," Prof. Sumaila says.
"That's [partly] why they still have their cod and we've lost ours," he adds, pointing out that not only are quotas and illegal fishing heavily monitored, policy in Norway is based on scientific evidence and consideration for the sustainability of the ecosystem as a whole.
Prof. Sumaila cites the recent changes to Canada's Fisheries Act, as a counter-example: "To protect the habitat, you have to show a direct link between the habitat, the fish and the economy," he says, adding, "That's the kind of weakening that the Norwegians don't do."
Svein Jentoft is a professor in the faculty of Bioscience, Fisheries and Economics at the University of Tromso. He adds that Norway's co-operative management style, particularly domestically, has been key to the continued success of the fisheries.
"The management system [for fish stock] is an outcome of the positive, constructive and trustful relationship between the industry on the one hand and the government on the other hand," Prof. Jentoft says. "They have been able to agree on issues that you and many other countries haven't been able to, largely because the government has listened to the fishermen."
However, Prof. Jentoft isn't on board with all of his government's policies. He's concerned about how the quota and licensing system is concentrating wealth and the impact that this will have on fishing communities.
He predicts that Norway's wild stocks will remain healthy in the foreseeable future and that the aquaculture industry (fish farms), where Norwegians are world leaders, will continue to grow.
In 2009, Norway's total fish and seafood export was $7.1-billion, $3.8-billion was in aquaculture. By 2011, Norwegian aquaculture exports grew to $4.9-billion. In Canada, total fish and seafood exports in 2011 were $3.6-billion, with approximately one-third from aquaculture.
Norway's forests are another important natural resource, and its pulp-and-paper industry has many parallels to Canada's. Both nations are heavy exporters of newsprint. With much less demand since the wide adoption of the Internet and competition from modern mills from emerging markets, both nations have suffered through down-sizing and mill closures over the past decade. Both have been looking for ways to adapt.
The Borregaard pulp and paper mill in Sarpsborg has become one of the world's most advanced biorefineries. From wood, it creates four main products: specialty cellulose, lignosuphonates, vanillin and ethanol, along with 200 GWh a year of bioenergy.
"You have a diversified portfolio of products," explains Karin Oyaas, research manager at the Paper and Fibre Research Institute in Trondheim. "The Borregaard mill uses all parts of the wood and they have a variety of products, so if one of the products is priced low for a few years, then maybe some of the other products are priced high."
She feels this is a key change in direction for the industry in Norway. She doesn't want to see the industry putting all of its eggs in one basket, as it did with newsprint.
Dr. Oyaas also thinks that rebranding the industry is key to its survival and success in Norway. The forestry industry doesn't get the same kind of attention as the oil industry, nor does it have the high-tech image. But it is just as high-tech, and it has the bonus of being a renewable resource.
"You can make anything from the forest. You can make the same products that you can make from oil," explains Dr. Oyaas.
Yup shows the attention I give you in my replies..
Oh well. You sound more Canadian than American.. AVRO.
Looks like Boomer can't handle the truth any better than most Trumpkins. Kenny is playing separatists like a cheep fiddle.
Conveniently forgetting that at that time there was supposed to be pipelines running 3 directions from Alberta. But the same people that feel entitled to Alberta money are preventing Alberta from getting products to market. So yes the entitlement programs must be changed.
He isn't with the Feds. anymore so he doesn't have to worry about how Quebec feels.
There are pipelines running 3 ways from alberta.
What they want is more pipelines running 3 directions from Alberta
Why Jason Kenney's proposed referendum is so puzzling
The full article can be read at the link below but I will skip to the part that got my attention. Thoughts?
"So if explaining how equalization works won’t satisfy is critics, and eliminating it won’t solve the problems they’ve identified, what should the federal government do? Here’s a deliberately mischievous suggestion: it could offer to return a portion of the GST collected in Alberta equivalent to any sales tax that it decides to implement, up to the full 5 per cent. A combined 10 per cent HST would solve literally all of Alberta’s deficit issues, and allow it to either cut other taxes or re-invest in infrastructure and program spending.
Yes, the federal government would lose the GST revenue that’s collected in Alberta, which was upwards of $5.6 billion in 2017. But it might gain some much-needed constitutional peace and harmony in the process, and put to rest the notion—one that now spans multiple generations—that Trudeau-lead federal governments are always out to put the screws to Alberta. If that’s too bitter a pill for some in Ottawa to swallow, they could tie the funds to climate-friendly infrastructure projects like the LRT expansions in Calgary and Edmonton that the Kenney government suddenly seems reluctant to commit to funding. Either way, it offers them a way out of this morass—one that we all seem to need more with each passing day.
www.macleans.ca/opinion/why-jason-kenneys-proposed-referendum-is-so-puzzling/
The full article can be read at the link below but I will skip to the part that got my attention. Thoughts?
"So if explaining how equalization works won’t satisfy is critics, and eliminating it won’t solve the problems they’ve identified, what should the federal government do? Here’s a deliberately mischievous suggestion: it could offer to return a portion of the GST collected in Alberta equivalent to any sales tax that it decides to implement, up to the full 5 per cent. A combined 10 per cent HST would solve literally all of Alberta’s deficit issues, and allow it to either cut other taxes or re-invest in infrastructure and program spending.
Yes, the federal government would lose the GST revenue that’s collected in Alberta, which was upwards of $5.6 billion in 2017. But it might gain some much-needed constitutional peace and harmony in the process, and put to rest the notion—one that now spans multiple generations—that Trudeau-lead federal governments are always out to put the screws to Alberta. If that’s too bitter a pill for some in Ottawa to swallow, they could tie the funds to climate-friendly infrastructure projects like the LRT expansions in Calgary and Edmonton that the Kenney government suddenly seems reluctant to commit to funding. Either way, it offers them a way out of this morass—one that we all seem to need more with each passing day.
www.macleans.ca/opinion/why-jason-kenneys-proposed-referendum-is-so-puzzling/
