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Ron in Regina

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I’m surprised looking at the above chart that there is no mention of US oil. I’m curious how much Canadian oil was sold to the US at about $13 a barrel only to be pumped back into eastern Canada through a US pipeline for $77 a barrel???
 

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That tanker ban is only on the west coast. We could export oil from any east coast port. Now if only we could build a few pipelines to the east coast.
 

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That tanker ban is only on the west coast. We could export oil from any east coast port. Now if only we could build a few pipelines to the east coast.
PM Blackface won't put a pipe thru Quebec.
 

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I’m surprised looking at the above chart that there is no mention of US oil. I’m curious how much Canadian oil was sold to the US at about $13 a barrel only to be pumped back into eastern Canada through a US pipeline for $77 a barrel???

A lot of the US crude being reported coming into Ont. is actually western crude coming in through the states on Enbridge pipelines. Enbridge doesn't follow the same route as TCPL, it actually crosses the border into the states south of Winnipeg to a terminal in Superior Wisconsin. From there the crude is either directed to Sarnia or to Eastern US refineries or South to Oklahoma.
 

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No, but they can put it to Ontario and build a refinery or use an existing one and outfit it for heavy crude.

Jobs for the Liberals voters.. JT should be all over that idea
PM Blackface will not help AB.
 

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No, but they can put it to Ontario and build a refinery or use an existing one and outfit it for heavy crude.

Jobs for the Liberals voters.. JT should be all over that idea


If we kept the resulting refined oil here.


Yeah, lots of people would be over this idea, or should be.




(I feel dirty now agreeing with Boomer)
 

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$19 billion. That's how much we spent importing oil just last year...

Meanwhile, we have tanker bans on moving Canadian oil. Does that seem fair to you?

Not sure if the loco collective is up to answering a straight up question like that.


The US also imports coal from Argentinian so the reason would have to be we have maxed out what we are allowed to make from oil royalties and other countries are getting what we are not. Think of it as we are saving the KSA Sheiks from starving.
 

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I’m surprised looking at the above chart that there is no mention of US oil. I’m curious how much Canadian oil was sold to the US at about $13 a barrel only to be pumped back into eastern Canada through a US pipeline for $77 a barrel???
It comes back as finished product mainly what's worse is BC is occasionally getting Russian oil as refined product. That is disturbing.
 

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$19 billion. That's how much we spent importing oil just last year...

Meanwhile, we have tanker bans on moving Canadian oil. Does that seem fair to you?

I say let pay more for their feed stock... More power to them if they can convince the useful idiots that it's cheaper to bring it over in tankers as opposed to pipelines
 

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$19 billion. That's how much we spent importing oil just last year...

Meanwhile, we have tanker bans on moving Canadian oil. Does that seem fair to you?
Considering it's a US-based attack, it seems odd you're so in favour of joining the US. As long as Canadian oil remains land-locked, the US is our primary and pretty much only customer, who's buying OUR oil at a deeply discounted price. But they're aren't entirely stupid either. Unlike their f*cking around in the ME, which was "official", they can't really do that to Canada without making their other allies wonder what the hell they're doing. So, they're going the unofficial route using NGO's to fund "Canadian" activists so it doesn't look like a yet another greed move by the US govt. The US still lives by the creedo, "It ain't their oil, they're just closer to it."


Think about it. Obama kills the Keystone XL because it would move "dirty" Canadian oil sands oil. Yet he opened up the Utah oil sands for exploration and exploitation. It's the same shit Alberta has. Seen or heard about any anti-oil protests there?
 

Serryah

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How would you get oil from Saskatchewan or Alberta to a Refinery in ON or QC to keep the refined oil here?


Ideally it'd be refined in Alberta or Saskatchewan, least that's what I would assume. It wouldn't have to be transported to say NB or ON or QC.


I don't get why it has to be.


But I gave up on trying to follow the oil crap a long time ago when everything on both sides pissed me off about it.
 

Jinentonix

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How would you get oil from Saskatchewan or Alberta to a Refinery in ON or QC to keep the refined oil here?
Same way they're shipping it overseas. Turn it into a "solid" and transport it in a shipping container by rail. Except instead of a shipping terminus, it's delivered to our refineries. If Quebec don't want a pipeline, they can have trains instead. Or better yet, don't even supply the Quebec refineries. F*ck 'em.
 

Ron in Regina

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Ideally it'd be refined in Alberta or Saskatchewan, least that's what I would assume. It wouldn't have to be transported to say NB or ON or QC.
I don't get why it has to be.
But I gave up on trying to follow the oil crap a long time ago when everything on both sides pissed me off about it.
I hear you. Perhaps I should rephrase though. How would you get Saskatchewan or Alberta crude from the oilsands let’s say... to a refinery in Montreal owned by Suncor that is already set up and refining Bitumen Products from western Canada? I am up at this time at night because my dogs are out peeing & they elected me as the “Opener of the door!”
It’s already happening but maybe there’s a better way. It’s crazy to think that it cannot be shipped from Western Canada to Eastern Canada because it’s dirty or it’s too dangerous, but it will gladly be accepted arriving by pipeline as long as it doesn’t originate directly from Western Canada but through a cut out in the US coming back into Canada by pipeline?? That somehow makes it acceptable even if it’s only politically acceptable in this convolutedly divided nation?? That too pisses me off. I get it.