Who judges God?
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Imaginary beings.
Mankind invented gods/goddesses to fill in the ? of life. We really don't need them anymore."In the end times, all will be revealed." If you have any awareness of what is going on in the world, you will know that we are in the end times. Doesn't mean we will cease to exist but that time will probably become irrelevant, along with duality (good/bad, you/me, ugly/beauty, right/wrong, etc). We are, after all, just conscious energy inhabiting a physical body. In the future, we will not need to take on a physical vehicle.
His parents, the same form that is your Judge.
God is a perfected being which means His 'home' is the 3rd heaven, Mount Sion from Hebrews:12 is that place and the Angels mentioned are the 2/3 that did not sin. That is their 'new Heaven' that is a perfected version of the heaven they are in at the moment, aka 'the universe'.
Angels are not given in marriage because God left them a bit less than perfect so they were not given in marriage. Once they are perfected in body (immortal) and mind (good Shepherd traits) they can be given on marriage and the child they will have will be born perfected. We are in the 1st heaven, Angels are in the 2nd heaven, God, his wife, aka 'the Holy Spirit' is his wife and Christ is their son.
Ge:1 is God's witness of creation (whole planet), Ge:2 is the witness of the Holy Spirit as seen through the eyes of Adam for the garden area only. Christ's witness is in the last half of Proverbs:8, the 1st half is about His 'depth of wisdom' rather than 'true age'.
Ge:1:1:
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Ge:1:2:
And the earth was without form,
and void;
and darkness was upon the face of the deep.
And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Ge:1:26:
And God said,
Let us make man in our image,
after our likeness:
and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea,
and over the fowl of the air,
and over the cattle,
and over all the earth,
and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Ge:1:27:
So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God created he him;
male and female created he them.
Re:4:2-9:
And immediately I was in the spirit:
and,
behold,
a throne was set in heaven,
and one sat on the throne.
And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices:
and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne,
which are the seven Spirits of God.
And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal:
and in the midst of the throne,
and round about the throne,
were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.
And the first beast was like a lion,
and the second beast like a calf,
and the third beast had a face as a man,
and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.
And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him;
and they were full of eyes within:
and they rest not day and night,
saying,
Holy,
holy,
holy,
Lord God Almighty,
which was,
and is,
and is to come.
And when those beasts give glory and honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne,
who liveth for ever and ever,
The setting for that scene is the start of the day that only God (himself) knows, by the time it is over all flesh that was ever conceived on this earth will have been resurrected to life in the new earth. The Universe is empty of any created beings at that point so mankind has an eternity to make it into a larger version of the original garden. Johnny will have a solar system to call 'home' and his family would have that whole galaxy as a starting point for a nation they will create.
Creating 'other flesh' that is based in the 4 beasts is like parents today naming a child after their grand-parents.
Why would that name sound the same once the 1,000 year reign starts as the language will be back to what Adam spoke and mankind lost at the Tower of Babel?Cliffy does not realize the word "GOD" has the same root word as GO, Gold ( and Gone), Government, Goad and Goal (etc).
Yet he speaks like he knows what the F*CK he is talking about.
Re:2:17:
He that hath an ear,
let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches;
To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna,
and will give him a white stone,
and in the stone a new name written,
which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.
Re:5:9:
And they sung a new song,
saying,
Thou art worthy to take the book,
and to open the seals thereof:
for thou wast slain,
and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred,
and tongue,
and people,
and nation;
Re:14:3:
And they sung as it were a new song before the throne,
and before the four beasts,
and the elders:
and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand,
which were redeemed from the earth.
Isa:65:15:
And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen:
for the Lord GOD shall slay thee,
and call his servants by another name:
The phonetic roots of the English language tell the tale - far be it for me to have to explain it to people below the required pay grade.
You'd have to understand why the word GOth is in the afore mentioned group of words too, to get it...and I don't see that type of illumination growing here at all.
You'd have to understand why the word GOth is in the afore mentioned group of words too, to get it...and I don't see that type of illumination growing here at all.
If God let Christ visit the grave He isn't going to be shy about how many people are there before the place is emptied.
The 'feel good' God you are seeking is not part of the future, we are owned by just one God, one that hates evil in all forms. We all want to hide from Him.
Sparrows feel the same way.
Lu:12:6-7:
Are not five sparrows sold for two farthings,
and not one of them is forgotten before God?
But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
Fear not therefore:
ye are of more value than many sparrows.
1Co:11:34:
And if any man hunger,
let him eat at home;
that ye come not together unto condemnation.
And the rest will I set in order when I come.
Hide? Really? Care to explain just how you will do that when these are the ones who will be doing the 'looking'?
Joe:2:1-11:
Blow ye the trumpet in Zion,
and sound an alarm in my holy mountain:
let all the inhabitants of the land tremble:
for the day of the LORD cometh,
for it is nigh at hand;
A day of darkness and of gloominess,
a day of clouds and of thick darkness,
as the morning spread upon the mountains:
a great people and a strong;
there hath not been ever the like,
neither shall be any more after it,
even to the years of many generations.
A fire devoureth before them;
and behind them a flame burneth:
the land is as the garden of Eden before them,
and behind them a desolate wilderness;
yea,
and nothing shall escape them.
The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses;
and as horsemen,
so shall they run.
Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap,
like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble,
as a strong people set in battle array.
Before their face the people shall be much pained:
all faces shall gather blackness.
They shall run like mighty men;
they shall climb the wall like men of war;
and they shall march every one on his ways,
and they shall not break their ranks:
Neither shall one thrust another;
they shall walk every one in his path:
and when they fall upon the sword,
they shall not be wounded.
They shall run to and fro in the city;
they shall run upon the wall,
they shall climb up upon the houses;
they shall enter in at the windows like a thief.
The earth shall quake before them;
the heavens shall tremble:
the sun and the moon shall be dark,
and the stars shall withdraw their shining:
And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army:
for his camp is very great:
for he is strong that executeth his word:
for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible;
and who can abide it?
Lu:12:6-7:
Are not five sparrows sold for two farthings,
and not one of them is forgotten before God?
But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
Fear not therefore:
ye are of more value than many sparrows.
1Co:11:34:
And if any man hunger,
let him eat at home;
that ye come not together unto condemnation.
And the rest will I set in order when I come.
Hide? Really? Care to explain just how you will do that when these are the ones who will be doing the 'looking'?
Joe:2:1-11:
Blow ye the trumpet in Zion,
and sound an alarm in my holy mountain:
let all the inhabitants of the land tremble:
for the day of the LORD cometh,
for it is nigh at hand;
A day of darkness and of gloominess,
a day of clouds and of thick darkness,
as the morning spread upon the mountains:
a great people and a strong;
there hath not been ever the like,
neither shall be any more after it,
even to the years of many generations.
A fire devoureth before them;
and behind them a flame burneth:
the land is as the garden of Eden before them,
and behind them a desolate wilderness;
yea,
and nothing shall escape them.
The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses;
and as horsemen,
so shall they run.
Like the noise of chariots on the tops of mountains shall they leap,
like the noise of a flame of fire that devoureth the stubble,
as a strong people set in battle array.
Before their face the people shall be much pained:
all faces shall gather blackness.
They shall run like mighty men;
they shall climb the wall like men of war;
and they shall march every one on his ways,
and they shall not break their ranks:
Neither shall one thrust another;
they shall walk every one in his path:
and when they fall upon the sword,
they shall not be wounded.
They shall run to and fro in the city;
they shall run upon the wall,
they shall climb up upon the houses;
they shall enter in at the windows like a thief.
The earth shall quake before them;
the heavens shall tremble:
the sun and the moon shall be dark,
and the stars shall withdraw their shining:
And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army:
for his camp is very great:
for he is strong that executeth his word:
for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible;
and who can abide it?
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Proud to be worldly, wise and civilized
Came out on top, might as well still be in the mud
So sure he's where he belongs
Though its been proven time and time again
He still won't admit he's been wrong
All this time
Sure of himself and of his place in his universe
Facts would suggest he is overripe and underdone
As naive as the day is long
Though its been proven time and time again
He still won't admit he's been wrong
All this time
Created by God when it's really the other way around
Evolution's slave, chosen by coincidence
Thinks that he was the one all along
Though it's been proven time and time again
He still won't admit he's been wrong
All this time
-Barstool Prophets
Came out on top, might as well still be in the mud
So sure he's where he belongs
Though its been proven time and time again
He still won't admit he's been wrong
All this time
Sure of himself and of his place in his universe
Facts would suggest he is overripe and underdone
As naive as the day is long
Though its been proven time and time again
He still won't admit he's been wrong
All this time
Created by God when it's really the other way around
Evolution's slave, chosen by coincidence
Thinks that he was the one all along
Though it's been proven time and time again
He still won't admit he's been wrong
All this time
-Barstool Prophets
Why would you? I am going to assume you have heard most of the doctrine that leads to a supposed 7 year trib. That is a false doctrine, what I consider to be the true doctrine will all be new to you. The only danger to you by listening to me is that you will start to agree with a point or two. That would cause a conversion in you if you were free to do that. Your 'friends' would resist and abandon you.
Joh:12:42-43:
Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him;
but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him,
lest they should be put out of the synagogue:
For they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God.
The 7 letters to the 7 churches are 14 different relationship that mankind can have with God after hearing His name. That relationship is judged on the day the two witnesses are resurrected. Some time ago I would have been in the 'hot/cold' church, about 30 years ago I started to read the book for myself. When you can talk at length about a subject you are an expert. When you can spot the errors in other doctrine that is 'above expert'. There are no sites that promote universal salvation and having the iron/clay kingdom as not having started yet. A quick study would get the idea after a few days, the stubborn child night take a whole month. The Bible is a pretty big book so that is a 'very short time' really.
You can still view the book as fiction, the story is the same either way. In one Jesus came alive again and in the other it says He came alive again.
If I can take the Bible apart in my research and come to a sane conclusion why would you think I cannot do that with almost any subject that has 'mysteries' attached.
Quran 13: 43, which means:
(God judges [disbelievers with everlasting imprisonment in Hell]; there is none to change His judgment k: and He is Swift in punishment.)
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43 k i.e. none can avert His decree, neither is there anyone to avert His punishment.
Yet, God does not wrong anyone by increasing his deserved punishment or by decreasing his deserved reward.
As God - be glorified - said in the Quran 43: 74-78, which mean:
([God – be glorified – explained about what He has prepared for the guilty in the Next Life, and He said:]
74. The guilty [will] dwell forever in the chastisement of Hell,
75. that [will] not be ‘lessened or interrupted’ for them a, and therein they [will] despair b.
76. We wrong them not c, but they themselves did the wrong d.
77. And they [will] cry [while being in Hell]: "O 'Keeper' e [of Hell], let your Lord bring an end of us [by death f.]" He [will] say: "But surely you are going to abide [in Hell; souls die not.]"
78. "We did bring the true [religion] to you [in the life of the World], but most of you [people] were averse [and complying not] to the truth.")
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75 a But the chastisement is lasting on them.
75 b Of any hope of being saved, and will lose all blessings.
76 c By admitting them to Hell.
76 d So they deserve the chastisement on account of their wrong-doing.
77 e That is the angel in charge of Hell.
77 f And so we may be relieved.
The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly
http://quran-ayat.com/pret/43.htm#a43_74
quran-ayat.com/pret/43.htm#a43_74