CDN Election 2019

spilledthebeer

Executive Branch Member
Jan 26, 2017
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Weird, ain't it? Why don't y'all just cut taxes and run trillion dollar annual deficits like we do?




IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We are already ,much further in debt than Yankees are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And we only have a ROTTED OUT Military and Comrade Curious Cdn as offensive weapons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Mowich

Hall of Fame Member
Dec 25, 2005
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John Ivison: Desperate Trudeau antagonizes Mike Pence over abortion to score political points

Maybe it doesn’t matter if Mike Pence is upset with Justin Trudeau for raising the abortion issue during his courtesy visit to promote the new NAFTA deal.

He is, after all, just the vice-president of the U.S.A., and even former holders were not that impressed with the office. “The vice-presidency isn’t worth a pitcher of warm spit,” said John Nance Garner, who held the position between 1933-41. Only he didn’t say “spit”.

Still, it seemed ungracious to say the least that Trudeau would discomfit a guest who had come to make amends for past slights by the Trump Administration.

Pence came in peace. He complimented Trudeau on driving a “hard bargain” on the new NAFTA and talked of his intent to “reaffirm a successful partnership”.

There was no mention of Trudeau being “weak and dishonest”, as the president alleged a year ago – far less the prime minister being consigned to a “special place in hell”, as Donald Trump’s trade adviser, Peter Navarro, suggested during the negotiations.

Rarely in the field of international relations have two men shaken hands so often, in so short a period of time, as Trudeau and Pence.

But the prime minister clearly made the calculus that, despite the bonhomie, embarrassing his guest was in his best electoral interests.

Trudeau used the visit to raise concerns over women’s access to abortion in certain U.S. states – a complaint that would appear to have little relevance to a representative of the federal government, far less one on a trade mission.

The protest struck a discordant note in a relationship that appears to be back on song.

The prime minister has seen Trump lift tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminum.

Canada and the U.S. have a common goal of seeing the new NAFTA ratified this summer.

Pence said his government will renew calls for the Chinese government to release two “wrongfully detained” Canadian citizens.




. Gary Clement/National Post​


While it may be an exaggeration to say, as Pence did, that the relationship has never been stronger, it’s apparent Trump has decided to pacify his northern neighbours in order to concentrate on a more portentous trade war with China.

Why then would any Canadian prime minister deliberately antagonize the White House?

The answer appears to be because Trudeau is desperate and nothing much else is working.

That he was doing so for domestic political reasons was clear from his reference the previous day to “the backsliding of women’s rights that we’re seeing from conservative movements here in Canada and in the U.S.” At their joint press conference, Trudeau used the opportunity to say his government is a staunch defender of a woman’s right to choose.

As Pence, who is an equally vociferous pro-lifer, was obliged to point out, people in the U.S. and in Canada will deal with this domestic issue in the way they deem most appropriate.

The Trudeau government has fast built up a track record of trying, and failing, to export its progressive values to countries that decided, on reflection, they would prefer if Canada minded its own goddamned business.

The Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal nearly came unstuck over Canada’s progressive trade agenda; China resolved it would rather not “put people first” in any prospective deal; “Canadian values” on the environment, gender and Indigenous issues proved a hindrance, rather than a help, in striking the new NAFTA.

Chrystia Freeland, the global affairs minister, said back in August 2017 that a progressive agreement with the U.S. would fully support Canada’s efforts on climate change and add chapters on gender and Indigenous peoples.

The final agreement fell well short of those lofty goals.

Provisions on Indigenous rights, gender and labour rights were included – sufficient that Trudeau was able to make the claim Thursday that Democrats in Congress should support the new deal because it is an improvement on its predecessor.

But the truth is Canada’s progressive agenda was at odds with Trump’s priorities. It was a provocative distraction that riled U.S. officials like commerce secretary, Wilbur Ross, unnecessarily and made it harder to find a workable solution.

Canada emerged with a deal it can live with. Conservative leader Andrew Scheer’s comments that the new NAFTA is an “historic humiliation” lays it on too thick – as does Trudeau’s claim that the successful conclusion of negotiations was a “great day for Canada”.

Trudeau, Freeland, their staff and Canada’s professional negotiators deserve credit for negotiating away some of Trump’s more draconian demands. They hammered out a trade deal with a confirmed protectionist that, while it abrogated sovereignty in some areas, did not give away the farm.

Canada-U.S. relations sank to their post-war nadir and the disrespect the Trump Administration extended to its staunchest ally will not be easily forgotten by many Canadians.

But it’s Trudeau’s job to get on with the president, or in this case the vice-president. Telling him how to run his own country is not part of that remit.

nationalpost.com/opinion/john-ivison-desperate-trudeau-antagonizes-pence-over-abortion-to-score-political-points
 

Curious Cdn

Hall of Fame Member
Feb 22, 2015
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Our politicians get into trouble all the time while bringing up human rights issues in China and Russia, too.
 

Ocean Breeze

Hall of Fame Member
Jun 5, 2005
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don't think Trudeau should have brought up the abortion thing. Not wise.... Smacks of meddling and interference........on a red zone topic. Pence is a religious nit .... and who knows how he will relate that to volatile crazy Trump
 

Twin_Moose

Hall of Fame Member
Apr 17, 2017
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Trying to regain the popularity he won with his Trump resistance after losing it with SNC-Lavalin and Mark Norman. We should see tweets from Freeland soon to exacerbate the situation.
 

spilledthebeer

Executive Branch Member
Jan 26, 2017
9,296
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John Ivison: Desperate Trudeau antagonizes Mike Pence over abortion to score political points

Maybe it doesn’t matter if Mike Pence is upset with Justin Trudeau for raising the abortion issue during his courtesy visit to promote the new NAFTA deal.

He is, after all, just the vice-president of the U.S.A., and even former holders were not that impressed with the office. “The vice-presidency isn’t worth a pitcher of warm spit,” said John Nance Garner, who held the position between 1933-41. Only he didn’t say “spit”.

Still, it seemed ungracious to say the least that Trudeau would discomfit a guest who had come to make amends for past slights by the Trump Administration.

Pence came in peace. He complimented Trudeau on driving a “hard bargain” on the new NAFTA and talked of his intent to “reaffirm a successful partnership”.

There was no mention of Trudeau being “weak and dishonest”, as the president alleged a year ago – far less the prime minister being consigned to a “special place in hell”, as Donald Trump’s trade adviser, Peter Navarro, suggested during the negotiations.

Rarely in the field of international relations have two men shaken hands so often, in so short a period of time, as Trudeau and Pence.

But the prime minister clearly made the calculus that, despite the bonhomie, embarrassing his guest was in his best electoral interests.

Trudeau used the visit to raise concerns over women’s access to abortion in certain U.S. states – a complaint that would appear to have little relevance to a representative of the federal government, far less one on a trade mission.

The protest struck a discordant note in a relationship that appears to be back on song.

The prime minister has seen Trump lift tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminum.

Canada and the U.S. have a common goal of seeing the new NAFTA ratified this summer.

Pence said his government will renew calls for the Chinese government to release two “wrongfully detained” Canadian citizens.




. Gary Clement/National Post​


While it may be an exaggeration to say, as Pence did, that the relationship has never been stronger, it’s apparent Trump has decided to pacify his northern neighbours in order to concentrate on a more portentous trade war with China.

Why then would any Canadian prime minister deliberately antagonize the White House?

The answer appears to be because Trudeau is desperate and nothing much else is working.

That he was doing so for domestic political reasons was clear from his reference the previous day to “the backsliding of women’s rights that we’re seeing from conservative movements here in Canada and in the U.S.” At their joint press conference, Trudeau used the opportunity to say his government is a staunch defender of a woman’s right to choose.

As Pence, who is an equally vociferous pro-lifer, was obliged to point out, people in the U.S. and in Canada will deal with this domestic issue in the way they deem most appropriate.

The Trudeau government has fast built up a track record of trying, and failing, to export its progressive values to countries that decided, on reflection, they would prefer if Canada minded its own goddamned business.

The Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal nearly came unstuck over Canada’s progressive trade agenda; China resolved it would rather not “put people first” in any prospective deal; “Canadian values” on the environment, gender and Indigenous issues proved a hindrance, rather than a help, in striking the new NAFTA.

Chrystia Freeland, the global affairs minister, said back in August 2017 that a progressive agreement with the U.S. would fully support Canada’s efforts on climate change and add chapters on gender and Indigenous peoples.

The final agreement fell well short of those lofty goals.

Provisions on Indigenous rights, gender and labour rights were included – sufficient that Trudeau was able to make the claim Thursday that Democrats in Congress should support the new deal because it is an improvement on its predecessor.

But the truth is Canada’s progressive agenda was at odds with Trump’s priorities. It was a provocative distraction that riled U.S. officials like commerce secretary, Wilbur Ross, unnecessarily and made it harder to find a workable solution.

Canada emerged with a deal it can live with. Conservative leader Andrew Scheer’s comments that the new NAFTA is an “historic humiliation” lays it on too thick – as does Trudeau’s claim that the successful conclusion of negotiations was a “great day for Canada”.

Trudeau, Freeland, their staff and Canada’s professional negotiators deserve credit for negotiating away some of Trump’s more draconian demands. They hammered out a trade deal with a confirmed protectionist that, while it abrogated sovereignty in some areas, did not give away the farm.

Canada-U.S. relations sank to their post-war nadir and the disrespect the Trump Administration extended to its staunchest ally will not be easily forgotten by many Canadians.

But it’s Trudeau’s job to get on with the president, or in this case the vice-president. Telling him how to run his own country is not part of that remit.

nationalpost.com/opinion/john-ivison-desperate-trudeau-antagonizes-pence-over-abortion-to-score-political-points




Aspiring Soviet DICTATORS like Our idiot Boy Justin..........................................................


simply CANNOT ENDURE "Competition" or comparison!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Soviet Asshats MUST ALWAYS HIDE the truth from their own restless subjects.................................


lest they become disenchanted with the Regime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


This is why Our idiot Boy and his LIE-beral losers keep on talking about our "booming economy" that is booming into RECORD DEBT



LEVELS even as our roads degenerate into pot holed tracks through the concrete canyons that an ever larger number of us are finding it hard to afford to live in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



The population is aging and health care has been RATIONED for many years now...................................


and the health demands are getting worse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Young people are forced to live with their parents into their 30`s.................................


due to HIGH student debt generated by price gouging TEACHERS.......................................


coupled with ERODED WAGES in our over taxed LIE-beral waste land!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals an their civil service union HOG allies sitt pretty on the GRAVY TRAIN and bemoan our "crappy doom and gloom" attitudes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Much like that French Queen who advised starving people with no bread to "eat cake" instead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Its too bad we do not use the guillotine in Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


How many people would BUY TICKETS to see Our idiot Boy trying to justify himself while standing in the shadow of the BLADE????
 

spilledthebeer

Executive Branch Member
Jan 26, 2017
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don't think Trudeau should have brought up the abortion thing. Not wise.... Smacks of meddling and interference........on a red zone topic. Pence is a religious nit .... and who knows how he will relate that to volatile crazy Trump




OH DEAR...............................have people FORGOTTEN



when LIE-beral Jean Chretien CARELESSLY told a Cdn



audience that his supporters LIKE IT when he smears Yankees??????????????????????


This is why we have tariffs and trade war now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals like Our idiot Boy,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


are no longer content to just sneer at Yankees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy is now DELIBERATELY UNDERMINING National Security in hope of HURTING YANKEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


This is why Our idiot Boy deliberately SCREWED UP NAFTA for us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The idiot Boy is playing a dangerous game in trying to stir up



HATE against Yankees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But Our idiot Boy SCREWED UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


His anti Yankee BIAS is exposed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And his irrational love affair with the Beijing Butchers is un-requitted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





Our idiot Boy NEEDS CHINA...............................................


to bad China DOES NOT NEED HM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy now has to deal with trade wars in BOTH Washington and Beijing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Hoid

Hall of Fame Member
Oct 15, 2017
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The liberal/conservative coin is worthless. This country requires a swift kick in the ass.