So Trudeau is a crook?

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With a dpa in place only the people who broke the law get punished.

It is used extensively in Canada and everywhere else on earth.
 

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But it will advance you in the eyes of the voting public. Much more so if you have a status card and looking to further your careeer in that direction.
Dog catcher on the Reserve in her riding will be her career.

The World Bank had use for the Canadian arm of an EU based company and when that was over they threw her under the bus by giving the RCMP the only tip that corruption was going on anywhere in the world. The tip was in 2011 and charges in 2015, 4 years to lobby that you could be guilty and stoll bid in important contracts.

How many international contracts in those 4 years, a lot more or a lot less?



https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/pm-spoke-wilson-raybould-snc-170050995.html
SNC-Lavalin lawyers rushed to prosecutors before MPs knew of proposed law change



https://www.theglobeandmail.com/new...-and-his-ties-to-gadhafis-son/article4202839/
SNC-Lavalin's man in Libya and his ties to Gadhafi's son

For years, whenever SNC-Lavalin Group Inc. had eyes on a major contract in Libya, it could count on one key executive to make it happen – Riadh Ben Aissa.
Mr. Ben Aissa played an invaluable role at the Montreal-based engineering firm, helping generate roughly $1-billion worth of work for SNC in Libya. He did it with an aggressive management style and a remarkably close relationship with Colonel Moammar Gadhafi's son Saadi. The two were so close that whenever Saadi needed cash for cars, trips or property, he sent a message to Mr. Ben Aissa and the money arrived. And when Saadi came to Toronto in 2008 to check out the film festival, take courses in English and engineering and party with rapper 50 Cent, SNC picked up part of the tab.
"When [Saadi]needed money, [Mr. Ben Aissa]was the one I spoke to," said Gary Peters, a Canadian security consultant who worked as a bodyguard for Saadi. Some of the payments went as high as $100,000, he added.
Mr. Ben Aissa's closeness to Saadi now appears to be working against him. SNC announced late Thursday that he was no longer employed by the firm. Another executive, Stephane Roy, also lost his job. The company declined comment other than to say in a press release that "questions regarding the conduct of SNC-Lavalin employees have recently been the focus of public attention. SNC-Lavalin reiterates that all employees must comply with our code of ethics and business conduct."
Mr. Ben Aissa is fighting back. He announced Friday that he plans to sue SNC over the dismissal and allege he has been libelled. In a press release, he added that he did not violate any company policies and had already resigned from SNC, although he did not say why.

The dismissal and potential lawsuit marks a bitter end to Mr. Ben Aissa's 27 years at SNC, where he won high praise and steady promotion largely for his work in Libya.
Documents obtained in Libya by The Globe and Mail indicate that Mr. Ben Aissa was born in Tunisia in 1958. He made his way to Canada to study at the University of Ottawa, graduating in 1985 with a master's degree in business administration. He joined SNC after graduation, working in strategic planning and development. He rose through the ranks quickly, eventually becoming senior vice-president of SNC-Lavalin International, which put him in charge of the company's operations in North Africa, including Libya.
It was an opportune time. By the late 1990s, Col. Gadhafi had renounced terrorism and rehabilitated Libya in the eyes of Western leaders. Sanctions fell and companies from around the world rushed to the desert dictatorship to get a piece of the action. Mr. Ben Aissa came too.
Within a few years, SNC started winning big contracts. They included $425-million for work on a massive water-diversion project, plus contracts to build a $500-million airport in Benghazi, a prison in Tripoli, as well as countless roads, bridges and housing developments. At one point, Mr. Ben Aissa said he had more than 10,000 people working for him. As a reward for his efforts, SNC made him an executive vice-president in 2007 and named him to the Office of the President, making him one of the company's top five executives. In 2010, he earned $1.74-million in total compensation.
The key to Mr. Ben Aissa's success in Libya was Saadi. The two formed a close bond that generated untold benefits for SNC and Saadi. Mr. Ben Aissa helped create the Libyan Corps of Engineers in 2008, a joint civilian-military venture headed by Saadi. The corps was subordinate to the Libyan military and received funding from the defence budget, although SNC has insisted none of its work involved weapons or combat.




http://www.dividendgangster.com/2017/02/24/snc-lavalin-snc-to-analysis/
Profitability and Stability

Beginning in F2013, SNC started reporting its revenue broken down between engineering revenue and capital investment Revenue. Except for F2009 and F2013, year over year (YoY) revenue growth has been positive, with the most recent year’s revenue coming in at +16% at over $9billion.

The share price has generally trended upwards over the past 10 years, with minor dips in F2008, F2012, and F2014:

The F2008 dip may be attributed to the Kerala Hyderoelectirc Dam Scandal, and the F2012 and F2014 dips may be attributed to the Libya business probe. Of course, this is speculation, but given the negative press it is a plausible explanation, especially since the underlying fundamentals relating to revenue remained consistently strong during that period.
 

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If the Liberals were smarter(!) they would have shut the feck up but they just can't get themselves past top-down, party discipline thuggery ... which is an extremely undemocratic way to conduct themselves in our system. Your local MP is supposed to be the fundamental unit of the Westminster style Parliament and this all-powerful rule from the Prime Minister's Office is a recent hijacking of a perfectly workable system that was developed by our ancestors. The wheels fell off, permanently, around the day that Justin's father imposed the War Measures Act in peacetime. Every PMO from that point on has gathered more and more political power around it until we have a Prime Minister dictator the beats down our elected MPs ...elected by us (we don't elect our PMs) so that they fall into line behind them.

We can start by removing party names from ballots. It would be a mostly symbolic move, but even symbols can have influence and it would be an easy fix.
 

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That's actually a good idea.

It would also avoid confusion. Some ignorants actualy believe that they vote for a party when in reality, they vote for a candidate. Removing party names from ballots would help to reduce that confusion.
 
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Ron in Regina

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With a dpa in place only the people who broke the law get punished.

It is used extensively in Canada and everywhere else on earth.


When applicable. How extensively is this Omnibus cling-on Bill C-76 which is only about 70 days old at this point (which only received accent Dec 18th,2018) been used?
 
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It would also avoid confusion. Some ignorants actualy believe that they vote for a party when in reality, they vote for a candidate. Removing party names from ballots would help to reduce that confusion.
Most people wouldn't know who any of the candidates are.Much less where they stand on any given subject. That's why in the latest money pit NDP referendum on PR the whole thing was geared towards "the Party". Even down to "the party" getting tax money based on how many votes they got.
 

White_Unifier

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Most people wouldn't know who any of the candidates are.Much less where they stand on any given subject. That's why in the latest money pit NDP referendum on PR the whole thing was geared towards "the Party". Even down to "the party" getting tax money based on how many votes they got.

If removing the party name prevents a person from voting, then good riddance.
 

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Wilson-raybould is the kind of candidate we should be voting for independently of her party association. She's the kind of person who should be able to run an election as an independent and win if the voters can recognize character when they see it.
I'm with you all the way. I largely despise political parties and the party system itself. I would gladly vote for any local independent who seems to possess integrity along with broad-based common sense. Unless some duplicity or ulterior motives surface, Jody WIlson-raybould seems to have these qualities in spades.
 

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"I already saw his reaction and he is a liar"


And a stupid liar at that, but what is worse is he thinks we are all as stupid as he is. Every time he was questioned about SNC he went into his general spiel to the effect that he and his staff have been working their butts for ALL Canadians blah, blah, blah, blah, but never addressing any questions directly. I suppose come October given the stupidity of those in his electorate he could emerge as the sole Liberal left standing or at worse one of a few Quebec Liberals left standing.
His stand-in Chagger - the Government's House Leader - is nothing more than a mouthpiece for her leader. Not once did she answer a question asked of her the other day during Question Period. Time after time, it was the same old ' our government is working hard blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It was sickening and painful at the same time. This level of discourse belongs in grade school not the House of Parliament. How that woman can live with herself is beyond me - but then.......she is a perfect example of liberal brainwashing.
 

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I'm still being sexist and stating this whole affair would not have occurred if a man had been in her position. Anyhoo...being a loud mouth sexist is fun sometimes! :)
 

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His stand-in Chagger - the Government's House Leader - is nothing more than a mouthpiece for her leader. Not once did she answer a question asked of her the other day during Question Period. Time after time, it was the same old ' our government is working hard blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It was sickening and painful at the same time. This level of discourse belongs in grade school not the House of Parliament. How that woman can live with herself is beyond me - but then.......she is a perfect example of liberal brainwashing.


Yep and if one is not careful about disparaging comments about her he/she could get accused of racism by some imbecile.
 

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Probably just reached the point where she couldn't stand the proximity to all the turkeys. I doubt if she's strapped for cash.
My guess is that she heard that now infamous blooper by the little potato - 'well she's still in cabinet' - or words to that effect. That pissed her off and she resigned. Maybe she was just looking for an excuse. She sure wasn't happy about being given the Vet Affairs portfolio - and made no bones about it. Not a good example of someone who professes to have such high principles.