Planet Earth: A Question Of Expansion

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Yup growing. About 100 tons per day falls to earth as meteorites and dust.

A whopping 1100 dump trucks per year.
See, you can be on topic and only 2 parts show you are a condescending prick at heart so there is hope for you after all, . . . cough.


I could ask where you came up with the numbers but I'm sure being the through scientist you aren't you took the weight of the earth and divided it by about 4.5B years, Right? Using the snowball earth graph it suggests the water we have came in a few 'waves' of pure snow as the heat from the planet being at 3500F on average tends to melt just about everything so even iron falls as rain rather than as a solid.

A snow storm will put out a fire that evaporates rain before it hits the ground, it melts from the stored heat inside the earth rather than the sun did the dirty deed, that also means that is where the first oceans were, where it escaped in steam vents was at the highest part of the crust and that is where the original sea life started, as the ice was evaporated into clouds again dry land began and with the rain so did the first plants right down to the lowest parts and then the snow came again but seeds can survive being frozen so the recovery was much faster. The graph also points to the south going through an ice-age while the north did not, that should be easy to prove/disprove. I don't see us being on that level really.
That is 'adding weight'.



The new land created in Hawaii is redistributing that weight. In your world of the crusting subducting as fast as the rifts expand you might run into a problem when it comes to lava and the gasses that come out as they would have to be replaced without the crust dipping down. In a ball that is connected when you take some liquid out and create a 'bump' that has to be replaced. and if it heats up and cools down at a rate that varies. When the core is as cold as outer space what will the dia. of the earth be?
 

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While all you can do is troll. You add nothing to the discussion in every thread you infect. You do not enter into conversation . You,re stuff
is like the scribbling on a breakfast cereal box.
I'm probably going to 'borrow' parts if your post from time to time. If it bothers you, sue me, the case should come to trial in 2119.
 

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Only on an internet forum, can you watch a few youtube videos and overnight become an "expert" in whatever field you desire...
Man.....you guys take yourselves way too seriously.....
Anytime you cover something new you end up having an opinion. You read fictional romance novels that is more than a few parts, I assume your summation would include a few things you read in the series.
I'm pretty sure somebody who watched the vid past the few seconds you admit to watching would end up with a better summation but you make it about you still being the only one that has an opinion worth voicing when the facts point to you being the one that should go into 'read-only' mode for the duration of the topic being talked about on any thread.
The books to the Indians just north of you are open, you claim to be smart, go find when they Indians stole all the money and spent it all and didn't leave a trace.


You are the one offering your opinion in places that you say you have no interest in and do it in a way that is never on topic. Why should you lack of social skills be picked on even it it means the collective you belong suffers the exposure a lot more than it affects you. It is your actions alone that determines how stupid you make the collective look in your insane support of the unsupportable. When the White Miners are donating living quarters for the whole village you know things under the Govt have to be insanely bad. That is criminal rather than a lack of social skills, why do you think so much effort goes into keeping it out of the news as much as possible.

You probably over-rate this place (and yourself of course) as being a fat conduit to the outside world. You are part of a group that is more isolated than the most remote Indian Village. Your crocodile tears don't impress me at all, I know the perfect way to make them go away, some real skin is the starting point.

Being as much of a Pilgrim as you are this is going to hurt, . . . once.
 

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There are some factors leading to the earth expansion, while other factors lead to its contraction.
Did the earth pull the moons metal core out and have it become part of the earth so 4BYA the moon was it its closest ever yet it was now increasing the gap rather than the gap closing. (assume a collision would cause a break that would see all the pieces end up in the sun rather than becoming two heavenly bodies again.)


That core would also have to descend to the earth's core so a few 'waves' might happen if Hudson Bay and the Gulf of Mexico would impact zones for the moons core coming in as two big blobs of liquid iron.


Water at -300F hitting lava at 3,000F would also cause a bit of 'frothing' on a liquid ball that has been sinning the same for a billion years and will do so for billions of years after before some crust remains floating and it grows as it cools more magma.
 

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Osiris, Jesus and Venus

Posted on December 30, 2018 by Louis Hissink
Various authors have noted a close parallel between the Osiris, Vedic and Christian cults, where each portrays a mother and a child, among other religious imageries.
Which makes me wonder whether these different cults focussed on the same physical event, the birth of Venus and the destruction of human civilisation during the 1st millennium, where the baby represents the birth of some cosmic prodigy, here Venus.
This interpretation is somewhat uber-Heinsohnian in that it further compresses the historical record by having the Vedic, Osiris and Roman cultures as contemporaries, and destroyed globally by the same cosmic agent.
I make two daring assumptions, the first based on the known clustering of radiometric dates as described by Briden and Gass, 1974, that 3 catastrophes occurred historically associated with exogenous agents, by which electric plasma forcings generated 3 distinct clusters of radiogenic deposits. The second is that known history of our era starts from the most recent “event”, here the Little Ice Age, before which history has simply been fabricateded by brain-addled, thought muddled monks and priests of the ruling elites who only saw what they believed.
One thing you will notice, the fewer quotes from the Bible the more they can write about what the 'hidden meanings' are. 30 days is as long as it should take to understand what the Bible promotes, if it takes longer than that you are being served, 'stuff', I have heard it you already know what that means.


If you collected all the lightening that happens in 1 day and made it into a single spark as it entered the iron core would it turn more of the liquid iron into gas?? Is that global warming 100,000 years in the future or does the heat rise up as soon as the hit is over and the charge still goes to the core but with not heat gain?


Can it even be proven that the charge we see coming from the clouds is coming back to earth and the sparks that go up are where the actual transition zone is and earth would be a battery that is running down more than it is charging up.

 

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Did the earth pull the moons metal core out and have it become part of the earth so 4BYA the moon was it its closest ever yet it was now increasing the gap rather than the gap closing. (assume a collision would cause a break that would see all the pieces end up in the sun rather than becoming two heavenly bodies again.)
The gravity of the hot earth pulls the cold moon, and keeps it in its distance from us (because of the Moon rotation around the earth.)
When the Moon was hotter, it was farther in distance from us .. then the Moon lost its heat more than the earth losing its heat, so it is logically the Moon has become relatively nearer to us than it had been before.
http://www.quran-ayat.com/universe/index.htm
quran-ayat.com/universe/index.htm
 

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Hot and cold do not change total weight or speed or direction. A heavy moon getting close could avoid a collision if she lost a lot of weight, dumping the core would do that and the earth would still go around the sun like always as the combined is still the same.



The core could not shift in a cold moon so the tidal lock could not have need established. It would not start up once the core was gone. Coming in at an angle and taking some time to get to the earth's core could be how our wobble was introduced.
 

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No, it let's them know somebody is at home. They are starting to as why so many people the Jews meet die of a combination of diseases though. You want to field the Black Death one?? (that would be pretty low by any standard, even Attila the Hun would give it the thumbs down.
 

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DB: I mentioned this series was going to be coming out, what do you think??
PART 1 OF 3 - The Electric Universe
 

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DB: I mentioned this series was going to be coming out, what do you think??
PART 1 OF 3 - The Electric Universe


I,ve already seen Wal Thornhill (physics) speak at the Bath conference. I have studied the electric universe for more than a decade Wal Thornhill is one of the founders of the Electric Universe,Thornhill spent a lot of time with Immanual Velikovsky who was without doubt one of the finest minds to have ever lived on this planet. Virtually the whole of frozen rusted academia,then and now, hates loaths and detests him and his science, but his theorys continue to be proven today. He was a man with enormous intellect and he has revolutionized History and Science. You would enjoy his first book, Worlds in Collision which follows the biblical stories very closely and very scientifically. There are no miracles but there is miraculous catastrophic history which describes the reformation of this solar system witnessed by the ancients and recorded in the various religious texts the world over.. If it were possible acadamia would have had him burnt at the stake and if they could I have no doubt they would dig up his corpse and burn that. He has contributed greatly to science and history and wqill not be forgotten. That book Worlds in Collision is probably the most powerful thing written in the twentieth century. Velikovsky was a polymath. I read two or more hours of plasma theory a day
 

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It's becoming more and more accepted that planet formation begins with chunks pulled together by static electricity rather than gravity.
 

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From physics.org

"There's a mystery in there," Prof. Johansen said. "If you look inside an asteroid, you do find millimetre-sized pebbles, which is fine. But the problem with those pebbles is they are not what we expect them to be. We would expect them to be fluffy dust aggregates, a bit like if you have a sandbox after it rains, and you can pick up a piece of dried out sand that is very fragile," he said.

Instead, the pebbles are spherical and hard, like they have been heated and cooled – similar to objects that have been struck by lightning.

"Lightning takes place as thunderclouds discharge their electric charge to the ground," said Prof. Johansen. "This discharge is very similar to the shock you experience from the static electricity when you put on a jumper."

Prof. Johansen theorised that there must be a mechanism during planet formation that creates positively and negatively charged particles, and he and his team investigated what that was.

"While a thundercloud obtains a charge difference between its top and bottom by falling hail particles, we found that in the protoplanetary disc the decay of a radioactive element called Aluminium-26 is very efficient at charging dust clouds," he said.

https://phys.org/news/2018-09-pebbles-planets-insight-birth-solar.html
 

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Birkeland Currents and Our Electric Solar System | Space News

In this series, we have reported on the increasing frequency with which astrophysical literature acknowledge a fact which was long verboten in the space-sciences: the existence of electric currents that flow through the so-called vacuum of space. At the vastest cosmic scales, many astrophysicists recognize the “fundamentally electromagnetic structure” of …


Dark Matter? No. Birkeland Currents? Yes! | Space News

In our previous episode, we introduced a potential scientific breakthrough that could have profound implications for all of cosmology, eliminating the perceived need for dark matter. In a new scientific paper entitled Birkeland Currents and Dark Matter, scheduled for publication in April of this year, Dr. Donald E. Scott proposes …
 

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Saturn theory characteristics

Sun-like Saturn, and nova-like

A number of researchers have suggested that in mythology, Saturn is sometimes referred to as a night sun, and having gone through a nova-like phase:
(1944) C. E. R. Bruce wrote:
“In fact it may well be that both Jupiter and Saturn were at one time minor stars and that their satellite systems were formed as the result of minor or planetary nova outbursts.”[1]
(1973) William Mullen wrote:
“Velikovsky has suggested that as a result of disruption Saturn went through a short nova-like phase in which its light would have obscured everything else visible from earth ..”[2]
(1975) Lewis M. Greenberg and Warner B. Sizemore wrote:
“.. the planet Saturn was designated as Shamash or “sun” by the Assyro-Babylonian astrologers; and as far back as 1910 M. Jastrow (Revue d’Assyriologie, Vol. 70, p. 171)[3] proposed “the idea that Saturn was a ‘steady’ or ‘permanent’ mock-sun – performing the same function of furnishing light at night that Sama’s – the Sun performed during the day. .. Furthermore, there is undeniable evidence that the concept of a “night-sun” as well as a “day-sun” existed in ancient Babylonian astrological thought.”[4]
(1977) Dwardu Cardona wrote:
“Diodorus Siculus was not the only writer of antiquity who stated that the Babylonians called Saturn the “sun star.”(19) Hyginus also expressed his opinion that Saturn was called “the star of the sun.(20) Among modern Assyriologists, it seems as if Thompson was one of the first to notice that the Babylonians designated the planet Saturn as Shamash.(21) Yet Shamash, as a cursory glance through any work on Assyro-Babylonian mythology will show, was, very much like the Egyptian Ra, the usual Babylonian name for the Sun.”[5]
(1979) Immanuel Velikovsky wrote:
“My conclusion that, as a result of its interplay with Jupiter, Saturn became a nova,(7) I found confirmed in many ancient sources, in which Saturn is regularly associated with brilliant light; but I was led to this idea first of all by a certain clue contained in the Biblical account of the Deluge.”[6]

 

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It's becoming more and more accepted that planet formation begins with chunks pulled together by static electricity rather than gravity.
We already covered that topic a few threads back. The size of the spark the metal core and whatever was acting as it's atmosphere was where we left off.

Any links or do you need something published first??
What weight would earth have to be to attract ice (that is heading straight for the Sun) that didn't have some iron mixed in? 80%


1,460,00,000,000,000 tons is the mass gained in 4B years @ 100 tons/day. Still want to say it is nothing??