Won't need luck. The Pagan/Heathen population in Canada is large and (not including first nations) goes back to preconfederation times. Our deities and spirits are referred to using symbolic metaphors, but also have an underlying reality which is far more tangible and alive than anything imposed on the credulous by violently delusional Abrahamic fanatics.
Let's Bring Back the Old Gods!
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Won't need luck. The Pagan/Heathen population in Canada is large and (not including first nations) goes back to preconfederation times. Our deities and spirits are referred to using symbolic metaphors, but also have an underlying reality which is far more tangible and alive than anything imposed on the credulous by violently delusional Abrahamic fanatics.
The sun and the so-called "Venus of Willendorf" are still part of Heathen religion today. In fact both were celebrated on Modranicht just over a month ago on the solstice.
Allah Ackbar. Moses. Abraham. Oden. Thor. Frej. Christ. The Lord. Buddha. Numbers are ninth former God's in old Testament writter. But I am only an atheist with believing on cigarette and eating and struggling in self-employer from my city and drinking coffee still.
The list is pretty long and I'm not sure they would be the builders of all the megaliths around the globe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mesopotamian_deities
The oldest God is the one in Ge:1:1. This is His son's version of 'the past'.
Proverb:8:22-36:
The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way,
before his works of old.
I was set up from everlasting,
from the beginning,
or ever the earth was.
When there were no depths,
I was brought forth;
when there were no fountains abounding with water.
Before the mountains were settled,
before the hills was I brought forth:
While as yet he had not made the earth,
nor the fields,
nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
When he prepared the heavens,
I was there:
when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
When he established the clouds above:
when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
When he gave to the sea his decree,
that the waters should not pass his commandment:
when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
Then I was by him,
as one brought up with him:
and I was daily his delight,
rejoicing always before him;
Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth;
and my delights were with the sons of men.
Now therefore hearken unto me,
O ye children:
for blessed are they that keep my ways.
Hear instruction,
and be wise,
and refuse it not.
Blessed is the man that heareth me,
watching daily at my gates,
waiting at the posts of my doors.
For whoso findeth me findeth life,
and shall obtain favour of the LORD.
But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul:
all they that hate me love death.
Angels have seen how the universe was created, that makes them about 40B years old as that is when matter began to clump together, Adam saw the garden starting 400,000BC. Mankind is destined to gain the same knowledge.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mesopotamian_deities
The oldest God is the one in Ge:1:1. This is His son's version of 'the past'.
Proverb:8:22-36:
The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way,
before his works of old.
I was set up from everlasting,
from the beginning,
or ever the earth was.
When there were no depths,
I was brought forth;
when there were no fountains abounding with water.
Before the mountains were settled,
before the hills was I brought forth:
While as yet he had not made the earth,
nor the fields,
nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
When he prepared the heavens,
I was there:
when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
When he established the clouds above:
when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
When he gave to the sea his decree,
that the waters should not pass his commandment:
when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
Then I was by him,
as one brought up with him:
and I was daily his delight,
rejoicing always before him;
Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth;
and my delights were with the sons of men.
Now therefore hearken unto me,
O ye children:
for blessed are they that keep my ways.
Hear instruction,
and be wise,
and refuse it not.
Blessed is the man that heareth me,
watching daily at my gates,
waiting at the posts of my doors.
For whoso findeth me findeth life,
and shall obtain favour of the LORD.
But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul:
all they that hate me love death.
Angels have seen how the universe was created, that makes them about 40B years old as that is when matter began to clump together, Adam saw the garden starting 400,000BC. Mankind is destined to gain the same knowledge.
I'll bet that the oldest God looked like an Aurochs (see: Silutrian cave paintings) and was later named Baal in the Fertile Crescent.
6 fingered femals tended to be on the fat side, 5 fingered men still lined up in front of their footstools. I can see what angels preferred 'daughters of Eve ' really.
The list is pretty long and I'm not sure they would be the builders of all the megaliths around the globe.
There is no evidence that this universe was created 40 billion years ago or twenty nor ten even and there is no clumping together under gravitational accretion. There is no scientific explanation for the process called called gravity without the electromagnetic medium, none whatsoever.
Matter does not just start to clump together and furthermore there is as much dissassociation of matter as there is association ongoing in the visable universe. Occording to the old guys who bothered to comment at all about the age and origin of the universe for the most part they assumed it was without beginning, always was and always will be.
We could just as reliably have said that the universe was 27.2 billion years old or 15 .5 or 107.8 or seventeen billion years of age and been consistantly wrong with every bit of rank speculation on the age of an as yet undefined thingy of which there is no evident edge nor center.22.4, 6.5, 11and three quarters, eight and a harf
52,11/16ths
That is Sumeria, probably 'Summeria; is it would be perpetual summer in an natural fashion during a full on ice-age.
The standards are the same for the oldest works. I din;t see monkeys doing any of this really.
Perhaps 'beyond the pillars' means entering the Med Sea rather than leaving it, back when it was 400ft lower than the waterline it has today.
So . . . what has that to with a theoretical discussion? If the past bothers you what will the future along that same timeline do yo you??
So saith the balloon to the wall.
The common part it is 'older than anyone that has been alive'.We could just as reliably have said that the universe was 27.2 billion years old or 15 .5 or 107.8 or seventeen billion years of age and been consistantly wrong with every bit of rank speculation on the age of an as yet undefined thingy of which there is no evident edge nor center.22.4, 6.5, 11and three quarters, eight and a harf52,11/16ths
Stop whineing I,m not disagreeing with you excepting the numbers of years. I wonder if you,ve considered how long was these years you,ve used. Forty billion years of no fixed days or months is not very accurate guessing? How how many hours long were those days? How many months in the years?Who or what was counting?Which way was up?