Trickle of Illegal Immigrants into Canada Could Become Deluge in the Spring

Twin_Moose

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It depends on who's law was applied. My Huegenot ancestors that escaped death in France would have left from there illegally. My Anabaptist refugee ancestors who came here in 1702 to escape death in Europe were certainly "illegals to be killed on sight" in any Catholic land. My Jacobite Scots were "ethnically cleansed" and my family were specifically allied with the Stewarts and therefore were banished for their politics. My United Empire Loyalist ancestors were illegals in the new United States republic and therefore headed North as refugees (surviving considerable privation on the way). One of the two sets (from Pennsylvania .. the others from New York) started from scratch clearing the virgin wilderness twice in three generation.

They were all illegals. The Crown took them in, here but every group were considered criminal illegals to be put to the sword by somebody.

How about your people, pigs? Did they chuf-chuff out west in a Tin Lizzie and declare that THEY were entitled but no one else is?

I think the question was did they enter Canada illegally?
 

Curious Cdn

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Fake hooman... or should I say hoomanoid


(*snicker*)

I raise you one *snicker* and add a [salty!]

I think the question was did they enter Canada illegally?

Canada didn't exist, back then. The UELs arguably were illegal at first before the Crown had time to react and provide for them. There was considerable starvation and the Loyalists wre initially "held" in camps at the border.
 

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Ever heard of the UELs? the "Late Loyalists", the Underground Railway? Vietnam War Evaders? The current crop who have had their stay rescinded by the US?

Nigerians have had their stay rescinded?

Oh I forgot, you put your head in the sand on such things.

Many, many.... I count four.

Canada didn't exist, back then. The UELs arguably were illegal at first before the Crown had time to react and provide for them. There was considerable starvation and the Loyalists wre initially "held" in camps at the border.


So what you're saying is.... you can't keep your story straight.

You're Fake History.

*snicker*
 

Twin_Moose

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I raise you one *snicker* and add a [salty!]



Canada didn't exist, back then. The UELs arguably were illegal at first before the Crown had time to react and provide for them. There was considerable starvation and the Loyalists wre initially "held" in camps at the border.

So they came in through proper channels same as my ancestors
 

Curious Cdn

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So they came in through proper channels same as my ancestors

"Proper channels" did not exist in the 18th century, no matter how you convolute history.

By the way, I'm not in favour of illegal immigration but I don't automstically equate real refugees with "illegal". Some of them are desparate, persecuted people genuinely afraid for their lives. We have room for those ... maybe not in Wetaskiwin.
 
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I never would have thought Cliffy supported the Spanish Conquests of Mexico and Central America and their rights to claim the South West U.S over the indigenous Native Americans.

But then again Cliffy denies science and believes that humans evolved in the Americas.
If Cliffy isn't in his right mind then perhaps that also applies to this as well and that you agree simply means you are as insane as he is rather than this one agreement is his one sliver of sanity.

I phoned Vegas to get the odds, all I can hear is laughter, I wonder what happened?

"Proper channels" did not exist in the 18th century, no matter how you convolute history.
The rich got seats and food, the others got a lump on the head and steel bracelets and all the rats they can eat. Which group you want to tackle first. The Royals that were criminals has the most drama but after the opening chapter it is just the EU history repeated at a bloodier level.
 

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THE NUMBER AND RANGE OF LIES TOLD BY LIE-BERALS REGARDING THEIR IMMIGRATION POLICY AND FUTURE INTENTIONS INDICATE CLEARLY THAT OUR GOOD WILL AND CHARITABLE IMPULSES ARE BEING ABUSED BY CYNICAL LIE-BERALS SEEKING TO CLING TO POWER AT ANY PRICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


CONSIDER:






We have a little over a year till the next federal election so lets play a little guessing game! Lets try to guess what grand new promises and outrageous LIES Lie-berals will offer up for their next election platform!

Will we have lower taxes? NOPE! Federal LIE-berals offered us that last time and then RAISED our taxes by nearly $2 grand per family - thus far! Plus they borrowed huge new gobs of gravy for their pals- that we must pay back!

In addition LIE-berals are facing huge demands for new money to give to the swarming tens of thousands of illegals that have come here at LIE-beral invitation so LIE-berals are facing vast new spending pressures in the billions of dollars for their rash invitation to the illegals of the world!

LIE-berals also face new restrictions on revenue as they struggle to deal with the trade war that Our idiot Boy Justin has picked with Yankees! The cupboard is bare and major new borrowing is NOT really possible as we are up against the debt wall and our Yankee creditors are not happy with our idiot spending! It is all very well to thank Canada for sending Yankees some fine entertainers but it does nothing to erase the trade war and national security issues LIE-berals have created!

Can LIE-berals offer better health care? NOPE! Health care is a provincial problem and Ontari-owe is firmly in the hands of Conservatives under Doug Ford. The last time we had this situation- with Mike Harris as premier and LIE-beral Jean Chretien as PM - Chretien got so upset at Harris popularity that he GUTTED federal funding transfers to Ontari-owe! Federal funding for health care DROPPED from 57 percent of the total spent down to 17 percent of the total! If LIE-berals run true to pattern we can expect a MAJOR DROP in health care quality over the next few years as LI-berals fiscally punish Ontari-owe for electing Doug Ford instead of Wynne-bag!

Can we expect more jobs or better jobs? NOPE! In the last election Our idiot Boy Justin told us he intended to create lots of good jobs for kids! Sadly- after the election was won- and reality set in- LIE-berals told our kids they had better adjust to being poor and semi employed! As things stand now- Our idiot Boy is focussed on trying to save some of the thousands of jobs that will be LOST if he allows his trade war to continue for some months! The kids are NOW FORGOTTEN!

Can we expect greater racial harmony in future? NOPE! LIE-berals are going out of their way to divide and conquer the various racial groups in our society! Any farmer living on an isolated road near a native reserve will have stories to tell of drunken and drugged up thieves from the reserve brazenly prowling in broad day light seeking stuff to steal and sell for drugs and alcohol! Our idiot Boy thinks the best way to handle this mess is to RIG our jury system to provide MORE excuses for thieves like Coulton Boushie!

Our idiot Boy is also encouraging other races to bitch as well! LIE-berals think it is unfair to jail so many non whites- without bothering to admit that blacks are disproportionate creators of crime thanks to their belief that getting a good education means selling out to white society! And it does not help that there are so few jobs thanks to mad LIE-beral taxes!

The same LIE-beral logic applies to natives- in spite of the statistics that prove natives PREFER JAIL to paying a fine! Yes- if given a choice they will go to jail rather than pay a fine- while the OPPOSITE is true of white criminals- whites pay up and stay out of jail! Somehow- under LIE-beral guidance- this has become bigotry and “white privilege”!

Can we expect a brave new LIE-beral effort to reduce homelessness in Canada? NOPE! LIE-berals are far to busy trying to LIE about the actual number of illegals who have come here to worry about our existing collection of helpless senior citizens and drug addicts and crazy people!

LIE-beral logic is so distorted they think it is unfair to force treatment on sufferers of schizophrenia even though lack of treatment is likely to result in the sufferer being shot by cops- that LIE-berals then quickly accuse of being trigger happy and bigoted- even as LIE-berals DEPRIVE cops of effective tools such as tazers and bean bag guns to knock down and disarm crazy people with weapons!

In addition- LIE-berals are wracking their brains to come up with some way of repairing the not so affordable housing that many Cdns live in! City of Toronto has just demolished over 150 town houses that were too rotten to save- with even more of the affordable stock in the same parlous state! LIE-berals are not keeping up with existing problems much less dealing with the new ones their failed policies are creating!

Besides- a prolonged trade war with Yankees will stress our economy to the point that sober, serious and reliable people will be in desperate need of aid- there will be nothing left over for drug addicts and illegals- nor anything for our poverty stricken basement dwelling kids either!

Can we expect greater national security and better defence against terrorists? NOPE! LIE-berals imported 50,000 mostly Syrian Muslim refugees in 2016 - with the security checks being incredibly LAX! The Muslim refugees were selected from camps run by terror group HAMAS! With HAMAS OFFICIALS doing the vouching for those refugees LIE-berals were interested in selecting! That Hamas holds radical Muslim values and is know for its bitter hate of western values might have deterred sensible people - but LIE-berals operate on blind ideology so letting Hamas have temporary control of a portion of our immigration system should turn out fine? We hope?

And can we hope that there will actually be a reduction in crime rates in future? NOPE! The latest news out of California is that crime is UP significantly due to that state reducing criminal sentencing and punishment! LIE-berals think that showing charity to thugs will win them votes among bigots at Black Lives Matter and among native radicals and among various white social justice warriors who never saw a problem that could not be blamed on white people! Cynics who point to the recent California experience with lower levels of punishment and resulting higher crime rates will be IGNORED by LIE-berals!

Can we hope for better environmental protections? NOPE! LIE-beral policy is spinning in circles like turds in a flushed toilet on the environment! LIE-berals have told us they want to shut down the ENTIRE Cdn oil patch and make Canada FREE of carbon fuel- and also that the Kinder Morgan pipeline and the resulting large scale export of Cdn fossil fuel to world markets is a vital national benefit!

So the entire world is entitled to buy Cdn fosil fuel but any Cdn who wants to use it for themselves is designated as an environmental criminal by LIE-berals! Naturally there will be exceptions to that LIE-beral label! Civil service union Hogs jetting off to Florida for a round of golf are good for the economy at least? Hogs ripping about on sea doos and atv`s and massive gas guzzling motor homes and huge cabin cruisers so large that teens can SURF on the waves they create are also a good thing in LIE-beral land! But some waitress who insists on driving her car home from her late shift because she does not feel safe on the street thanks to LIE-beral hug a thug judges is an ENVIRONMENTAL CRIMINAL!

Apparently there is NO reason for LIE-beral policy to be logical?

Will LIE-berals act to mend fences with Yankees and our NATO allies? NOPE! The flagship of the Cdn fleet is the destroyer HMCS Athabasca- and when the Russians began meddling in Crimea- Athabasca was sent to join a NATO fleet in Black Sea. Athabasca got half way across the Atlantic Ocean before major engine fires forced the navy to tow the ship home for repairs! After substantial work- Athabasca set out again- and suffered more crippling engine fires with another tow home required. So govt chose to send the ancient ship on a good will tour of the Carribean Sea- surely the ship could tolerate the calm tropical seas and sunny weather? NOPE! ANOTHER major engine fire and the flagship of the Cdn navy was towed back to port yet again- and WILL NEVER LEAVE HOME AGAIN- except to the wreckers yard!

And yes- Canadian navy DOES have other ships- local coastal patrol vessels that LACK the sophisticated air defences necessary to head out into deep water within range of enemy aircraft!

And yes- there ARE other ships on order- with the first of them at least FIVE YEARS BEHIND production schedule and who knows when the rest will be completed? LIE-berals certainly have NO CLUE- and do not care to seek one either! Cdn defence spending is at record low levels thanks to LIE-berals with their massive deficits and debts!

And closer to home- we have offended our Yankee neighebours by taking in all those illegals- without bothering to find out who they are or what kind of security risk they represent! Haitians do not seem to be smart enough to commit elaborate credit card scams- but the more recent Nigerian arrivals are NOTORIOUS for their online scams! Washington has been angry for years at the number of scams being run out of Canada and targeting Yankees! Washington DOES NOT want to see MORE such people set up in Canada and use it as a hide out while preying across the border upon Yankee citizens!

Even worse- Yankees are struggling to be world police man and to maintain some sort of order so we do not go down the same road to war as in the Dirty Thirties- and Yankees think it is very rude of Cdn LIE- berals to hide behind Uncle Sam when necessary and to SNEER at Uncle Sam when convenient- hence the Yankee reluctance to jump forward and volunteer to save Canada from an incoming North Korean missile strike!

But LIE-berals could care less what Yankees are worried about so there will be NO softening in relations! In fact I venture to guess it will be newly elected Conservative prime minister Scheer in 2019 who will be in charge of repairing relations and ending the trade war!
 

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She is a racist. She belongs to one of those anti-immigrant Quebec nationalist organizations.

Is it closer to being immoral to hold a racist view or have political goons assault an elderly citizen 'protected' by charter rights. Trudough can't be bothered with pesky inconvient rights granted to his subjects 'how dare they question me'.
 

Decapoda

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She is a racist. She belongs to one of those anti-immigrant Quebec nationalist organizations.

Are you implying that Trudeau knew her history before calling her a racist? How would he know this...unless you are saying that this was somehow all a PR setup by Trudeau? Or maybe Trudeau can see peoples activist history simply by looking into their eyes? You think lil potato is a savant?

Or maybe you're simply using her baggage to push your narrative that anyone who asks the question about who is going to pay for Trudeau's illegal border crossers is a racist.
 

Bar Sinister

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Are you implying that Trudeau knew her history before calling her a racist? How would he know this...unless you are saying that this was somehow all a PR setup by Trudeau? Or maybe Trudeau can see peoples activist history simply by looking into their eyes? You think lil potato is a savant?

Or maybe you're simply using her baggage to push your narrative that anyone who asks the question about who is going to pay for Trudeau's illegal border crossers is a racist.




I am guessing from the blather she was spouting Trudeau may have figured it out. In any case I could care less that a racist is called a racist.
 

Decapoda

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I am guessing from the blather she was spouting Trudeau may have figured it out. In any case I could care less that a racist is called a racist.

It does appear that Trudeau's intolerant attitude may have coincidently found the mark in this case. I wouldn't be giving him too much credit however, it seems to simply be a case of intolerance stumbling across intolerance. Even a busted clock is right twice a day.

Interesting though, was Trudeau able or willing to offer an answer to the legitimate question regarding who's paying the 164 million dollar bill for his stupidity in inviting the world to treat our border as a doormat? No??

Yeah...figures.
 

spilledthebeer

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It does appear that Trudeau's intolerant attitude may have coincidently found the mark in this case. I wouldn't be giving him too much credit however, it seems to simply be a case of intolerance stumbling across intolerance. Even a busted clock is right twice a day.

Interesting though, was Trudeau able or willing to offer an answer to the legitimate question regarding who's paying the 164 million dollar bill for his stupidity in inviting the world to treat our border as a doormat? No??

Yeah...figures.


The question is the key!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The Quebec govt has already asked to be reimbursed for the money they were FORCED to spend on illegals that ONLY FEDERAL LIE-berals WANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And the Ontari-owe govt has already asked to be reimbursed for the money they have been forced to spend on illegals that only FEDERAL LIE-BERALS WANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is a legitimate question and LIE-berals are dancing around it like their shoes were on fire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I remind LIE-berals of this article that reveals just how thoroughly LIE-beral friendly news media such as CBC DELIBERATELY CENSORS any view hostile to LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!


Here is an older article illustrating civil service union Hog greed and just how much support they are prepared to give to LIE-berals in exchange for gravy. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Hubert Lacroix, the president of the CBC, recently placed the future of the Canada’s national public broadcaster on the electoral map with comments aimed at sparking a renewed debate on future funding models. Lacroix disputed claims that low ratings are to blame for the CBC’s financial struggles, instead pointing to the need to consider alternative fee schemes, including new levies on Internet providers or supplementary charges on television purchases.

(So greedy CBC Hogs want to pick the pockets of other businesses in order to salvage their own suddenly shaky place on the LIE-beral gravy train! Why should internet providers be made to pay because their viewers and users have chosen to TURN OFF CBC tv and radio? And considering how widely and rapidly the CBC article mocking the LIE-beral MyDemocracy website as “a box of doughnuts” circulated- it is entirely CLEAR that Cdns will listen to CBC IF it ever finds anything else relevant to say! And that is the trouble- CBC is so busy spouting LIE-beral propaganda that it as NOTHING REAL to say!)

While disagreement over CBC funding is as old as the broadcaster itself, the more uncomfortable discussion for the CBC is its coverage of the 2015 election campaign — particularly its approach to national debates and political party advertising — which raises troubling questions about its relevance in the current media environment.

(Meaning the 2015 federal election that brought Our idiot Boy Justin to power- which featured regular media efforts to smear Conservatives and aid Our idiot Boy and his moronic minons!)

Most would agree that the CBC features an excellent group of reporters and boasts insightful analysts for its panel discussions. However, rather than working to make itself an invaluable resource for the election, the CBC has been unnecessarily restrictive in its broadcasting choices and in the use of its content.

The problem is obvious- CBC DOES NOT WANT informed voters- it wants LIE-beral voters! It jumped on the MyDemocracy website as a one off chance to temporarily show its faux impartiality- about a subject that other media was so scornful of that CBC felt compelled to jump on the band wagon in an effort to cover its own ass!)

The most puzzling decision has been its refusal to broadcast debates hosted by other organizations. The CBC may be disappointed with the debate approach adopted by the political parties in this campaign, but that does not change the sense that if the national public broadcaster does not air programs in the national public interest, it calls into question the very need for a public broadcaster. Indeed, the CBC seems to have cut its nose off to spite its face by doing its best to prove its critics right.

(CBC is being typically Hoggish in refusing to accept debate programing that it did not produce and does not approve of because it does not contain LIE-beral bias! LIE-berals consider suitable debate to be a series of easy questions lobbed gently at them so they can knock it out of the park! Real debate with actually facts is something LIE-berals increasingly SHUN! CBC recognizes- as all Hogs do- that LIE-beral victory- meaning MORE GRAVY- is also a win for CBC- thus CBC DOES NOT WANT any critical examination of LIE-beral policy- for fear of discovering the ROT at its heart!)

The CBC’s odd coverage choices are not limited to the missing debates. Its use of video clips from the debates has also been unnecessarily restrictive. For example, before analyzing the recent Munk debates on the “At Issue” panel, host Peter Mansbridge warned viewers that “we are limited with the excerpts with the amount we are allowed to show.” A similar warning preceded the discussion at other debates.

Yet the reality is that there was no need to be restrictive in the use of video clips. Canadian copyright law permits the use of copyrighted works without permission as part of the fair dealing clause. News reporting is one of the enumerated purposes and even expanded clips would easily qualify under a fair dealing analysis.

(So CBC lied about its policy of deliberately limiting public debate!)

(HEY THERE JAMES BONDO- I DO HOPE YOU HAVE READ AND UNDERSTOOD about using news clips and such AS THIS DOES MAKE YOU LOOK A FOOL!!!!! And it works for print media as well so long as the real author is given full credit as I always DO! And there is a further issue I am careful with- and that is NOT to put words into the mouth of another writer- it is for this reason that I always make it known that my comments are in brackets when I add words to an article!)

All news organizations are free to use as much of the video from debates as necessary to highlight key moments and positions of each leader. To suggest that the law creates significant limits on the ability to show debate clips is inaccurate.

In fact, the CBC’s misreading of the law is not limited to the use of clips within its news broadcasts.

Just prior to the election call, it asked YouTube and Facebook to remove a Conservative campaign advertisement that used clips from a CBC interview with Liberal leader Justin Trudeau. To support its takedown claim, the CBC argued that “no one – no individual candidate or political party, and no government, corporation or NGO – may re-use our creative and copyrighted property without our permission. This includes our brands, our talent and our content.”

That too is wrong.

(OH? MORE CBC/LIE-beral censorship and deliberate mis-representation of law and facts? And it relates to CBC being wrong about its crap on a paying site! Copyright law covering political comment on a FREE/NON profit site like this is even LOOSER! You have made yourself look foolish as usual!)

The law features important limitations on the rights of all copyright holders and all media organizations regularly rely on them in their reporting. The limits of copyright extend to campaign commercials and there is little that the CBC- or anyone else- can do about it.

With its rejection of the national debates, its limited use of debate clips and its attempts to limit re-use of its broadcast content, Canada’s national public broadcaster has marginalized itself during the election campaign at the very time that it could be demonstrating its relevance to the national political coverage.

(Worse- CBC has been caught deliberately trying to stack voter choice! Just as Our idiot Boy is trying to take over and paralyze our parliament with his idiot electoral reform!)

Michael Geist holds the Canada Research Chair in Internet and E-commerce Law at the University of Ottawa, Faculty of Law.

(Geist has done us a favour by illustrating the ugly bias that CBC is trying to hide!)

A Liberal Racist calling other people racists... that's the Alt-Left for you.


That policy worked for Adolf Hitler- telling the German people those nasty Poles needed to be taught a lesson!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy Justin apparently follows the Nazi advice: "that if if you are going to lie, then tell big ones because people find them easier to believe"!


Of course Hitler ended up getting booted from office as will Our idiot Boy!!!!!!!!!!!


Though- truth be told- the Trudeau clan is more oriented towards Stalinist economics than German national socialism!