Ford government creates its own fake news network (Ontario News Now)

10larry

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Whats the prob liberals enjoy/ed tax payer funded propaganda for years on cbc, torstar too but it's their dime they invest in lib bs.
 

justducky

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Whats the prob liberals enjoy/ed tax payer funded propaganda for years on cbc, torstar too but it's their dime they invest in lib bs.
Was the Toronto Star funded by the public? The CBC represented all canadian views until conservatives in North America decided the enlightenment and civil rights was bad for them and they had no chance of winning their objectives if people could think. The CBC is the reason why union participation is still around 30% in canada while it has totally collapsed in the usa. The number of new immigrants i've met who love the cbc and make a point of listening to it is a wonderful thing for civic society and diversity and bodes well for the future of the country. The right has not yet destroyed the word 'liberal' in canada so good luck with that.

Whats the prob liberals enjoy/ed tax payer funded propaganda for years on cbc, torstar too but it's their dime they invest in lib bs.
We argue that all the difficulties this concept has encountered in economics are due to a vague and excessively broad*definition. For this reason, we restrict social*capital*to the set of values and beliefs that help cooperation—which for clarity we label*civic capital.

https://www.google.com/search?ei=vi.........0....1.........0i71j0i22i30.GWFGwduuoto

When conservatives get into power they have to turn people against each other to get there. The South in the usa traditionally does not have the civic capital of the North. Poor countries and failed democracies do not have the civic capital of the greatest democracies. I for one want people who immigrate to Canada to have a place to go and learn our values. Doug Ford just wants to microtarget new Canadians of conservative cultures to hold demonstrations where they cry tears of fear because of refugees being settled in their city. That is who you are! That is who you are!
 

Jinentonix

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I know that you're not the brightest but try to follow.

You have the sixth largest government in Canada represented by 44 elected councellors making decisions on behalf of the citizens of the city. Along comes a Tamany Hall Fatcat from the outside who banishes half of the local representatives ... by decree, not consulting a single soul because he has scores to settle ... and you have only 22 people, friendly to the Fat-cat, now making the decisions for THE SIXTH LARGEST GOVERNMENT IN CANADA.

Could you imagine what would happen in Libetarian, tough guy Alberta if the Feds suddenly decreed without consultation that Alberta can only have 25 members of her Provincial Parlianent because we need to beat back big government? Not only that, make sure that the ridings with representation are friendly to the Federal Prime Minister who made the decree to get even with Albertans that he doesn't like? What do you think will happen?

Forcing a government that disburses more money than most provinces do into being run by less that two dozen carefully chosen buddies, is big, corrupt, Tanany Hall government at it's worst. If you were a real Conservative, you would get that. If you are merely part of the current crop of Trump-me-too-Neo-Nazis you will never get it because it far surpasses your intellectual capacities. You obviously don't have any use for democracy on the local level, which is the foundation cornerstone of North American democracy going right back to the beginning.
Oh piss off. It's the SEVENTH LARGEST GOVT IN CANADA because it wants to be, not because it needs to be. Funny how the City Council can grow in size without so much as a nod towards the democratic process, but suddenly it's anti-democratic to reduce the size without so much as a nod towards the democratic process? F*cking spare me.

And size has noting to do with it. In fact, the reduction will put it at the about the same ratio as the federal govt. There's one MP/107,000 people. If Toronto expands to 47 councilors that will be a ratio of one councilor/ 59,000 people. Are you suggesting that the population of Toronto needs more comprehensive representation than the goddam country does?
 

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Mark Towhey once told Maclean’s magazine an anecdote about how his former boss, the late Toronto mayor Rob Ford, approached the job: “He’d been working as the mayor’s chief for several months,” the 2013 magazine story said, “and was frustrated by his inability to divert Ford’s attention from the dozens of phone messages that pour into the mayor’s office each day. ‘All he wants to know is whether a phone call got returned,’ recalls Towhey, ‘and I’m saying, “Rob, we’ve got more important things.”’ But Towhey had hardly finished his sentence when Ford blew his stack. ‘This is a woman who has no water in her house!’ he shouted. ‘There’s nothing more important! Nothing!’”

It’s a lesson, it seems to me, his big brother, Premier Doug Ford, seems to have forgotten in 2018. Doug’s plan to slash the size of council — hastily implemented in the middle of an election campaign, seemingly with no planning or thought at all — has the effect of ignoring the idea that councillors should personally serve and represent their constituents.

There’s no doubt a smaller council could operate more quickly: fewer people means fewer disagreements and fewer speeches. The quickest and most efficient decision-making body would consist of a single person just bellowing orders. But that isn’t how our system is supposed to work, for good reason, and making big decisions quickly and with minimal debate isn’t the only, or even the main job of a city councillor.

I have mentioned it before, and so have our Star fact-checking explainers, but I think it bears repeating that almost every example advocates of a smaller council use to justify the decision point to is actually an example of a much larger elected government than Toronto’s. London, Los Angeles and New York have smaller city councils proportionate to their population, we’re told. But all three of those cities have another entire level of elected government operating under that city council: neighbourhood councils, borough councils, community boards. Whatever they are called, in each case they consist of hundreds or thousands of additional politicians elected to run those cities.

In those places, clearly, the logic is that big citywide decisions about highways and transit and sometimes policing should be made by a manageably sized group of people led by the mayor. But in those places, there’s also a recognition that small local concerns need to be dealt with in detail by local groups accountable directly to their neighbours.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.the...01/what-would-rob-ford-have-made-of-this.html
 

Danbones

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So MF, when are you going to apply for a fakenews job there? It sounds like it's right up your left.
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Could it be that Ford feels that the MSM won't cover anything he does in an unbiased way, thus requiring him to get his msg out another way? That's absurd isn't it?


There are alternate ways of getting his message out that has absolutely no cost to the taxpayer (aka Trump). Hmmmmm????
 

Curious Cdn

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Could it be that Ford feels that the MSM won't cover anything he does in an unbiased way, thus requiring him to get his msg out another way? That's absurd isn't it?


There are alternate ways of getting his message out that has absolutely no cost to the taxpayer (aka Trump). Hmmmmm????

That's how Goebbels saw it too, I'm sure.

I love these "real" Tories who believe in a centrally controlled City Hall by as few people as possible, selected by a single leader and official, government sanctioned news outlets.

You aren't Conservatives. You are something else from the political Right but you are not Conservatives.
 

spilledthebeer

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Whats the prob liberals enjoy/ed tax payer funded propaganda for years on cbc, torstar too but it's their dime they invest in lib bs.


CBC has a DIME that did not come from govt????????????


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And if all the civil service union Hogs and their LIE-beral allies stopped buying the Toronto Red Star- it too would be GONE!!!!


Re Star survives by telling \hogs what they want to hear:


That they ARE ENTITLED!!!!!


That they are a force for good in our economy - in some NEVER EXPLAINED FASHION!!!!!


That the general public loves them and respects the job they are doing in such a slovenly way!!!!!


That Cdns are happy to swallow massive tax hikes so the LIE-BERALS can have rich gravy to shre with their new best friends that "systemic racist Cdns refer to as illegals !!!!!!!


Yes- Toronto Red Star has a warm, fuzzy homily for every single Hog out there!
 

Hoid

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It's fine to have your own news channel but it can't be your only communication with the public.

This is my problem with the NRA.

Why are they not out there advocating for 1ST amendment rights?
 

10larry

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Lets' not forget globull tv, their washington gossip agent jackson proskow became a star after lurking in robs' bushes and backyard to try and find something untoward til rob threatened trespass charges. Left field is really well covered n' it appears doug feels team canuckstan could use a right fielder.
 

Hoid

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Or perhaps Hillary?

She has been suspiciously silent about all of this.
 

Walter

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That's how Goebbels saw it too, I'm sure.

I love these "real" Tories who believe in a centrally controlled City Hall by as few people as possible, selected by a single leader and official, government sanctioned news outlets.

You aren't Conservatives. You are something else from the political Right but you are not Conservatives.
Godwin’s here.
 

Jinentonix

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It's fine to have your own news channel but it can't be your only communication with the public.

This is my problem with the NRA.

Why are they not out there advocating for 1ST amendment rights?
Why do you whine about guns when motor vehicles are involved in WAY more death and injury than firearms? Very few of which are the result of gang related activities.
 

spilledthebeer

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Walter's here.


Gosh Hoid- HOW QUICKLY LIE-BERALS FORGET!!!!!!!!!!!!


Do you not recall the HELL`S KITCHEN BUDGET cooked up by LIE-beral Wynne-bag?


And do you really want to pretend that our new media is giving open and honest coverage to all parties and is NOT deliberately slanting news against people like Ford???


When the illegals began flooding into Canada thanks to that idiot invite from Our idiot Boy Justin- our LIE-beral loving news media covered a few protests by Hindus and others who had relatives buried in the glacially slow moving Cdn immigration system- waiting for years to get a response- and they deeply resented seeing the illegals doing that LINE CRASHING- just showing up and refusing to leave- that LIE-berals are turning a blind eye to!!!!


So how big a hypocrite do you have to be to insist that anything a LIE-beral says is always true- while condemning a Conservative for trying to set the record straight???



And here- let me remind you of the Wynne-bag budget LIES:


Here is an article illustrating the CRAP that LIE-berals are cooking up for us to swallow whole! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Chef Sousa’s in Hell’s Kitchen.

First posted: Thursday, April 27, 2017 07:35 PM EDT | Updated: Thursday, April 27, 2017 07:42 PM EDT

Finance Minister Charles Sousa unveils his budget Thursday, April 27, 2017 at Queen's Park. Liberals hiding their deficit.

Ontario Finance Minister Charles Sousa — “Chef Sousa” — as dubbed by Progressive Conservative leader Patrick Brown — served up a “balanced budget” for Ontario taxpayers Thursday.

Too bad he cooked it in Hell’s Kitchen, which is what passes for Ontario’s finance ministry these days. Here’s Sousa’s problem and, more important, Premier Kathleen Wynne’s problem. No matter how much the Liberals try to dress up what they say is their first “balanced budget” since 2008, you can’t put lipstick on a pig.

The pig is the staggering public debt the Liberals have racked up since taking power in 2003, now at $311.9 billion. That’s 125% higher than the $138.8 billion the Liberals inherited from the previous PC government in 2003.

Even with Sousa and Wynne claiming a “balanced budget” this year — and Brown says they’re actually hiding a $5 billion operating deficit — Ontario’s debt now costs taxpayers $12 billion in interest payments annually.

(Brown is correct- LIE-berals are using one time money form Hydro sale to HIDE the deficit till after 2018 election! And yes- the DO have at least a 4 billion dollar operating deficit- now that their illegal accounting- borrowing magic money from bankrupt crown corps- to subsidize hydro costs has been exposed! Hydro costs are thus AT LEAST FOUR BILLION DOLLARS HIGHER than LIE-berals admit! And brown is right in wondering what other scndals LIE-berals have hidden?)

If Ontario’s annual interest payments on debt were a government ministry, it would be the fourth largest spender after health, education and welfare.

Think of how many more subways, or hospital beds, or MRIs the Liberals could purchase with $12 billion a year, if it was not going down the black hole of paying interest on debt, without reducing the principal amount owed by a penny.

But that’s not the end of the Liberals’ financial chicanery.

In selling 60% of Hydro One to the private sector, the Liberals told us the money would be used to pay down debt and build up public infrastructure.

They also said the almost $2 billion annually they will take from us through cap and trade carbon pricing would go toward reducing greenhouse gas emissions.

(Although in another recent announcement, LIE-berals now say Carbon crap and trade will not produce as much gravy as expected. Probably because LIE-berals are finding-as Europeans did before them-that to keep their economy alive they MUST hand out carbon exemptions to corporations so jobs can be saved!)

But as PC finance critic Vic Fedeli pointed out Thursday, through sleight-of-hand, the Liberals are actually using this money to meet their daily operating expenses.

What they’ve done is to earmark the Hydro One and cap and trade money for the purposes they described, but then taken out an equal amount from the operating budget to spend on whatever they want.

(LIE-berals have issued hundreds of billions of dollars in pension promises to civil service Hog unions and those IOU`s are DUE NOW! These pension promises will ENSURE that Ontari-owe endures a fiscal bloodbath of new fees and taxes in 2019 if LIE-berals remain in charge as they struggle with monstrous HOG debts and obscene luxury promises for the govt gravy train!)

Small wonder Ontario’s finances under the Liberals are a train wreck and the government they lead is the world’s most indebted sub-sovereign (non national) borrower.

(LIE-berals MUST be put out of office in 2018 or we will be helpless to stem their tax and spend madness. If they win another mandate they will assume they can ALWAYS LIE-beral to us and get away with anything-just so long as they keep buying that hugely costly Hog support! If LIE-berals win again in Ontari-owe then the growth industry here will be with moving vans shipping people to other provinces! Or to other countries!)



















Recently a Toronto Sun writer made note of a quiet and peaceful protest by Cdns of Chinese background- and they were also complaining of illegals doing their line crashing! But main stream media DOES NOT WANT TO HURT THEIR BELOVED LIE-berals so no major media said anything about the protest!
 

Hoid

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Why do you whine about guns when motor vehicles are involved in WAY more death and injury than firearms? Very few of which are the result of gang related activities.
That was a frivolous statement.

I will start using winkys or smileys or something
 

MHz

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Or perhaps Hillary?

She has been suspiciously silent about all of this.

Probably to hide the electrics that are keeping her ticking.