Canada's Defense & Role on the Planet

Jinentonix

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Exactly!!

(and being between Trump and his pal Putin ( Two power hungry crazies ) is not all that comforting.
It's astounding how you can ignore geo-political realities just to keep the Trump/Putin narrative rolling along. But then leftards are great at ignoring reality.
 

Walter

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It's astounding how you can ignore geo-political realities just to keep the Trump/Putin narrative rolling along. But then leftards are great at ignoring reality.

Utopia is always just a few million deaths away.
 

OpposingDigit

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It seems to me that we endured 15 years of "Terror" news 24-7. And today there is very little comment.
Now that all the anti-terror legislation has been passed and all the laws in place to control the population as the economy continues to crumble, the Ruling Class have now turned their fears onto Russia and the need to increase defense spending.
 

Twin_Moose

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It seems to me that we endured 15 years of "Terror" news 24-7. And today there is very little comment.
Now that all the anti-terror legislation has been passed and all the laws in place to control the population as the economy continues to crumble, the Ruling Class have now turned their fears onto Russia and the need to increase defense spending.

You sure like to defend Russia, how come?
 

OpposingDigit

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I am not defending Russia. Russia is just as evil as America is. America has tortured, renditioned, invaded, operated black sites and Guantanamo Bay and robbed/slaughtered much more than Russia has done in recent history.

The Russia fear is now being used to introduce censorship within the media.

Anti-Terror legislation combined with censorship is exactly what the Ruling Class needs in place as Martial Law is introduced. Imagine Mark Zukerberg and The Clowns being in control of censorship?
 
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Twin_Moose

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I am not defending Russia. Russia is just as evil as America is. America has tortured, renditioned, invaded, operated black sites and Guantanamo Bay and robbed much more than Russia has done in all of history.

The Russia fear is now being used to introduce censorship within the media.

Really? In all of history? Your not serious are you? The holocaust pales in comparison to the Holodomor Russia inflicted on Ukraine alone not even mentioning the rest of the satellite states they forced their will on. Yes I think you are down playing Russia's ruthlessness by a lot, so you must be defending them.
 

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I am not defending Russia. Russia is just as evil as America is. America has tortured, renditioned, invaded, operated black sites and Guantanamo Bay and robbed/slaughtered much more than Russia has done in recent history.

The Russia fear is now being used to introduce censorship within the media.

Anti-Terror legislation combined with censorship is exactly what the Ruling Class needs in place as Martial Law is introduced. Imagine Mark Zukerberg and The Clowns being in control of censorship?
Best move to Venezuela, no one wants them .
 

Twin_Moose

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Anti-Terror legislation combined with censorship is exactly what the Ruling Class needs in place as Martial Law is introduced. Imagine Mark Zukerberg and The Clowns being in control of censorship?

As a Canadian why is your hate of the US so high? For as much bad they did to us they did just as much good if not more, we would not be the nation we are if it wasn't for our neighbours to the South.
 

Twin_Moose

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Yep it's on a collision course, hopefully resolved without fisticuffs, by taking them on economically right now may defuse the situation for a generation or 2
 

OpposingDigit

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I don't care to argue which is worse .... Russia or America.

The point I am making is that this anti-Russia news 24-7 is identical to how the anti-terror news was being fed to us for 15 solid years. We are only into year 3 of this Russia onslaught of Russia news.

Nothing this well organized within the media with headlines "Russia" is by chance.

There are billions of people in the universe and thus billions of news stories, and yet Russia is front page every damn day.

Another Bogey Man in order to introduce censorship as the economy continues to crumble.
 

pgs

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I don't care to argue which is worse .... Russia or America.

The point I am making is that this anti-Russia news 24-7 is identical to how the anti-terror news was being fed to us for 15 solid years. We are only into year 3 of this Russia onslaught of Russia news.

Nothing this well organized within the media with headlines "Russia" is by chance.

There are billions of people in the universe and thus billions of news stories, and yet Russia is front page every damn day.

Another Bogey Man in order to introduce censorship as the economy continues to crumble.
The news media are in the business of selling advertising . News is only a small part of their platform . But you know that .
 

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Any national military's mission in simple and fundamental. To protect the sovereignty of the nation. Any treaty obligations we sign on to should have the same intention.

To the extent that secondary deployments for peacekeeping or training or treaty obligations should extent from that. It's probably time Canada reviewed all of its military commitments to see if they are relevant to the current world situation and realistic threats. They'd probably find that NATO, NORAD, and U.S. Northern Command no longer respond to the real world. And that they likely have undermined the development of a comprehensive military structure on a strictly national basis.

Russia is no longer an Empire and probably never had global aspirations. At that it only spends about 4% of its GDP for Defense, comparable to the U.S.. That said 2% of GDP is a realistic and achievable target. And non alignment would not come any cheaper.
 

Twin_Moose

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I don't care to argue which is worse .... Russia or America.

The point I am making is that this anti-Russia news 24-7 is identical to how the anti-terror news was being fed to us for 15 solid years. We are only into year 3 of this Russia onslaught of Russia news.

Nothing this well organized within the media with headlines "Russia" is by chance.

There are billions of people in the universe and thus billions of news stories, and yet Russia is front page every damn day.

Another Bogey Man in order to introduce censorship as the economy continues to crumble.

Being aggressive in Georgia, Ukraine, aligning with Syria, Iran and Hezbollah doesn't deserve to be in the news?
 

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Really? In all of history? Your not serious are you? The holocaust pales in comparison to the Holodomor Russia inflicted on Ukraine alone not even mentioning the rest of the satellite states they forced their will on. Yes I think you are down playing Russia's ruthlessness by a lot, so you must be defending them.

If memory serves holodomor pre dated putin &co. occuring during the stalin soviet union era, sorta like citing robert e lee as an example of current american pride.
Agree terrorism has been lame stream media massaged to now mean putin & rt.com because they are a thorn in not only cnns butt but also the clinton foundations'. Media wars are far preferable to shooting wars but imo disasterous hostilities can't be too far down the road n' I think putin is correct in saying after ww3 the next war will be fought with sticks and stones.
 

Twin_Moose

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If memory serves holodomor pre dated putin &co. occuring during the stalin soviet union era, sorta like citing robert e lee as an example of current american pride.
Agree terrorism has been lame stream media massaged to now mean putin & rt.com because they are a thorn in not only cnns butt but also the clinton foundations'. Media wars are far preferable to shooting wars but imo disasterous hostilities can't be too far down the road n' I think putin is correct in saying after ww3 the next war will be fought with sticks and stones.

I agree I missed the recent history part and thought the poster tried to say the US is worse than Russia historically which is factually wronge

Carpet bombing to help Syria would be worse than what the US does in very recent history
 

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If memory serves holodomor pre dated putin &co. occuring during the stalin soviet union era, sorta like citing robert e lee as an example of current american pride.
Agree terrorism has been lame stream media massaged to now mean putin & rt.com because they are a thorn in not only cnns butt but also the clinton foundations'. Media wars are far preferable to shooting wars but imo disasterous hostilities can't be too far down the road n' I think putin is correct in saying after ww3 the next war will be fought with sticks and stones.

He's quoting Einstein. With the usual credit Putin gives.

Any national military's mission in simple and fundamental. To protect the sovereignty of the nation.

Wrong, but thanks for playing. The mission of the military is to impose the government's will by force.
 

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Our role on the planet should be to love and protect the planet.