Trump tariff tirade has MPs united across party lines, urging calm

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I might have a little respect if Trudeau would have said that stuff to Trump's face not behind his back at a press conference.


And you've no proof he didn't. IMO I actually think Trudeau did tell Trump what he said he did, and Trump, as usual, thought it was BS or ignored it because he thinks Canada is a country who will kowtow to him. Now that he knows that's not true, he's butthurt about it and being his 5 year old self about it.
 

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does anyone really think that Trump is not an estrogen demented old man who is best ignored?
 

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And you've no proof he didn't. IMO I actually think Trudeau did tell Trump what he said he did, and Trump, as usual, thought it was BS or ignored it because he thinks Canada is a country who will kowtow to him. Now that he knows that's not true, he's butthurt about it and being his 5 year old self about it.

Oh, and you have proof that he did?
 

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the white nationalist climate change denier will not be bogged down in abstract logic

If Turdoh told this in person to Trump the CBC would be running it 24/7.

how would CBC know what was said?
 

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Because in private Trudeau told him that those were really really good tariffs. The greatest tariffs ever.
 

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Don't be silly.

All international foreign relations are conducted in full public view.
 

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Word came Trump was unexpectedly going to hold his own closing press conference before leaving. So there was a scramble to get the leaders together again to haggle over those issues.
It was the last chance to forge compromises.
Photos of the group of G7 leaders and their top officials, including one posted by Merkel’s office that went viral, show an intense debate that was going on over the final communiqué’s language on trade and oceans, with Trump seated in the middle.
No one expected Trump would sign on the climate change piece, but they’d hoped the U.S. would agree to take joint action to tackle plastic pollution in the world’s oceans.
In the end, it didn’t.
Trump held a news conference in which he promptly appeared to reject even the ideas on trade embodied in the communiqué he had agreed to, threatening to cut trade ties with any country who didn’t agree to a “zero tariffs” approach, telling reporters “the gig is up.”
“We’re like the piggy bank that everybody’s robbing, and that ends.”
Trump left, skipping the climate change and oceans sessions, but Trudeau took the stage Saturday evening to proclaim all G7 leaders had reached a joint statement, calling the summit a success and outlining his own talks with Trump.
It drew Trump’s wrath. Referencing Trudeau’s account of pushing back at the U.S., he tweeted Trudeau made “false statements.” He scorned Trudeau as appearing “meek and mild” in their meetings, but was “dishonest and very weak.”

So JT made it seem like Trump signed onto the communiqué and tried putting words into Trump's mouth thinking he was outside of ear shot. No wonder Trump got pissed at JT
 

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What the hell was this wonderful 'communique' all about anyways? I have yet to hear anybody explain it.

"We, the G7 Representatives, pledge to agree to some sort of agreement..agreeably, and in an agreeable way...to further things along...and to create the groundwork for undisputed and important mechanisms, which will unilaterally and henceforth pave the way for ongoing negotiations regarding matters of great significance."
 

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What the hell was this wonderful 'communique' all about anyways? I have yet to hear anybody explain it.

"We, the G7 Representatives, pledge to agree to some sort of agreement..agreeably, and in an agreeable way...to further things along...and to create the groundwork for undisputed and important mechanisms, which will unilaterally and henceforth pave the way for ongoing negotiations regarding matters of great significance."

pledge 3+ Billion dollars for girls education in 3rd world countries where they are supressed, sticking to the Paris agreement, and eliminating plastic usage around the world, is the bigger part of it
 

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Oh, and you have proof that he did?


You have proof he didn't? Trudeau has said for more than a week what Canada intended to do in retaliation to his stupid Tariffs. Now he's acting Butthurt over Trudeau continuing to say what he's been saying? Just because he met with Trump didn't mean the tariffs were gone. After all, was there any word from Trump that he was removing HIS tariffs?

If Turdoh told this in person to Trump the CBC would be running it 24/7.


He has said similar enough to Trump.

It's been going on since the tariffs were decided on.
 

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You have proof he didn't? Trudeau has said for more than a week what Canada intended to do in retaliation to his stupid Tariffs. Now he's acting Butthurt over Trudeau continuing to say what he's been saying? Just because he met with Trump didn't mean the tariffs were gone. After all, was there any word from Trump that he was removing HIS tariffs?.

From the article that I posted above

Trump left, skipping the climate change and oceans sessions, but Trudeau took the stage Saturday evening to proclaim all G7 leaders had reached a joint statement, calling the summit a success and outlining his own talks with Trump. It drew Trump’s wrath. Referencing Trudeau’s account of pushing back at the U.S., he tweeted Trudeau made “false statements.” He scorned Trudeau as appearing “meek and mild” in their meetings,

Pretty hard to talk with Trump when he wasn't there
 

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From the article that I posted above



Pretty hard to talk with Trump when he wasn't there


Trudeau said nothing to Trump he hadn't already said - that if the US continued with their push for Tariffs, Canada would push back.


https://www.thestar.com/news/canada...inst-trudeau-behind-the-scenes-at-the-g7.html

The part that stands out most from this article are these two things:

1. "Trudeau told Trump directly what he said in American television interviews the week before: that Canadians felt Trump’s declaration that Canadian steel and aluminum is a national security threat was “kind of insulting” — as Trudeau described it in his news conference Sunday.
An official said Trudeau used the example of the Canadian airbase where Trump’s Air Force One had touched down for the summit about an hour north.

“Why is Bagotville there? Bagotville is there to protect aluminum smelters that were building American warplanes in the Second World War,” Trudeau told Trump.

Trump’s trade representative, Robert Lighthizer, protested about Canada’s tariff markups on foreign dairy imports.

“The Prime Minister said, ‘Look, here’s the essence of our trading relationship. We sell you a lot of oil and energy and you sell us a lot of food and manufactured goods. It is a trillion dollar relationship. We could pick any one of those things and argue over the numbers. But shouldn’t we be talking about the relationship as a whole, which is an unmitigated positive for both of us?”

Canadian officials believed at the time Trump “got that.” They agreed to accelerate NAFTA talks, but there was no clear path as to the next steps with the tariffs in place."

2. "Canadian officials insist, and Trudeau’s spokesperson tweeted, that Trudeau said nothing he hadn’t already said in public or in private to Trump."



Your quote was only part of what happened: Trump's view. And since Trump usually lashes out negatively about anyone who he thinks "insults" him or is "against him" in any way, it wasn't a surprise to see that tweet, TBH. The meetings


Also, "Trump held a news conference in which he promptly appeared to reject even the ideas on trade embodied in the communiqué he had agreed to, threatening to cut trade ties with any country who didn’t agree to a “zero tariffs” approach, telling reporters “the gig is up.”"


So, Trump was still okay for Tariffs by the US onto outside goods but no one else could put them on US stuff? How in all that's holy is that fair, or right, for anyone?


"As Canadian officials tell it, Trudeau went over all of Canada’s arguments in opposition to Trump’s steel and aluminum tariffs, even though the Canadians had the feeling the American team had already “done some homework about how the Canadian public had reacted” to tariffs, and were surprised by the backlash."



Geeze, yathink???