The Kim/ Trump "Summit "

[Twin_Moose]

So there's mention of denuclearization, but no info what so ever about how it's going to happen (or if, remember NK is great for saying this but doing opposite), no more joint military exercises with Japan and SK, no talks about the atrocities of NK to it's people and those from other countries...

Just what did they sign?

"Promises". That's it. Promises that NK has a history of making, then reneging on later. I think until we all see proof that anything deal wise is held up by NK, we should take all this BS with a huge, huge heaping grain of salt.

Remember, he pulled out of Iran because he thought the deal was 'terrible' (which it wasn't). Unless he gets it all his way, he could just as easily screw any NK deal too.

One step at a time right now they are concentrating on de-nuking NoKo

As to your last sentence from the article

President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un commit to implement the stipulation in this joint statement fully and expeditiously. The United States and the DPRK commit to hold follow-on negotiations, led by the US Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, and a relevant high-level DPRK official, at the earliest possible date, to implement the outcomes of the US-DPRK summit.

There are stipulations and further negotiations on stipulations IMO would lead to a step program to reach benchmarks in the agreement that would have so many nukes gone for so many restrictions lifted

 

[Walter]

1. OFF LIMITS

Trump Won��t Discuss North Korea Human-Rights Abuses With Kim



https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-wont-discuss-north-korea-human-rights-abuses-with-kim

Fake news.

TRUMP TALKED HUMAN RIGHTS WITH NORTH KOREA, CONTRADICTING MEDIA REPORTS
http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/12/trump-north-korea-human-rights/

 

[Twin_Moose]

Fake news.

Trump Talked Human Rights With North Korea, Contradicting Media Reports | The Daily Caller

I agree it wouldn't even make sense to throw human rights into Kim's face when you are trying to get him to give up his nukes. Get rid of the nukes then work on human rights

 

[Hoid]

SO Trump both would not bring up human rights because it would be inappropriate and also he brought up human rights.

Either or.

 

[Twin_Moose]

Like I said in the future after the nuke thing is done

 

[Hoid]

Who better to make a pretend deal than a pretend president.

 

[JLM]

When was that? My history books are chock full of men breaking promises.

As Reagan said, “Trust, but verify.”

I think at all times there's been evidence of its occurrence, mainly depends on the person. I personally know one or two people who if they tell me something I know I can depend on it within the limits of their ability.

 

[Hoid]

where is this deal anyway?

is it with the trump collusion charges?

 

[EagleSmack]

I suspect that Kim is keeping track. Trump has removed the US from three deals now. Kim Beware .........as a deal with trump is not really a valid deal that one can count on. Even if Trump signs something........he will change his mind (cancels it) as soon as he leaves the airport. Trump already cancelled this once.......


It would have been so much smarter to have arranged all this a lot more quietly and without all the theater.

You seem very upset about this historic meeting.

where is this deal anyway?

is it with the trump collusion charges?

You also seem upset

So there's mention of denuclearization, but no info what so ever about how it's going to happen (or if, remember NK is great for saying this but doing opposite), no more joint military exercises with Japan and SK, no talks about the atrocities of NK to it's people and those from other countries...

Just what did they sign?

"Promises". That's it. Promises that NK has a history of making, then reneging on later. I think until we all see proof that anything deal wise is held up by NK, we should take all this BS with a huge, huge heaping grain of salt.

Remember, he pulled out of Iran because he thought the deal was 'terrible' (which it wasn't). Unless he gets it all his way, he could just as easily screw any NK deal too.

You seem upset as well.

Kim might just eat Trump for breakfast.

And you... well you're just ignorant.

 

[Walter]

When lefties are upset things are going well for the world.

 

[Hoid]

what does it mean when white nationalist climate change deniers are sure the world is against them?

 

[JLM]

And you... well you're just ignorant.

A point I've made many times which just seems to fall on deaf ears!

You seem very upset about this historic meeting.

If you should ever come across something that makes OB happy (besides denigrating Trump) let me know! :lol:

 

[pgs]

what does it mean when white nationalist climate change deniers are sure the world is against them?

That you and your side is lost .

 

[JLM]

I've been listening to comment on C.B.C radio for the past 3 hours about the meeting with Kim. The continuous messages seems to be about all the things that weren't accomplished. W.T.F.? In one hour he managed to achieve a rapport that hasn't been achieved in 70 years. That was the ideal point at which the meeting should have ended. Good feelings on both sides. He's invited Kim to Washington and any loose ends can be picked up then. Leave well enough alone for Christ sakes!

That you and your side is lost .

Is there ANY point in debating ANY thing with Hoid?

 

[Highball]

The first announcement about suspending Military Drills and pulling US troops from South Korea will surely upset many local nations in the area. This really doesn't pass the smell test.

 

[JLM]

The first announcement about suspending Military Drills and pulling US troops from South Korea will surely upset many local nations in the area. This really doesn't pass the smell test.

Should U.S. troops be there in the first place?

 

[Hoof Hearted]

Trump needed translators for both Kim AND Justin.

One spoke Korean...and the other spoke Lisp.

 

[pgs]

I've been listening to comment on C.B.C radio for the past 3 hours about the meeting with Kim. The continuous messages seems to be about all the things that weren't accomplished. W.T.F.? In one hour he managed to achieve a rapport that hasn't been achieved in 70 years. That was the ideal point at which the meeting should have ended. Good feelings on both sides. He's invited Kim to Washington and any loose ends can be picked up then. Leave well enough alone for Christ sakes!



Is there ANY point in debating ANY thing with Hoid?

Not really as he doesn’t debate . He simply makes an innocuous statement and runs away .

 

[Walter]

Is there ANY point in debating ANY thing with Hoid?

Nope.

Should U.S. troops be there in the first place?

Yep.

 

[Hoof Hearted]

Just reading 5 seconds of a Hoid post, I can immediately feel my own luck changing for the worse.