New poll puts Ontario PCs in 'super-majority' territory, NDP as opposition

mentalfloss

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All the pollsters have been calling a PC majority the most likely outcome.

But it's funny that you like polls now.
 

Walter

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Always remember the polls said Mrs. Clinton would be POTUS.
 

Hoid

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The polls I have seen don't even show the PCs leading the popular vote - let alone by super majority numbers.

CBC had the NDP leading last night
 

justlooking

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The polls I have seen don't even show the PCs leading the popular vote - let alone by super majority numbers.

CBC had the NDP leading last night




Awww, looks like you are getting ready for 4 years of crying about the popular vote.... just like Hillary. :lol:

The dyke-bitch has conceded the election.


Who are these 20% of people who would still vote for Windbag, after all that she has destroyed ?


Anyone who votes Liberal tomorrow should have their right to vote revoked.
 

Hoid

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Just now the CBC has PC 38% NDP 36.5% Liberal 19% and Green 5%

how that equates to a PC supermajority is unknown.
 

DaSleeper

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He's just like Mentalflush


 

Hoid

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Obviously there is a lot of gerrymandering in Ontario and you don't need any huge popular vote win in order to win a bunch of ridings - especially in 905 - but right now what that looks like to me is a minority government.
 

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Just now the CBC has PC 38% NDP 36.5% Liberal 19% and Green 5%

how that equates to a PC supermajority is unknown.


Look at the seat distribution.


The thing is how the votes are dispersed among the ridings.

Obviously there is a lot of gerrymandering in Ontario and you don't need any huge popular vote win in order to win a bunch of ridings - especially in 905 - but right now what that looks like to me is a minority government.


I don't know how it will turn out, I'd be hesitant to vote for any of them. But yes, I would probably end up voting for Ford, simply because Wynne and the NDP are even worse.


BTW, if Ontario is gerrymandered, it was done by the Liberals, for Liberal advantage. They've been in power for 15 years.


You really don't think things through, do you?
 

spilledthebeer

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Look at the seat distribution.


The thing is how the votes are dispersed among the ridings.




I don't know how it will turn out, I'd be hesitant to vote for any of them. But yes, I would probably end up voting for Ford, simply because Wynne and the NDP are even worse.


BTW, if Ontario is gerrymandered, it was done by the Liberals, for Liberal advantage. They've been in power for 15 years.


You really don't think things through, do you?


LIE-berals and their less intelligent NDP cousins are VERY FOND of jerrymandering! Consider that the new "province" of Nunavut with its population of 60,000 is permitted to elect TWO federal MP`s while ridings in southern Ontari-owe often have populations of 200,000 and only get ONE MP!


And LIE-berals have known for years that MP numbers in Atlantic Canada are out of wack and do not care!



Our democracy is under attack by LIE-berals, NDPers, their civil service union Hog allies and a host of other special interest grouops who all expect- and even DEMAND to profit from bullying the rest of us!



Consider: Here is an article illustrating how poisoned and out of wack things are getting at Toronto Silly Hall. With some comments of my own in brackets):



Toronto council rewards racism.

By Jerry Agar. Published: March 12, 2018. Updated: March 13, 2018 7:51 AM EDT

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ Opinion/ Columnists

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For the second time recently, racist rhetoric proved no impediment to getting baubles and plaudits from the City of Toronto.

First, Toronto city council officially approved awarding Black Lives Matter Toronto with the 2016 William P. Hubbard Award for Race Relations.

One of the founders and leaders of BLMTO is Yusra Khogali, who has been exposed so many times for her racist rhetoric there is no way for City Hall not to know about it.

(This is the woman who has asked God to give her the strength to resist the urge to kill white people! Sounds slightly intolerant to me!)

Nor would the selection committee for the most recent award not know about it, unless none of them use Google.

Yet there Khogali was again, with her fist in the air at Toronto City Hall, the recipient of the first Pam McConnell Award for Young Women in Leadership.

Assuming the organizers and councillors do use Google, do they support Khogali’s statement that white people are a genetic defect?

(Perhaps the city hall apeasers think they can defang Khogali if they agree with her? That appeasement did not work with Adolf Hitler is no reason for this generation of silver spoon socialists not to try it again! Is it?)

Do they support her musing that black people could use their genetic superiority to wipe out white people if, “we had the power to?’

(If Blacks are superior then why do they not have power? Sounds illogical? Reality is whites are not genetically superior- they are simply better organized and more effective thanks to systems like democracy and capitalism- both of which Khogali and her bigoted supporters want to destroy for selfish reasons!)

This Young Woman in Leadership has said, “White ppl are recessive genetic defects. This is factual.”

(One has to wonder what sort of policy Silly Hall knuckleheads would regard as BAD race relations? I suppose actually gunfire directed at politicians would qualify as unreasonable at Silly Hall? Maybe?)

BLMTO members not only refuse to condemn Khogali’s racist remarks, they support her. What does that tell us about them?

It is like 1950’s Alabama, only in reverse.

Some who support Khogali do so by claiming her argument that black skin is superior to white is scientifically factual.

I am not a scientist, but I can tell she isn’t trying to have a scientific discussion.

She is eerily reminiscent of those who believe in eugenics.

How would she and her supporters react to people claiming there is scientific proof that blacks are genetically pre-disposed to an average 15% lower IQ than whites? And yes, there are those who make that racist argument.

Fortunately those beliefs are not taken seriously, nor are their proponents celebrated at any city hall.

According to Metro News, speaking of Khogali and another recipient, Talisha Ramsaroop, Mayor Tory said he hoped both would run for public office and follow in McConnell’s footsteps by “advancing the interests in women in Toronto.”

Ramsaroop seems a worthy recipient of the award. Congratulations to her, and good for her for the work she does.

The McConnell Award was given on International Women’s Day.

Do women think we combat racism by rewarding racism? Does anyone?

(None of these socialist bigots CARE about racism- all that matters is gathering in votes and power! The hypocrites assume they can win Black votes this way and that whites are to busy to notice Silly Hall CRAP! And of course whites are feeling rather shell shocked by the barrage of hate directed at them! Although the soaring cost of dealing with the illegals swarming across the border at the invitation of Our idiot Boy Justin may prompt a re-think among previously complacent voters!)

In my experience councillors distance themselves from these controversies by saying they don’t pick the recipients and that they want to keep politics out of it.

Then why show up, as Tory and Councillor Kristyn Wong-Tam did for the McConnell award?

(And WHO DOES PICK the winners if not politicians? How can anything happen at Silly Hall without official permission and support?)

Wong-Tam thanked the winners for “making us uncomfortable.”

A publication in the Beaches called Your Ward News makes a lot of people uncomfortable with racist and homophobic arguments, but so far Wong-Tam hasn’t given them an award.

To be clear, no one should give that publication anything but disdain, but if uncomfortable racism is her criteria, they might qualify. Racism is racism.

There is no way those councillors would use such silly arguments in defence of white racists.

(Well- no- white racists are not so easily FOOLED by hypocrite political posturing as some Blacks apparently are? The fools at Silly Hall will turn on the radicals swiftly enough if it becomes convenient!)

I am not saying there aren’t serious issues to discuss regarding race in Toronto.

I am arguing that so long as racism is lauded by a weak set of politicians, we are not solving anything.

Kogali says Toronto is a racist city. She’s right. She has the awards to prove it.

(Hey- I AGREE with Kogali on that one thing- that swaths of Toronto ARE racist! And I say she DOES DESERVE that racist and hypocrite label!)
 

OpposingDigit

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I was hoping that the NDP would win, but I had some worries about the situation they would find themselves in with all the problems America is tossing our way with tariffs and corporate tax cuts. I have these fears that America is about to eat Canada for breakfast and if the NDP won the election, the NDP would of been tarred again in the same way Bob Rae was.

If things remain as they are and Doug Ford wins the election, Doug Ford and the Conservatives might very well go down in history with the same dunce cap that the NDP has been wearing since the Bob Rae Days.

Before America goes down, the Americans will attempt to stall the collapse off and set out to rape Canada of jobs and any possible success. Trump is creating a situation where Canada will not be able to compete.
 

White_Unifier

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Supermajority polls can cause a moderate backfire effect. For example, if I'm determined to vote anything but Liberal or NDP and it becomes clear that the PCs will get a supermajority, then I might become more inclined to vote for the best local candidate independently of his party. It might still lead to a PC majority, but perhaps not the supermajority the polls would have previously suggested.

I was hoping that the NDP would win, but I had some worries about the situation they would find themselves in with all the problems America is tossing our way with tariffs and corporate tax cuts. I have these fears that America is about to eat Canada for breakfast and if the NDP won the election, the NDP would of been tarred again in the same way Bob Rae was.

If things remain as they are and Doug Ford wins the election, Doug Ford and the Conservatives might very well go down in history with the same dunce cap that the NDP has been wearing since the Bob Rae Days.

Before America goes down, the Americans will attempt to stall the collapse off and set out to rape Canada of jobs and any possible success. Trump is creating a situation where Canada will not be able to compete.

That's why Canada should consider unilaterally dropping all tariffs against the world to compensate. We'd still suffer, but it might make the pain more bearable as we can at least shift trade to other states.

We might even want to drop tariffs against the US itself seeing how there is no way we could win a trade war with the US anyway.
 

Hoid

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To me it looks like nobody is even going to get a majority
 

IdRatherBeSkiing

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The polls I have seen don't even show the PCs leading the popular vote - let alone by super majority numbers.

CBC had the NDP leading last night


https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/onvotes/poll-tracker/


I have been following the polls through this CBC site which is averaging all the polls together. It has NDP and PC virtually tied (they have been flip flopping) but the PC vote seems to be better distributed to get more seats.


Again with the caveat that no poll can be trusted.

To me it looks like nobody is even going to get a majority


80%+ chance of a PC majority. For a minority, some people would actually have to vote Liberal.

So who has used the advanced voting yet?


I should of but I will have to vote tomorrow. I also still haven't 100% decided yet.