Bob Rae responds: ‘At some point, the lies have to be answered’

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Bob Rae responds: ‘At some point, the lies have to be answered’

The first of 1st-century Jerusalem scholar Rabbi Hillel’s famous three questions put it most succinctly: “If I am not for myself, then who will be for me?” There are many who suggest that for me to comment on my time as premier of Ontario only adds fuel to the flames of derision from right and left. But at some point, the lies and propaganda have to be answered. And things being what they are, if I don’t do it, not many others will.

I wrote about these years some time ago in a political memoir called From Protest to Power. Ontario’s economy grew steadily from 1983 to late 1989, but a combination of high-interest rates and restructuring following the free trade agreement with the United States were principally responsible for a sharp downturn that began before the election of 1990. As events unfolded, the Ontario economy faced its worst recession since the late 1930s. No sector was left untouched, from real estate in Toronto to forestry in northern Ontario.

Like all recessions, it took its toll on public finances. Costs increased as more people faced unemployment with a federal insurance scheme that kicked in with too little, too late. Inflation screeched to a halt, and so did provincial revenues, actually going down year over year for the first time since Mitch Hepburn had been premier.

That was the economic backdrop to the formation and life of the New Democratic Party government in Ontario, elected in September of 1990. To say that the NDP “caused the recession” is just nonsense. In the face of the recession, the government pursued a policy that sought partnership with the private sector (restructuring northern forestry companies, buying De Havilland with Bombardier, working on strategies for sectors that needed public support and private innovation), an unprecedented effort on training the work force (known as “Jobs Ontario”), focusing on social justice and employment equity, and investing substantial funds into housing and transit. Jobs began to return after 1992, and by 1995 Ontario’s growth was the best in the G7.

It was also a time of social innovation that was to be taken up by other governments decades later. A statement of relationship with First Nations. A Trillium Drug Plan to cover costly at-home treatment. Midwifery programmes that were the first in Canada. Pay equity. An environmental bill of rights. Labour legislation that extended collective bargaining, as well as increases in the minimum wage. These changes were not without controversy, or without opposition. But they reduced the inequalities that grew with the recession, and made a difference to working families.

The bad news was that, like the federal government and every other government in the country, we borrowed money to cover the gap between revenues and expenditures. The argument that the NDP “spent like drunken sailors” is not just an insult to the navy—it also happens to be false. The growth in expenditure over the four-and-a-half years of government was, on average, barely above the rate of inflation. Our challenge was made more difficult by the decision of the federal government to reduce its transfers to Ontario, an approach far different from that taken in earlier recessions. The discrimination in transfers to Ontario specifically was eventually remedied by the Chretien government—but not before the damage was done.

https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/bob-rae-responds-at-some-point-the-lies-have-to-be-answered/
 

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Bob Rae said in 1991 "We are going to spend our way out of this recession". He did. Then he spent the last 3 years of his term trying to clean up his mess.
 

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Is Bob a Lib or a Dipper? Perhaps there is no difference.
 

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Bob Rae said in 1991 "We are going to spend our way out of this recession". He did. Then he spent the last 3 years of his term trying to clean up his mess.


OH that is a LIE! Wretched Rae spent the last three years of his term as premier BLAMING THE BANKS for not loaning him enough money to "succeed"!



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AS for the current crop of loonie leftist liars- LIE-beral and NDPers- consider this:


Here is an article that contains both a warning and a fine sense of irony. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Ontario NDP and unions not just friends, Liberals claim

By Antonella Artuso. Published: May 30, 2018. Updated: May 30, 2018 2:12 PM EDT

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ News/ Ontario

Liberals have dug up the old Ontario NDP Cornerstone controversy to shine a light on what they say is a too-cozy relationship the NDP has with unions.

(And why would LIE-berals do this NOW? Oh right- in spite of LIE-beral efforts to BUY civil service union Hog support- ETFO- our elementary teachers union has thrown its support behind NDP! Hogs do love their gravy and NDP clearly offered a better deal than LIE-berals! There is no loyalty among Hogs! And is it not wildly FUNNY that Wynne-bag LIE-berals have waited till this last desperate hour to START telling us some truth? It is true- as Wynne-bag says- that Horvath and her NDP horde WILL FAVOUR the civil service union AHEAD of all other citizens in Ontari-owe! The GROSS IRONY is that LIE-berals have been doing that for DECADES! )

Ontario Liberal campaign co-chair Deb Matthews says the NDP and unions are so intertwined that it raises serious questions about Leader Andrea Horwath’s ability to properly represent the public’s interest in labour negotiations.

(NDP has ALREADY told us they will not use back to work legislation to end strikes such as that at York U. - which is now the longest running strike ever at an English speaking Cdn institution! And there will be another week till the election and then- depending on who wins- there will be another week of setting up govt before ANY action is taken! Workers at TTC are also in strike position and are simply waiting to see who gets elected before going into full on Hog loot and pillage mode! Union Hog demands are piling up even faster than our deficits and reality is that NEITHER NDP nor LIE-berals will be able to implement any of their grand economic plans as international bond traders will cut them off at the knees for being so stupid with those gobs of borrowed money! WE HAVE ALREADY been put on notice about the size of our debts!)

”The NDP and Ontario’s largest unions are not just allies, they are partners, literally, they are business partners,” Matthews said Wednesday. “Bluntly said, the NDP is in no position to say no to these unions because they are in business together.”

The NDP issued a statement calling Matthews “Kathleen Wynne’s Liberal water-carrier,” and denying any financial relationship between the NDP and Cornerstone Leadership Corporation, a union-funded company.

(OH THAT IS A LAUGH! Hogs have been running attack ads in support of LIE-berals for decades now in violation of election spending law- and they did it in exchange for GRAVY- LOTS OF IT! But now we are broke and the IOU`s that LIE-berals handed out so freely are clearly seen to be worthless so union Hogs turn away from LIE-berals in desperate search for other gravy dispensing patrons! NDPers are only to happy to issue their own worthless IOU`s to Hogs in exchange for votes- Rae Days now being so conveniently in the distant past!)

“Lawyers for the NDP will be following up immediately with the Liberal party regarding its statements,” the NDP said, calling Cornerstone its landlord.

Matthews argued the NDP doesn’t just rent space from Cornerstone for its headquarters at 2069 Lakeshore Blvd. W. in Toronto, it is a fellow shareholder and the organization has acted as a guarantor in the past to help fund NDP election campaigns.

(Poor LIE-berals - they do so hate it when others are just as sneaky and duplicitous as they are!)

NDP party officials hold five of the current nine positions on the board of Cornerstone, which includes representation from unions such as CUPE and OPSEU, she said.

(It is just the usual cosy relationship between loonie leftists and union Hogs- at the expense of ordinary people!)

“Here we’re talking about a $1 million more in union dues that were run through Cornerstone where they fell under NDP control,” Matthews said. “And then that money was used to backstop the NDP operations and election campaign budgets.”

The relationship between the NDP and Cornerstone is not illegal but it is improper, according to Matthews.

The Liberals released audio that explains the Cornerstone structure, and Matthews noted Horwath’s well-known opposition to back-to-work legislation.

Large unions that in the past have split their affections between the Liberals and the NDP are clearly tilting toward Horwath’s team in this provincial election campaign as they seek to keep PC Leader Doug Ford out of the premier’s office.

(BULL SH+T!!!! Union Hogs are tilting towards NDP because the VAST array of LIE-beral issued IOU`s cannot be honoured- we are too broke! LIE-berals have promised OSSTF- our high school teachers a pension top up that is in the FIFTY FIVE BILLION DOLLAR RANGE! OSSTF runs the single biggest pension management fund in all of North America- with OMERS- Ontari-owe municipal employees in the top 5 and Quebec municipal employees in the top 10!)

(The 19 public sector unions hold a VERY COSTLY set of IOU`s issued by Ontari-owe LIE-berals and we don’t have the cash nor the borrowing ability to honour the provincial promises! And the last time main stream media talked honestly about the HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS needed to keep Hog pension plans solvent was in 2012- the amounts of money promised to Hogs by LIE-berals at all four levels of govt ard so huge it scares even LIE-berals! LIE-berals simply cannot shovel our cash into Hog pension plans fast enough to keep them out of bankrupt status! Hence the increasing union anger with LIE-berals and the hunt for more generous new political partners! The June 2018 election is really about choosing a new supplier of Hog gravy as the old one is a disappointment! Grossly Entitled Hogs resent us ordinary people for butting in on Hog business and complicating election issues with our selfish needs!)

Still, Matthews denied that her party’s Cornerstone claims reflect Liberal bitterness and desperation.

“We think unions have done a lot of great work in this province,” she said. “But what we are saying is that being business partners and acting as government responsible for the public interest is highly problematic.”

(Which is a delicate warning to NDP that Hogs will bite the hand that feeds the gravy if they are not handled firmly- which NDP knuckleheads refuse to do!)

The NDP statement notes that the Liberals themselves make it clear that nothing illegal has gone on.

(No -nothing illegal has gone on but that is a function of a sloppy and ill enforced set of election laws- there is CLEARLY a GROSS conflict of interest here as LIE-beraqls and NDPers jocky to BUY Hog votes- with BORROWED money! Something HIGHLY UNSAVOURY is happening that voters should take note of and SHUN NDP and Hog unions! NDP has learned NOTHING from the Bob Rae debacle! And LIE-berals have lenred nothing from Dalton McGinty and his hopeless attempt to rein in reckless Hog greed! McGinty failed so badly to limit the greed that it resulted in him being DRIVEN FROM OFFICE- to be replaced by the Wynne-bag who told Hogs “I will do whatever it takes to regain your trust”! Which is LIE-beral speak meaning “I will drive up the price of electricity SKY HIGH so I can collect enough gravy to satisfy you”- too bad that effort is now enraging ordinary people and it is Wynne-bag following McGinty into history- while ungrateful Hogs switch their support to NDP!)

“The party receives no financial consideration or donations of any type, including in-kind donations, from Cornerstone. The party pays market-rate rent for its offices, as determined by an independent real estate firm,” the statement says.

“There is no financial relationship between the NDP and Cornerstone of any kind.”

(Oh right- and what of the IOU`s that will be quietly honoured IF NDP forms the next govt? Hogs will have a tame and subservient govt doing their bidding- over the helpless protests of ordinary people!)
 

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He was a dipper provincially....then a Lib at the federal level


Oh the REVISIONIST HISTORY being given out about Rae!



What NDP knuckleheads and their LIE-beral opponents do not want to admit is that Rae DESTROYED his own career by trying to make us rich with borrowed money!


Rae made such a mess that he fled NDP - but being a big ego- he sought some place else to make his influence known and joined the federal LIE-berals- and clearly Rae is suffering from a communicable form of madness- how else to explain Our idiot Boy Justin and his moronic LIE-beral minions trying to make us rich with BORROWED MONEY- just as Rae tried with Ontari-owe!



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

spilledthebeer

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They're both smarter than Conservatives.




PIty the poor LIE-berals- and their less intelligent cousins of NDP who truly think that Our idiot Boy Justin can make us rich with borrowed money using the same idiot LIES as Ontari-owe premier Bob (BOOB) Rae!


I said- in the months before Our idiot Boy was elected - that he would perform a magic trick for us and make all our jobs and money disappear- and now he is well into the trick- with the only real signs of growth coming in the public sector as LIE-berals hire ever more civil service union Hogs in a frantic effort to BUY enough supporters to cling to power at any price!


And there is also the HUGE economic pressure of those teeming tens of thousands of illegals that LIE-berals so regularly LIE about!
LIE-berals tell us that about 200 illegals cross into Canada every day- except they are reporting from ONLY ONE Quebec site- so there is LIE ONE!



And LIE-berals have admitted that as many as 500 illegals cross at that site in a single day- so LIE TWO!



LIE-beral tell us that we sre on track for about 50,000 illegals coming to Canada this year- except that 200 X 365 days says it over 70,000 and we already know that is LIE THREE!


LIE-berals Sunny Ways are turning into crap! LIE-beral policy is spinning like turds in a flushed toilet! Consider:


Oh my, some civil service Working Family Hog claims there is a video out there some place featuring Justin Trudope explaining quantum physics. I have said many times that our prime minister-the Boy with nice hair-for Brains- is not very bright-but get it straight here-I NEVER said he was illiterate-he is merely selfish, arrogant and dangerously muddled in his philosophy and world view.

If our Boy was really smart enough to understand quantum physics then he would also be smart enough to understand economics and his massive record breaking deficits and incredible spending madness are PROOF that he doesn’t understand economics! Boy seems utterly unaware of the harsh cumulative effects of constantly borrowing money for stupid things and then having to pay interest on it-compounded AND amortized!

If Boy cannot understand compound interest (its economics 101) then he certainly cannot understand a tougher subject like quantum physics! And isn’t it nice that Boy CAN read a teleprompter that will put words in his mouth about quantum physics-no need for understanding-just read the teleprompter like the air head media whores that support him! Our foolish Boy has no more understanding of quantum physics than any of the Toronto (Red) Star newspaper reporters who support him! Again-if they understood quantum physics they would also understand BASIC economics and would therefore be gravely worried about the future of Canada due to the LIE-beral inspired spending insanity! The LIE-beral lack of worry is proof of ignorance!

The Boy with the nice hair-for Brains-that foolish man with the understanding of a child-Justin Trudope has said he can `save` the Cdn economy by `stimulating` it-he feels that running us much further into debt will be beneficial somehow? He is apparently unconcerned or perhaps OBLIVIOUS that it is a retread of the crap foisted upon us by that NDP doofus Bob Rae! Consider the flaws in the Trudope argument::

One has only to travel to the nearest shopping mall to get a feel for what the economy REALLY NEEDS! There is all manner of stuff on sale-in a rainbow of colours and sizes and styles......NO SHORTAGE OF ANYTHING......up to and including ultra high end Maserati and Lamborgini sports cars and luxurious corporate jets! Magnificent cuts of steak, great mouth watering slabs of Atlantic salmon, the finest wines......you name it and somebody will bring it SWIFTLY right to your door and ask: will that be CASH OR CHARGE?

Most Cdns can make a sizeable LIST of things they WANT badly. Such as extra cash to pay off mortgage or student loans, money for roof repair or new tires for car or maybe just a new car to replace the old rust bucket. Snow boots for the kids, a new bicycle, a new rug for the house, time to repaint the place .....the list of REAL NEEDS is ENDLESS......but what is NOT endless is the CASH needed to pay for the needs!

WE NEED CASH! WE DON’T NEED MORE DEBT....especially when the LIONS SHARE of that debt will go to providing MORE GRAVY for civil service Working Family HOGS! Trudope has NO plan to stimulate the economy for ordinary people, he plans ONLY to stimulate the economy for already over compensated HOGS....and the rest of us get to pay for his selfish VOTE BUYING actions!

If LIE-berals had to depend on ordinary people to gain power they would be sitting alone in the dark-forgotten and BROKE! LIE-berals derive their power solely from civil service Working family Hogs and from the scavengers that follow in the wake of the Hogs-picking up the crumbs! All manner of hoteliers, concierges, vendors of choice foods and wines, fund managers and investment bankers, real estate agents and many others-a VAST army of people whose business it is to seek out the most wealthy in our society and cater to those `special` people-most of them on a `sunshine list` some place or other! If govt balances its books these spoiled and specially privileged people will have to live and WORK like ordinary Cdns...and they WONT LIKE IT! ALL LIE-beral votes are BOUGHT using tax money taken from the over fifty five percent of Cdn dimwits who don’t vote!

Trudope speaks in CODE when he talks of saving the `middle class`.....fifty years of government debt have made sure that the majority of `middle class` ARE civil servants swallowing up gross quantities of government gravy!

WE have a `service economy`-most of us sell things or repair things made by other nations.....one simply cannot have a solid gold civil service pension on the sort of taxes paid by a waitress or a retail worker or a secretary!

The Ontari-owe high school teachers are in a panic because their pension plan will go bankrupt by about 2018 UNLESS they get FIFTY FIVE BILLION DOLLARS in new cash! OSSTF teachers have the single largest pension fund in North America, Ontari-owe municipal employees have a pension fund in the top 5 and Quebec municipal employees have a pension fund in the top 10 in ALL of North America.....and yet these funds-along with the pensions of ALL other civil service Hogs (19 unions in total at FOUR LEVELS of govt-count them-federal, provincial, municipal and the `arms length` crown corps such as ORNGE. E-health, OPG and colleges and hopsitals) are about to go bust because the entitlements of the Hogs are so gross that their vast financial holdings and routine 20-25 percent return on investment are NOT ENOUGH to keep the Hogs in gravy!

YES, they are all running headlong into bankrupt status IN SPITE of receiving returns on their pensions that ordinary people are NOT ALLOWED BY LAW! WE peons are entitled to make RRSP investments equal to about 18 percent of our salary-assuming we HAVE any money left to invest-and in the previous month 53,000 Cdns LOST their full time jobs and 49,000 Cdns GAINED PART TIME CRAP WORK! But civil service Hogs get paid ONE THIRD MORE than ordinary people for the same work AND Hogs have special permission to gobble up tax deductible RRSP type opportunities that are just about DOUBLE what we are allowed! And still they want MORE.....and no `please` about it Oliver!!!!

The Trudope plan will not save not save the economy, it will simply KILL US OFF!
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On Tuesday, our brainless Boy will present his first budget and it will be a masterpiece of sleight of hand designed to calm and placate and bribe....it will be a blow to the economy and a puff piece designed to look good for all those Hogs who DEMAND gravy from the LIE-beral monsters they have created and there will be some BORROWED tidbits thrown to that silent majority that Boy wants to stay silent! The brainless Boy and his greedy supporters live in terror of an awakened and angry public. Mike Harris got the largest majority ever awarded to an Ontari-owe politician in his second term. When Rob Ford was elected, voter turnout JUMPED nearly fifty percent! Both Harris and Ford produced budgets for their jurisdictions that were more fiscally stable and prosperous than what had been seen before or what came after! Only the Hogs were truly unhappy.

The silent majority is the sleeping giant that pays all the bills and retains the power to sweep the Hogs away! The brainless Boy will have to be very magical to ride this economic mess without UTTERLY ruining our economy or destroying LIE-beral chances for another term!
 

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Bob Rae isn't lying. The Liberals left Ontario in a mess. What he doesn't say is that he lacked the experience or brains to clean up that mess. He just made a bigger one. Just as Horvath will.
 

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I think we better be prepared for a Dipper win on Thursday. A case of Hobson's choice if I ever saw one!


Some of the remarks made about Bob (BOOB!) Rae indicate that his supporters may not have both feet on the ground! Believing a thing DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE!!!


Unless you are a silver spoon socialist!



And I think Rae truly believes that it was bankers that killed his career rather than any fault in his screwed

up socialist world view!


Consider:


Here is an article illustrating in no uncertain terms that an NDP govt would be even worse for Ontari-owe than a LIE-beral one. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Horwath’s candidate controversy no accident

From Postmedia News. Published: May 31, 2018. Updated: May 31, 2018 9:11 PM EDT

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ Opinion/ Editorials

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NDP Leader Andrea Horwath greets candidate Tasleem Riaz during a campaign stop on May 31. Riaz had a Hitler meme on her Facebook page. She denies posting it. (DAVE ABEL, Toronto Sun)

As NDP leader Andrea Horwath’s poll numbers grew during the past few weeks, so has scrutiny of her candidates.

Her daily press conferences, called to highlight NDP policy announcements, instead have been waylaid by constant revelations and questions about her slate of activist candidates.

With good cause.

(It is standard NDP philosophy that the conventional order of society is simply not good enough! NDPers think the deal offered to ALL workers is unfair. They strenuously object to companies making a profit, They view themselves as revolutionary crusaders saving the oppressed and down trodden of the world- all this naturally pits them against every facet of conventional western society! In short the NDP world view is sufficiently off base that they have NOTHING to offer conventional society or business!)

One candidate, Tasleem Riaz, posted a meme of Adolf Hitler giving a Nazi salute along with an inspirational quote from Hitler about power. Riaz didn’t recall posting the meme, now suggests she was hacked but didn’t report that at the time. She also suggested in a separate post that Canadian troops in Afghanistan were war criminals “slaughtering… innocent Men, Women and Children.”

(We know that “communication” students at Wilfred Laurier University study the old Nazi propaganda film “Triumph of the Will” chronicling the rise of Adolf Hitler and think it is a useful teaching tool. The problem is that people like Riaz- with her third world mentality do not see that Hitler was not simply a European Racist- he was a WORLD PROBLEM! Nor does Riaz see Imperial Japan-circa 1941 as a world threat either! She blames any and all problems on white colonials! Such people blame whites for the existence of Isis and Taliban! Her bias is HUGE!)

Another candidate, Jill Andrew, suggested Toronto Police Mark Saunders deserved the “2016 coon award” after he cautioned front-line troops following the shooting of 14 cops in Dallas, and criticized “those people” trying to drive a wedge between police and the LGBTQ community.

(It is a weird fact that Black Lives Matter members are grotesque racists in their own right- quite convinced that only massive reverse racism against white people will save the world! Toronto BLM leaders- have suggested that whites are genetically inferior to blacks and have suggested it might be good to wipe them out and after making such comments the LOONS at Toronto Silly Hall gave the mawards for fostering race relations! BLM would get a little farther in its campaign against cops if they STOPPED defending criminals with outstanding arrest warrants! BLM pretends that cops hauling black drug dealers and thieves off the street is a clear sign of white racism!)

Another candidate, Laura Kaminker, called the poppy “fake,” “war glorification” and “collective brainwashing” in an anti-war post — and appears to be a 9/11 conspiracy theorist who believes the U.S. government had a hand in the al-Qaida terror attack on New York’s Twin Towers in 2001.
(One has to wonder just how little knowledge of history such people have? Does she really think- for instance- that Adolf Hitler would not have attacked if the prime minister of Britain had been a woman. Based on the writings of various radical feminists- the answer is YES! Radicals throw all manner of blame on white men- no matter the circumstances! Yes- Hitler was a bad man; Brit PM Chamberlain was a wqeak man who tried and failed to make peace; while Churchill was a trained military officer and a man who rallied the world to the great cause! All blinkered feminazis see is a bunch of men- NO distinction!)

Another, Jessica Bell, helped write a how-to-guide for radicals advocating “economic shutdown,” “occupation,” “property destruction” and other civil disobedience tactics to further social justice causes.

(AS I have said: NDPers despise companies that make a profit!)

Another star candidate, Gurratan Singh, the brother of the federal NDP leader, carried an anti-cop protest sign saying “F— the Police” during a 2006 demonstration. He apologized, 12 years after the fact and after the Toronto Sun published the photo.

(That is another issue- radical disdain for cops who are merely servants of the ELECTED govt that serves the majority! Yet radical socialists feel ENTITLED to put asdie any laws they disagree with!)

There’s a lengthy list of similar conduct by other NDP candidates.

In each instance, Horwath downplayed their outrageous statements or defended them as free speech.

(Horvath got to her position by diplomatically HIDING her more foolish views! I doubt she is as radical minded as her candidates but she IS NDP- and that should be warning enough!)

However, none of the controversy over the NDP candidates is a consequence Horwath’s failure to screen them. She has insisted that isn’t the case, and for good reason.

The NDP hand-picked a slate of activists and social justice candidates specifically because they support the party’s hard-left activist agenda.

They, in fact, represent the divisive, dysfunctional, progressive culture the NDP embraces. These are the candidates Horwath wants!

And at some point, you’re judged by the company you keep. And all of Horwath’s candidates, she says, are “under consideration” for cabinet.

We hope voters will keep that in mind on June 7.

(WE have already had LOTS of local experience with NDP activists! Think of one term Toronto mayor John Sewell who was to leftie even for Silly Hall- and got dumped and started writing a column for the Now Magazine socialist lunatic fringe. Or Barbara Hall- another NDPer Toronto mayor who also got dumped after one term and she is now Grand Poobah at the Ontari-owe Human Rights Commission and she will be front and centre if Our idiot Boy and his federal LIE-berals ever turn their Islamophobia mess into some sort of alw that will BAN and silence any critic of any part of LIE-beral policy! There are no better people for devising reasons to LIMIT YOUR RIGHTS - while expanding their own- than a silver spoon socialist and NDP and LIE-berals have a nice LARGE selection!)
 

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Bob Rae responds: ‘At some point, the lies have to be answered’

So when is he going to answer for all the lies he has told?
 

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Bob Rae responds: ‘At some point, the lies have to be answered’

So when is he going to answer for all the lies he has told?

This is the 21st century, maybe we shouldn't go there. Bob has probably learned a lot since he was premier of Ontariowe. Probably wouldn't be helpful to throw it back in his face. :lol: