With the US booming and North Korea tamed, Britain should welcome Trump

[Hoid]

If the Falklands War wasn't enough to convince a person that military aggression is passe I don't know what is.

One of the stupidest wars of the 20th century - and that's saying something.

 

[petros]

"While fighter planes and submarines are pawns in China’s opening gambit in the contest for the South China Sea, Beijing hopes one day to at least check (if not checkmate) Washington with a growing armada of aircraft carriers, the modern dreadnoughts in this latter-day game of empires. After acquiring an unfinished Soviet Kuznetsov-class carrier from Ukraine in 1998, the naval dockyard at Dalian retrofitted the rusting hulk and launched it in 2012 as the Liaoning, China’s first aircraft carrier. That hull was already 30 years old, an age that would normally have assured such a warship a place in some scrap metal yard. Though not combat capable, it was a platform for training China’s first generation of naval aviators in landing speeding jets on heaving decks in high seas. In marked contrast to the 15 years needed to retrofit this first ship, the Dalian yards took just five years to construct, from the keel up, a much-improved second carrier capable of full combat operations.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/mi...cond-aircraft-carrier-is-its-most-crucial-yet

The narrow hulls and ski-jump prows that limit these first two carriers to just 24 “Flying Shark” fighter planes won’t hold for the country’s third carrier, now being built from indigenous designs in Shanghai.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/a15392390/chinas-next-aircraft-carrier-002

When launched next year, it will be able to carry on-board fuel reserves that will give it a longer cruising range and a complement of 40 aircraft, as well as electromagnetic systems for faster launches. Thanks to an accelerating tempo of training, technology, and construction, by 2030 China should have enough aircraft carriers to ensure that the South China Sea will become what the Pentagon has termed a “Chinese lake.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/24/world/asia/china-south-china-sea-radar.html

Such carriers are the vanguard of a sustained naval expansion that, by 2017, had already given China a modern navy of 320 ships, backed by land-based missiles, jet fighters, and a global system of surveillance satellites.
(PDF Document)
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/row/RL33153.pdf

Its current anti-ship ballistic missiles have a range of 2,500 miles and so could strike U.S. Navy vessels anywhere in the Western Pacific. Beijing has also made strides in mastering the volatile technology for hypersonic missiles with speeds of up to 5,000 miles per hour, making them impossible to stop.
https://www.popsci.com/china-hypersonic-double-wing-aircraft-i-plane

By building two new submarines every year, China has already assembled a fleet of 57, both diesel- and nuclear-powered, and is projected to reach 80 soon.
(PDF Document)
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/row/RL33153.pdf

Each of its four nuclear submarines carries 12 ballistic missiles that could reach anywhere in the western United States. In addition, Beijing has launched dozens of amphibious ships and coastal corvettes, giving it naval dominance in its own waters.
(PDF Document)
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/row/RL33153.pdf

Within just five years, according to the U.S. Office of Naval Intelligence, China “will complete its transition” from the coastal force of the 1990s to a modern navy capable of “sustained blue water operations” and “multiple missions around the world,” including full-spectrum warfare.
(PDF Document)
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/row/RL33153.pdf

In other words, China is forging a future capacity to control its “home” waters from the East China Sea to the South China Sea. In the process, it will become the first power in 70 years to challenge the U.S. Navy’s dominion over the Pacific basin."

All it takes is a ball of metal the size of a bowling ball from space making a 17,000 mph splash in the China Sea to wipe out the entire fleet.

The tsunami would wipe out all the ports from Hong Kong to Beijing.

Always always always make sure you have the high ground as your defense.

 

[darkbeaver]

If the Falklands War wasn't enough to convince a person that military aggression is passe I don't know what is.
One of the stupidest wars of the 20th century - and that's saying something.

military aggression is passe

The Military Industrial Complex is bent over in uncontrolable spasms of laughter. They have never sold into a stupid war.

 

[Kreskin]

We all remember.

It was hilarious.

It was the war for sheep. Literally.

 

[petros]

Shhhh! Mutton your lip!

 

[Curious Cdn]

"While fighter planes and submarines are pawns in China’s opening gambit in the contest for the South China Sea, Beijing hopes one day to at least check (if not checkmate) Washington with a growing armada of aircraft carriers, the modern dreadnoughts in this latter-day game of empires. After acquiring an unfinished Soviet Kuznetsov-class carrier from Ukraine in 1998, the naval dockyard at Dalian retrofitted the rusting hulk and launched it in 2012 as the Liaoning, China’s first aircraft carrier. That hull was already 30 years old, an age that would normally have assured such a warship a place in some scrap metal yard. Though not combat capable, it was a platform for training China’s first generation of naval aviators in landing speeding jets on heaving decks in high seas. In marked contrast to the 15 years needed to retrofit this first ship, the Dalian yards took just five years to construct, from the keel up, a much-improved second carrier capable of full combat operations.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/mi...cond-aircraft-carrier-is-its-most-crucial-yet

The narrow hulls and ski-jump prows that limit these first two carriers to just 24 “Flying Shark” fighter planes won’t hold for the country’s third carrier, now being built from indigenous designs in Shanghai.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/a15392390/chinas-next-aircraft-carrier-002

When launched next year, it will be able to carry on-board fuel reserves that will give it a longer cruising range and a complement of 40 aircraft, as well as electromagnetic systems for faster launches. Thanks to an accelerating tempo of training, technology, and construction, by 2030 China should have enough aircraft carriers to ensure that the South China Sea will become what the Pentagon has termed a “Chinese lake.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/24/world/asia/china-south-china-sea-radar.html

Such carriers are the vanguard of a sustained naval expansion that, by 2017, had already given China a modern navy of 320 ships, backed by land-based missiles, jet fighters, and a global system of surveillance satellites.
(PDF Document)
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/row/RL33153.pdf

Its current anti-ship ballistic missiles have a range of 2,500 miles and so could strike U.S. Navy vessels anywhere in the Western Pacific. Beijing has also made strides in mastering the volatile technology for hypersonic missiles with speeds of up to 5,000 miles per hour, making them impossible to stop.
https://www.popsci.com/china-hypersonic-double-wing-aircraft-i-plane

By building two new submarines every year, China has already assembled a fleet of 57, both diesel- and nuclear-powered, and is projected to reach 80 soon.
(PDF Document)
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/row/RL33153.pdf

Each of its four nuclear submarines carries 12 ballistic missiles that could reach anywhere in the western United States. In addition, Beijing has launched dozens of amphibious ships and coastal corvettes, giving it naval dominance in its own waters.
(PDF Document)
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/row/RL33153.pdf

Within just five years, according to the U.S. Office of Naval Intelligence, China “will complete its transition” from the coastal force of the 1990s to a modern navy capable of “sustained blue water operations” and “multiple missions around the world,” including full-spectrum warfare.
(PDF Document)
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/row/RL33153.pdf

In other words, China is forging a future capacity to control its “home” waters from the East China Sea to the South China Sea. In the process, it will become the first power in 70 years to challenge the U.S. Navy’s dominion over the Pacific basin."

China has never fought a sea battle in steel ships. She often lost them in wooden ships. They have no history, no doctrine to win one, whatsoever. The Royal Navy, the US Navy both have a wealth of experience gained over more than a century. Technology? China has yet to develop any new technology of any kind, whatsoever. They will never have any sort of lead in their weaponry as long as they rely on knock-offs and stolen designs. They can launch 200 more shiny, new ships but at this point in history, The People's Liberation Army Navy is a paper tiger suitable only for propaganda selfies.

 

[petros]

They can't build ships without our metal recycling or metallurgical coal.

 

[darkbeaver]

China has never fought a sea battle in steel ships. She often lost them in wooden ships. They have no history, no doctrine to win one, whatsoever. The Royal Navy, the US Navy both have a wealth of experience gained over more than a century. Technology? China has yet to develop any new technology of any kind, whatsoever. They will never have any sort of lead in their weaponry as long as they rely on knock-offs and stolen designs. They can launch 200 more shiny, new ships but at this point in history, The People's Liberation Army Navy is a paper tiger suitable only for propaganda selfies.

China has yet to develop any new technology of any kind, whatsoever.

Normally I would just bury you with links to the supposed nonexistant Chinese tech, but I,m convinced it,s less than useless to correct your misinformation.

22:13 07.03.2018
China’s Hypersonic Tech Poses Existential Risk to US Carrier Fleet

The US Navy’s nuclear-powered aircraft carriers, toting dozens of fighter jets around the world, will soon lose their ability to project power if the US cannot produce systems to defend against hypersonic weapons like the ones being developed by China and Russia, a senior Pentagon official said March 7.

The pentagoons know what you don,t.

 

[Curious Cdn]

Normally I would just bury you with links to the supposed nonexistant Chinese tech, but I,m convinced it,s less than useless to correct your misinformation.

They invented eye glass nine hundred years ago but ALL of the tech that they manufacture was invented elsewhere ... a lot of it from the Brits, more for the USA and a fair bit from the Japanese. Copy cats.

 

[Bar Sinister]

Don't overlook the fact that Britain already has its share of idiots. It does not need to add one more.

 

[Curious Cdn]

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[Cliffy]

 

[pgs]

If you post other people’s thoughts on the internet because you have none of your own , you are an idiot .

 

[Hoid]

Technology? China has yet to develop any new technology of any kind, whatsoever.

Since 2016 China has opened an average of one university a week.

China trails only India in total number of STEM graduates per year.

It is a typically western slant (no pun intended) to assume the Chinese are somehow of lesser intellect or ability because they have a different culture.


You might want to work on that.

 

[Curious Cdn]

Since 2016 China has opened an average of one university a week.

China trails only India in total number of STEM graduates per year.

It is a typically western slant (no pun intended) to assume the Chinese are somehow of lesser intellect or ability because they have a different culture.


You might want to work on that.

They still aren't producing anything new. The power of China is still cheap labour. It has been a slave culture throughout history.

 

[Bar Sinister]

They still aren't producing anything new. The power of China is still cheap labour. It has been a slave culture throughout history.

They don't have to. All China has to do is what South Korea and Japan have done so well, adapt other people's technology to suit their needs. In case you haven't noticed it is getting almost impossible to buy an electrical product that is not make in China.