U.S. revives Cold War-era planes to defend America

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With the unpredictable nature of North Korea's threat looming, the U.S. is ramping up its defences by putting Cold War-era planes back in the air. CBC News went to Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana to take a look at the planes being deployed against Kim Jong-un.

4 minute video of B52s and nuke capability at link.

Wpns load crews and air crews continue to train, and B52s are now flying regularly to the Korean Peninsula on patrol.

U.S. revives Cold War-era planes to defend America - CBC News | The National
 

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he B-52 is the longest serving front line Strategic Bomber the US has ever had. Some from the Davis Monthan line are now being refurbished and upgraded for future use.
 

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With the increasing tensions, the US is working proactively in case KJU does something stupid. Mind you, these patrols to the KP probably aren't the only operation going on with the B52s.

U.S. flies B-52s over South Korea
By Brad Lendon, CNN

The U.S. Air Force is breaking out some of its heaviest hardware to send a message to North Korea.

A Pentagon spokesman said Monday that B-52 bombers are making flights over South Korea as part of military exercises this month.

"Despite challenges with fiscal constraints, training opportunities remain important to ensure U.S. and ROK (Republic of Korea) forces are battle-ready and trained to employ air power to deter aggression, defend the Republic of Korea and defeat any attack against the alliance," Pentagon spokesman George Little said Monday in a meeting with reporters at the Pentagon.

Little said the eight-engine bombers first flew as part of the annual Foal Eagle training exercises on March 8 and were to fly again over South Korea on Tuesday.

"This mission highlights the extended deterrence and conventional capabilities of the B-52 Stratofortress," Little said Monday.

The bombers are flying out of Andersen Air Force Base on the Pacific island of Guam as part of what the U.S. Pacific Command calls a "continuous bomber presence" in the region. The round trip between Guam and the Korean Peninsula is about 4,000 miles.

"These ... missions are routine and reiterate the U.S. commitment to the security of our allies and partners," Little said.

The B-52 flights come amid spiking tensions between North Korea and the United States after the U.N. Security Council voted to impose tougher sanctions on North Korea following its latest nuclear test last month.

In a slew of angry rhetoric in response to the U.N. vote, North Korea has threatened to carry out a pre-emptive nuclear attack on the United States and South Korea and said it was nullifying the armistice agreement that stopped the Korean War in 1953.

https://www.cnn.com/2013/03/19/world/asia/korea-b-52s/index.html
 

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With the Kremlins new super secret weapons of destruction these planes are all but useless.

Kim Jong Putin says so

 

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Is that what your history teacher told you?

Should the US or Cdn air force need to release wpns in the event of an emergency, they will be dropped in a BC valley because the topography will help to contain the blast. They cannot drop them in the water because of the contamination.

Just saying. :lol:
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This is from mid January. This is part of the reason why KJU wants to meet with Trump.

Nuclear-capable B-52 bombers join B-2s, B-1Bs on Guam amid tensions with North Korea
by Jesse Johnson

The U.S. Air Force announced Tuesday that it has deployed six of its powerful B-52 strategic bombers to Guam amid tensions with nuclear-armed North Korea.

The six planes, accompanied by 300 airmen, join three of the air force’s B-2 stealth bombers that were also recently dispatched to the U.S. island territory, home to Andersen Air Force Base, a key American outpost in the Pacific.

The base is also currently hosting several B-1B heavy bombers. While both the B-52 and B-2 are capable of carrying nuclear payloads, the B-1B has been modified to carry conventional ordinance only.

The deployment, conducted “in support of U.S. Pacific Command’s (PACOM) Continuous Bomber Presence mission,” according to a U.S. Pacific Air Forces statement, is likely to raise eyebrows in North Korea, which last year threatened to fire missiles near Guam.

The B-52s were last deployed to the region in July 2016, during which they conducted a variety of joint and bilateral training missions with the U.S. Navy, U.S. Marine Corps, Air Self-Defense Force, South Korean Air Force and Royal Australian Air Force.

The move, widely seen as a show of American military muscle, was likely intended to reassure Asian allies nervous amid the North Korean nuclear crisis.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2...-guam-amid-tensions-north-korea/#.Wq1aUJch3IU
 

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With the unpredictable nature of North Korea's threat looming, the U.S. is ramping up its defences by putting Cold War-era planes back in the air. CBC News went to Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana to take a look at the planes being deployed against Kim Jong-un.

4 minute video of B52s and nuke capability at link.

Wpns load crews and air crews continue to train, and B52s are now flying regularly to the Korean Peninsula on patrol.

U.S. revives Cold War-era planes to defend America - CBC News | The National

Time for use to finally deploy our CF-105s!
 

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You'll get some disagreement about how cool it was to fly 104s. We never used the term 'widowmaker'. We called them 'flying lawn darts'.

They were more difficult to fly because of their small wings. They had a glide ratio of 1 to 14 because of the small wing surface. As a result, it made them more difficult to turn and they had a higher stall speed. These things made it difficult for pilots to maneuver, especially when you consider that they were originally built to be high speed, high altitude interceptors. Canada used them in two distinct roles - nuke delivery, and later, ground support a/c.

He is not a friend, but Kerry Cranfield, crashed two 104s, and lived to tell about it. The first accident occurred in the summer of 1981, when he flew through the Black Forest and tree parts lodged in his leading edge flaps. He couldn't extend the leading edge to land and lost maneuverability, so he had to punch out. The other time was a year later, but this second time was determined to be an on board fire.

I put a red circle at the corner of the flap. Pine tree parts were also jammed along much of the leading edge from the wing root to the tip tank.



I was in Baden when Cranfield flew through the Black Forest. He was in another sqn, but when he flew through the trees, routine orders said, paraphrased, the CO of 421 Sqn is pleased to announce the following promotion - Lt K. Cranfield to captain.

Needless to say, he had a hard time living that down.

There were lots of crashes with that plane from the1960s until the 1980s when it went out of service. Over 100 pranged, of the 240 we bought. Flying a 104 was the cream of the crop. The best pilots flew 104s. There was an unwritten hierarchy. CF104s at the top and a toss up for bottom spot. The Sea King or transport planes.
 
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You'll get some disagreement about how cool it was to fly 104s. We never used the term 'widowmaker'. We called them 'flying lawn darts'.

They were more difficult to fly because of their small wings. They had a glide ratio of 1 to 14 because of the small wing surface. As a result, it made them more difficult to turn and they had a higher stall speed. These things made it difficult for pilots to maneuver them, especially when you consider that they were originally built to be high speed, high altitude interceptors. Canada used them in two distinct roles - nuke delivery, and later ground support a/c.

He is not a friend, but Kerry Cranfield, crashed two 104s, and lived to tell about it. The first accident occurred in the summer of 1981, when he flew through the Black Forest and tree parts lodged in his leading edge flaps. He couldn't extend the leading edge to land and lost maneuverability, so he had to punch out. The other time was a year later, but this second time was determined to be an on board fire.

I put a red circle at the corner of the flap. Pine tree parts were also jammed along much of the leading edge from the wing root to the tip tank.



I was in Baden when Cranfield flew through the Black Forest. He was in another sqn, but when he flew through the trees, routine orders said, paraphrased, the CO of 421 Sqn is pleased to announce the following promotion - Lt K. Cranfield to captain.

Needless to say, he had a hard time living that down.

There were lots of crashes with that plane from the1960s until the 1980s when it went out of service. Over 100 pranged, of the 240 we bought. Flying a 104 was the cream of the crop. The best pilots flew 104s. There was an unwritten hierarchy. CF104s at the top and a toss up for bottom spot. The Sea King or transport planes.

Sea Kings.

Most of us would poop our pants, landing one on an old DDH in a Force Six.


He's being winched down to the Bear Trap, btw.
 

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When Chretien was PM, he refused to fly in one. When I was in, 16 hrs of maintenance was required for every hour of flight.
 

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When Chretien was PM, he refused to fly in one. When I was in, 16 hrs of maintenance was required for every hour of flight.

They are only just retiring them now and plenty of navies around the world still fly them. They are the "DC-3s" of hellicopters.
 

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We used practice bomb dispensers on the centreline of 104s for the pilots to practice dropping conventional wpns on target. They were called MN1A dispensers. It was basically an aluminum tube, about 10 feet long, that contained six small bombs. The bombs were ejected after opening the electric doors on the bottom.

The bombs contained smoke cartridges, so the range crew could spot where they hit.

A few 104 pilots who forgot to lower their landing gear got reminded of that fact, when the dispenser started scraping along the runway. You can land using it, but the plane tips to one side.



 
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We used practice bomb dispensers on the centreline of 104s for the pilots to practice dropping conventional wpns on target. They were called MN1A dispensers. It was basically an aluminum tube, about 10 feet long, that contained six small bombs. The bombs were ejected after opening the electric doors on the bottom.

The bombs contained smoke cartridges, so the range crew could spot where they hit.

A few 104 pilots who forgot to lower their landing gear got reminded of that fact, when the dispenser started scraping along the runway. You can land using it, but the plane tips to one side.




Did you earn the nickname "Sparky" if you did that?
 

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Pilots got their callsigns from something they did or were involved in early in their career. Usually in trng. That's not to say that a callsign couldn't change, but I think anyone who landed or attempted to land on their dispenser would have been called dumb f*ck. :lol: